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Posted: 4/21/2017 4:32:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2017 4:36:27 AM EDT
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Hahaha never gets old
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Posted: 4/21/2017 4:47:24 AM EDT
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Jokes on you, I got high on the 19th instead!
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Posted: 4/21/2017 4:49:39 AM EDT
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No thanks. I don't care what my employees do between 5:01PM and 7:59AM
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Posted: 4/21/2017 5:40:55 AM EDT
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Jokes on you, I got high on the 19th instead! 
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Posted: 4/21/2017 5:43:04 AM EDT
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Federally mandated random screenings at my job.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:31:21 AM EDT
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I think I won't be drug testing myself today, it's Friday. Time for a whiskey.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:32:50 AM EDT
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I got piss tested two weeks in a row after spring break
 it's just a pain in the ass
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:40:19 AM EDT
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Based on how many HS students I see smoking weed just off school property, if they ever ran a K9 through the school they would probably have to suspend half the students.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:05:41 AM EDT
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Shit at one construction I was at I got picked as the random guy every freaken week to the point where the lab was like nope tell them to send someone else. Not that I minded since I didn't do anything and got paid for it.
I'd show up at the shop, go through the morning meeting. Get called into the office and be waiting around forever before being told to go for testing. After the first few times I got smart. I'd stop and pick up breakfast sandwiches or coffee n doughnuts. Get to the lab and say hi to the women by name, get the tv controller from them. They would be "really backed up".... Probably because we were watching TV and having breakfast.... Get back to the shop just in time to grab the truck, run a load to the job site and dump before lunch. Then take my lunch lol Come to find out they weren't singling me out. They knew I was clean so they were using me. The lab and or the insurance company got smart and gave them shit. 2 or 3 other guys failed
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:14:56 AM EDT
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No thanks. I don't care what my employees do between 5:01PM and 7:59AM What a weird concept. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:15:27 AM EDT
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Based on how many HS students I see smoking weed just off school property, if they ever ran a K9 through the school they would probably have to suspend half the students. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:15:48 AM EDT
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You mean you hold your employees accountable only when working and gaining a pay check? What a weird concept. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:18:18 AM EDT
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I've been wanting drug testing for years.
The owner is like "So you and 4 other guys are going to do all of the work?". (about 40 employees) |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:19:18 AM EDT
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You mean you hold your employees accountable only when working and gaining a pay check? What a weird concept. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:26:42 AM EDT
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I've been wanting drug testing for years. The owner is like "So you and 4 other guys are going to do all of the work?". (about 40 employees) |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:11:01 AM EDT
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Jokes on you, I got high on the 19th instead! |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:14:25 AM EDT
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You willing to take a paycheck for that buddy? They're not cheap. If they are worth what they cost is another question entirely. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:16:24 AM EDT
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I got piss tested two weeks in a row after spring break it's just a pain in the assI think you're being manipulated and may have a sexual harassment claim.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:17:59 AM EDT
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Shit at one construction I was at I got picked as the random guy every freaken week to the point where the lab was like nope tell them to send someone else. Not that I minded since I didn't do anything and got paid for it. I'd show up at the shop, go through the morning meeting. Get called into the office and be waiting around forever before being told to go for testing. After the first few times I got smart. I'd stop and pick up breakfast sandwiches or coffee n doughnuts. Get to the lab and say hi to the women by name, get the tv controller from them. They would be "really backed up".... Probably because we were watching TV and having breakfast.... Get back to the shop just in time to grab the truck, run a load to the job site and dump before lunch. Then take my lunch lol Come to find out they weren't singling me out. They knew I was clean so they were using me. The lab and or the insurance company got smart and gave them shit. 2 or 3 other guys failed |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:28:14 AM EDT
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In the middle of a 100% test now. 2 people already just walked right out.
I know you white collar guys probably think this is BS but whenever someone gets hurt on the job they get tested. The last thing I want is an incident where someone hurts someone and then pisses hot so the more we can "weed out" (no pun intended, most people are failing for pain pills/adderall/meth lately anyway) ahead of time the better. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:29:54 AM EDT
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Jokes on you, I got high on the 19th instead! |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:38:05 AM EDT
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No thanks. I don't care what my employees do between 5:01PM and 7:59AM |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:42:56 AM EDT
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We are currently in the process of transitioning to the ownership of a new company next week, of which they will keep us on staff up to 90 days, at which point we will receive a healthy retention payment/severance. This is of course contingent on not being fired "for cause", but I am curious if they are going to randomly drug test people up here to try and weed out some people and save that money. Considering that current employer never drug tests, I'm sure it would pop at least a handful of people.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:50:58 AM EDT
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this job is the only one I ever had to pee in a cup. passed with flying colors....
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:51:49 AM EDT
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this job is the only one I ever had to pee in a cup. passed with flying colors.... |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:54:20 AM EDT
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No thanks. I don't care what my employees do between 5:01PM and 7:59AM |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:55:06 AM EDT
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I've been wanting drug testing for years. The owner is like "So you and 4 other guys are going to do all of the work?". (about 40 employees) Hell, I've even got a situation where one of the owners of my company had an employee get him some weed. Discussed the deal openly in our office and then did the transaction in the parking lot at the end of the work day. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:58:37 AM EDT
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In the middle of a 100% test now. 2 people already just walked right out. I know you white collar guys probably think this is BS but whenever someone gets hurt on the job they get tested. The last thing I want is an incident where someone hurts someone and then pisses hot so the more we can "weed out" (no pun intended, most people are failing for pain pills/adderall/meth lately anyway) ahead of time the better. If they piss hot after an incident, it's on them, not you, if you have an active drug-free workforce policy in place and you had no reason to believe they were coming to work high. What you just parroted is the same dumb shit employers have been squawking about since Nixon. Gotta get them dopers. You'll note that they only breathalyze people for the amount of ETOH in their system at that moment. The same should be true for other mind altering substances. If you can't prove that the employee was high on the job, it shouldn't matter that they were high at some point in the last few weeks. Now, if you, as an employer, just don't want to hire drug users .... fine. Just say that. Don't make up a bunch of fictitious arguments with no bearing in the realities of the day to day "blue collar" job sites. Also, if you, as an employee, don't want to work with dopers ... quit. Don't go crying about how they need to be fired because they prefer to take pills or smoke dope instead of getting loaded on their free time. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:38:33 AM EDT
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Back in the 70's some of us got word that the local cops had this fancy new drug sniffing dog and the principal wanted to let the dog run the lockers.
Well, several people of dubious interest went and found some ditch weed and wiped lightly said ditch across a very good number of lockers by the lower vents in the HS the night before. Let's just say that dog was a one and done in my school.
After the first several lockers and not finding anything they left. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:52:18 AM EDT
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I couldn't imagine working in an environment where you are tested for anything that you might do on your own time.
"you're fired because you tested positive for weed/gunpowder/powdered sugar"......really? 
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:54:12 AM EDT
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You mean you hold your employees accountable only when working and gaining a pay check? What a weird concept. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:55:00 AM EDT
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I think I won't be drug testing myself today, it's Friday. Time for a whiskey.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:56:32 AM EDT
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Back in the 70's some of us got word that the local cops had this fancy new drug sniffing dog and the principal wanted to let the dog run the lockers. Well, several people of dubious interest went and found some ditch weed and wiped lightly said ditch across a very good number of lockers by the lower vents in the HS the night before. Let's just say that dog was a one and done in my school.
After the first several lockers and not finding anything they left. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:00:46 AM EDT
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Pissing hot and being high on the job aren't the same thing. Your insurance, OSHA, any other regulatory agency only cares about your ability to implement and maintain a reasonable level of due diligence to ensure your employees aren't loaded at work. If they piss hot after an incident, it's on them, not you, if you have an active drug-free workforce policy in place and you had no reason to believe they were coming to work high. What you just parroted is the same dumb shit employers have been squawking about since Nixon. Gotta get them dopers. You'll note that they only breathalyze people for the amount of ETOH in their system at that moment. The same should be true for other mind altering substances. If you can't prove that the employee was high on the job, it shouldn't matter that they were high at some point in the last few weeks. Now, if you, as an employer, just don't want to hire drug users .... fine. Just say that. Don't make up a bunch of fictitious arguments with no bearing in the realities of the day to day "blue collar" job sites. Also, if you, as an employee, don't want to work with dopers ... quit. Don't go crying about how they need to be fired because they prefer to take pills or smoke dope instead of getting loaded on their free time. I think drugs should all be legal. However, when you sign on with us you sign on for the drug and contraband policy. It is a document signed by all that work here. Do not like it? Work somewhere else. Freedom is a two-way street. Our safety record directly impacts us (bonuses) so it is not just an insurance/OSHA deal. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:04:27 AM EDT
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So you are Ok with your employees getting stoned, shooting up, snorting or popping pills a half hour before going to your job site? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You mean you hold your employees accountable only when working and gaining a pay check? What a weird concept. It's about responsible use and personal time, vs. irresponsible use and personal time. Comes in all flavors. A.W.D. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:07:42 AM EDT
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So you are Ok with your employees getting stoned, shooting up, snorting or popping pills a half hour before going to your job site? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You mean you hold your employees accountable only when working and gaining a pay check? What a weird concept.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:08:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:10:20 AM EDT
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I have never been subjected to a drug test at any of the handful of jobs I have had in the past 4 decades. But then, I have never had a job where anyone else's safety might depend on me being sober.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:14:29 AM EDT
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Based on how many HS students I see smoking weed just off school property, if they ever ran a K9 through the school they would probably have to suspend half the students. 
Kharn |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:53:35 AM EDT
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Hell, some companies don't allow employee use of tobacco products, at all, ever.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:56:16 AM EDT
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You mean San Jacinto day?
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:59:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:16:45 PM EDT
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k9s here aren't allowed to go into the same room as students, they can only search lockers in unoccupied hallways.
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Based on how many HS students I see smoking weed just off school property, if they ever ran a K9 through the school they would probably have to suspend half the students.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:21:19 PM EDT
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My work only tests pre employment and if someone gets hurt on the job. If I had to guess I'd say half the people there use drugs.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:23:18 PM EDT
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Our HR director joked that if she had to drug screen the office, we'd lose 85% of our talent.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:33:51 PM EDT
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It's usually insurance companies the pressure employers to do these tests. That's why even if they legalize weed you still won't be able to use it and keep a good job at the same time. Several cases out of California and Colorado have already made their way into the federal courts. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:34:34 PM EDT
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If i gotta take a surprise piss test,your holding my dick for me while I do it.
What? You want my piss or not? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:36:21 PM EDT
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Jokes on you, I got high on the 19th instead! |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:36:28 PM EDT
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I think drugs should all be legal. However, when you sign on with us you sign on for the drug and contraband policy. It is a document signed by all that work here. Do not like it? Work somewhere else. Freedom is a two-way street. Our safety record directly impacts us (bonuses) so it is not just an insurance/OSHA deal. Specifically guns locked in cars, or do you just quietly ignore said policy like 95% of all gun owners do? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:38:21 PM EDT
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Hiring Hurdle: Finding Workers Who Can Pass a Drug Test
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/business/hiring-hurdle-finding-workers-who-can-pass-a-drug-test.html?_r=0 |
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