VA Dem Legislators are wasting no time. **ALERT: AWB INJUNCTION ORDER IN EFFECT on 7/21** (Page 54 of 56)
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Originally Posted By glklvr: None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. |
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Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. Everybody is a lawyer on the Internet. |
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Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? |
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Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? That would be a question for your lawyer. I don’t blame FFLs for treading carefully. Look at the wishy-washiness of PSA. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: That would be a question for your lawyer. I don’t blame FFLs for treading carefully. Look at the wishy-washiness of PSA. Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? That would be a question for your lawyer. I don’t blame FFLs for treading carefully. Look at the wishy-washiness of PSA. Thanks for confirming that you have no idea on how to back up your sky is falling assertions here and in the VAHTF. 
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Virginians can also buy long guns in adjacent states… Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Virginians can also buy long guns in adjacent states… Not if the gun you are buying is illegal in your home state. 18 USC 922(b)(3). (b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver— (3) any firearm to any person who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the licensee’s place of business is located, except that this paragraph (A) shall not apply to the sale or delivery of any rifle or shotgun to a resident of a State other than a State in which the licensee’s place of business is located if the transferee meets in person with the transferor to accomplish the transfer, and the sale, delivery, and receipt fully comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States (and any licensed manufacturer, importer or dealer shall be presumed, for purposes of this subparagraph, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to have had actual knowledge of the State laws and published ordinances of both States), and (B) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes; |
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Virginians can also buy long guns in adjacent states… Bingo. Importing would now be permitted due to the injunction and as it was legal when done, would still count as lawful if the laws are upheld. I'd stick to magazines, tho. |
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Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? Guess where a gun store gets to cite case law? Court. Guess how a gun store gets to court? By suing or being sued. Are you planning on contributing to their legal defense when the Commonwealth of Virginia goes after them with the sole purpose of bankrupting them and makes them incur tens of thousands of dollars of legal debt? Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Everybody is a lawyer on the Internet. Everybody's a tough guy on the Internet too. |
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Originally Posted By glklvr: Guess where a gun store gets to cite case law? Court. Guess how a gun store gets to court? By suing or being sued. Are you planning on contributing to their legal defense when the Commonwealth of Virginia goes after them with the sole purpose of bankrupting them and makes them incur tens of thousands of dollars of legal debt? Everybody's a tough guy on the Internet too. Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Originally Posted By glklvr: Originally Posted By bad2006z71: How many ffl's are going to risk transferring banned items? None of them, if they're smart. HB21 was signed into law too. I am so glad that you are limited to dispensing your legal knowledge from behind a gun store counter. It doesn’t change the fact that some FFLs are hesitant to transfer AFs, regardless of the correct interpretation of the law/injunction order. And remind me exactly what case law in VA exists to support those interpretations? Guess where a gun store gets to cite case law? Court. Guess how a gun store gets to court? By suing or being sued. Are you planning on contributing to their legal defense when the Commonwealth of Virginia goes after them with the sole purpose of bankrupting them and makes them incur tens of thousands of dollars of legal debt? Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Everybody is a lawyer on the Internet. Everybody's a tough guy on the Internet too. You like to pretend you know a lot. Gun counters do that to you I guess. |
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Originally Posted By Canoeguy: Again…Liberty Sport and Pawn in Pennington Gap will be selling on the 21st. I hope every other store does as well, then it would be too big for a witch hunt. They are true allies. I need to go and spend money with them this year |
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VCDL just sent an email out. VA NICS background checks were crazy for June. https://www.guns.com/news/2026/07/06/nics-over-11-million-guns-sold-in-june-nfa-saw-177-percent-jump "Virginia saw a 241 percent increase over the same month last year, with 123,699 background checks for the purchase of a firearm," Mark Oliva, public affairs officer with the NSSF, told Guns.com. "Likewise, Rhode Island had a 201 percent increase over June 2025 with 7,815 background checks completed." Note that is only the number of NICS checks, several guns can be purchased on a single NICS check. I purchased 5 guns on one NICS check and I did at least 3 or 4 NICS checks in June alone. ETA: Total US NICS checks was over 1.1M (the URL above says 11 million, that's because they can't put a decimal/period in a URL). The adjusted figure for June 2026 stands at 1,123,006, a downright decent 11.7 percent increase compared to the June 2025 NSSF-adjusted NICS figure of 1,004,986. |
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Originally Posted By AmateurLuthier: Got my first post-1 July Form 1 approval. Looks like a condition at the end of the form is how they are going to handle Virginia now. https://imageshack.com/i/poxEdGhlj Interesting. When did you submit the form 1? |
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Originally Posted By AmateurLuthier: Got my first post-1 July Form 1 approval. Looks like a condition at the end of the form is how they are going to handle Virginia now. https://imageshack.com/i/poxEdGhlj But if the “assault weapon” was originally configured before the VA AWB went into effect, is it a violation if the grandfathered firearm is merely shortened? |
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Originally Posted By Lexington: But if the “assault weapon” was originally configured before the VA AWB went into effect, is it a violation if the grandfathered firearm is merely shortened? Maybe filing before 1 July was proof that the "assault weapon" was in a banned configuration already, was grandfathered, and a shorter barrel doesn't change its status where Virginia law is concerned? Would be interesting to see someone file a Form 1 now. Might take a while though - I'd bet I am one of the last "Virginia priority" approvals since 1 July has passed. |
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Originally Posted By AmateurLuthier: Maybe filing before 1 July was proof that the "assault weapon" was in a banned configuration already, was grandfathered, and a shorter barrel doesn't change its status where Virginia law is concerned? Would be interesting to see someone file a Form 1 now. Might take a while though - I'd bet I am one of the last "Virginia priority" approvals since 1 July has passed. I put one in on 7/1 (existing 16" AR) to test the outcome. Included a picture of the full gun in "AW" configuration. I will post the results whenever it comes through. |
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Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Who are we voting for in the Republican primary? Early vote ends 01 Aug. Vote is on 04 Aug. State or local? Will the Republicans actually run a candidate in your district? |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: State or local? Will the Republicans actually run a candidate in your district? That's one of the things that annoys me about VA's Republican Party. So many uncontested elections. I get that they need to use limited resources wisely, but I'm running out of creative things to write-in. |
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ: That's one of the things that annoys me about VA's Republican Party. So many uncontested elections. I get that they need to use limited resources wisely, but I'm running out of creative things to write-in. Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Originally Posted By homeyclaus: State or local? Will the Republicans actually run a candidate in your district? That's one of the things that annoys me about VA's Republican Party. So many uncontested elections. I get that they need to use limited resources wisely, but I'm running out of creative things to write-in. At this point I'd take an undocumented Canada Goose over many of the R's and all D's. |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: State or local? Will the Republicans actually run a candidate in your district? Originally Posted By homeyclaus: Originally Posted By apexcrusade: Who are we voting for in the Republican primary? Early vote ends 01 Aug. Vote is on 04 Aug. State or local? Will the Republicans actually run a candidate in your district? It's for Mark Warner's seat. That horsefaced scum. All I know is I'm not voting for a woman. If that sounds bad, too bad. Campaign Finance Candidate Cash Raised Farington, Kim $16,512 $145,649 Mizusawa, Bert K $51,419 $341,218 Williams, David Earl $31,147 $93,007 Bert is ret Army Gen Williams is Reserves Col, Marines. |
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Guess he doesn't like his chances with SCOVA. Shortest AWB on record? I could live with that. |
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Guess he doesn't like his chances with SCOVA. Shortest AWB on record? I could live with that. Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Guess he doesn't like his chances with SCOVA. Shortest AWB on record? I could live with that. At this moment, 2 bullet jones doesn't have a good chance with SCOVA or SCOTUS (accepting an AWB). His only hope was to wait out SCOVA until next year when they can switch it to full commie or let the 4th Circus rule and then hope/expect SCOTUS to keep punting on AWB cases. The writing is on the wall, even a narrow ruling by Roberts will be AR-15's and modern semi auto rifles can't be banned. Va will go full tard with fees and registration of so called AW's. Make no mistake. Va citizens are still going to lose gun rights every year from now on. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: At this moment, 2 bullet jones doesn't have a good chance with SCOVA or SCOTUS (accepting an AWB). His only hope was to wait out SCOVA until next year when they can switch it to full commie or let the 4th Circus rule and then hope/expect SCOTUS to keep punting on AWB cases. The writing is on the wall, even a narrow ruling by Roberts will be AR-15's and modern semi auto rifles can't be banned. Va will go full tard with fees and registration of so called AW's. Make no mistake. Va citizens are still going to lose gun rights every year from now on. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Guess he doesn't like his chances with SCOVA. Shortest AWB on record? I could live with that. At this moment, 2 bullet jones doesn't have a good chance with SCOVA or SCOTUS (accepting an AWB). His only hope was to wait out SCOVA until next year when they can switch it to full commie or let the 4th Circus rule and then hope/expect SCOTUS to keep punting on AWB cases. The writing is on the wall, even a narrow ruling by Roberts will be AR-15's and modern semi auto rifles can't be banned. Va will go full tard with fees and registration of so called AW's. Make no mistake. Va citizens are still going to lose gun rights every year from now on. Yep. Registration, licensing, purchase permits, training, storage requirements, et al. |
I'm kind of wondering how many people are now banging their head against the wall after panic buying everything just before the Assault Weapon Ban went into effect. I know, it's not funny. (It's kind of funny.)    I wonder what the gun stores think of all this. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: I'm kind of wondering how many people are now banging their head against the wall after panic buying everything just before the Assault Weapon Ban went into effect. I know, it's not funny. (It's kind of funny.) I wonder what the gun stores think of all this. The guns are sold. And like toilet paper in 2020, bringing them back is either not an option or pennies on the dollar, especially from the fuckers that could not be bothered to vote, or voted for 2 bullet jones and company. Gun stores love a good cycle of panic buys, so a couple of cycles of a looming ban and a roll back is the stuff their dreams are made of. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Yep. Registration, licensing, purchase permits, training, storage requirements, et al. They can polish my knob with their lips over that shit. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: At this moment, 2 bullet jones doesn't have a good chance with SCOVA or SCOTUS (accepting an AWB). His only hope was to wait out SCOVA until next year when they can switch it to full commie or let the 4th Circus rule and then hope/expect SCOTUS to keep punting on AWB cases. The writing is on the wall, even a narrow ruling by Roberts will be AR-15's and modern semi auto rifles can't be banned. Va will go full tard with fees and registration of so called AW's. Make no mistake. Va citizens are still going to lose gun rights every year from now on. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Guess he doesn't like his chances with SCOVA. Shortest AWB on record? I could live with that. At this moment, 2 bullet jones doesn't have a good chance with SCOVA or SCOTUS (accepting an AWB). His only hope was to wait out SCOVA until next year when they can switch it to full commie or let the 4th Circus rule and then hope/expect SCOTUS to keep punting on AWB cases. The writing is on the wall, even a narrow ruling by Roberts will be AR-15's and modern semi auto rifles can't be banned. Va will go full tard with fees and registration of so called AW's. Make no mistake. Va citizens are still going to lose gun rights every year from now on. I’m praying for a broad ruling that kicks every bit of unconstitutional gun control square in the nads. For the record, IMO, the only constitutional restriction on what I can buy is my bank account |
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Originally Posted By alphajaguars: I’m praying for a broad ruling that kicks every bit of unconstitutional gun control square in the nads. For the record, IMO, the only constitutional restriction on what I can buy is my bank account Last I checked your bank account is not referenced in the US Constitution. However. A simply friendly reminder. All gun laws are infringements. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: I'm kind of wondering how many people are now banging their head against the wall after panic buying everything just before the Assault Weapon Ban went into effect. I know, it's not funny. (It's kind of funny.) I wonder what the gun stores think of all this. I regret nothing. I regret the credit card balances but not the guns. I'd rather have them now, then hope for the best outcome later. |
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Originally Posted By Lexington: They can polish my knob with their lips over that shit. You don't know where their lips have been. You enjoy that, but for me it's a hard pass, they don't have a vax for that. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: I regret nothing. I regret the credit card balances but not the guns. I'd rather have them now, then hope for the best outcome later. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By stone-age: I'm kind of wondering how many people are now banging their head against the wall after panic buying everything just before the Assault Weapon Ban went into effect. I know, it's not funny. (It's kind of funny.) I wonder what the gun stores think of all this. I regret nothing. I regret the credit card balances but not the guns. I'd rather have them now, then hope for the best outcome later. Same. I topped off my collection with several guns that were on my bucket list. I figured if I bet on the AWB not going through I'd never get them, but also figured if I bought them thr AWB would be blocked. No regrets. |
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I know it is not VA. But this is fucking huge!!!! BREAKING: New Jersey's Assault Weapon Ban Just Got Struck Down |
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Originally Posted By mjohn3006: I know it is not VA. But this is fucking huge!!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAG_unoDGGYI'd find it at least somewhat amusing if NJ became freer than VA.  
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: Last I checked your bank account is not referenced in the US Constitution. However. A simply friendly reminder. All gun laws are infringements. Originally Posted By NachoDip: Originally Posted By alphajaguars: I’m praying for a broad ruling that kicks every bit of unconstitutional gun control square in the nads. For the record, IMO, the only constitutional restriction on what I can buy is my bank account Last I checked your bank account is not referenced in the US Constitution. However. A simply friendly reminder. All gun laws are infringements. I was making a joke that I can buy whatever I can afford 
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