VA Dem Legislators are wasting no time. **ALERT: AWB INJUNCTION ORDER IN EFFECT on 7/21** (Page 53 of 56)
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Originally Posted By stone-age: The gun company is not the ones who elected a government who they already knew is insanely hostile toward the second amendment, guns, and gun manufacturers. The companies just want to make guns and sell guns. If a state is friendly to gun sales they will provide all the guns they can manage. Palmetto said they formed that company for the specific reason to make the AR-15 so prolific in the US that it could not be banned as per the US constitution. That's what THEY did for the second amendment in the US. And I have helped PSA with that goal several times over! However, much like “move to a free state,” at some point these businesses will only be selling to the government. Unless PSA truly has changed the course of human history. |
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Originally Posted By Vaquero: And I have helped PSA with that goal several times over! However, much like “move to a free state,” at some point these businesses will only be selling to the government. Unless PSA truly has changed the course of human history. Originally Posted By Vaquero: Originally Posted By stone-age: The gun company is not the ones who elected a government who they already knew is insanely hostile toward the second amendment, guns, and gun manufacturers. The companies just want to make guns and sell guns. If a state is friendly to gun sales they will provide all the guns they can manage. Palmetto said they formed that company for the specific reason to make the AR-15 so prolific in the US that it could not be banned as per the US constitution. That's what THEY did for the second amendment in the US. And I have helped PSA with that goal several times over! However, much like “move to a free state,” at some point these businesses will only be selling to the government. Unless PSA truly has changed the course of human history. PSA suspended shipping affected items to VA until further notice. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: PSA suspended shipping affected items to VA until further notice. Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By Vaquero: Originally Posted By stone-age: The gun company is not the ones who elected a government who they already knew is insanely hostile toward the second amendment, guns, and gun manufacturers. The companies just want to make guns and sell guns. If a state is friendly to gun sales they will provide all the guns they can manage. Palmetto said they formed that company for the specific reason to make the AR-15 so prolific in the US that it could not be banned as per the US constitution. That's what THEY did for the second amendment in the US. And I have helped PSA with that goal several times over! However, much like “move to a free state,” at some point these businesses will only be selling to the government. Unless PSA truly has changed the course of human history. PSA suspended shipping affected items to VA until further notice. Magpul is done. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: https://i.redd.it/r7irtt0tjjah1.jpeg 
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I wasn't put in jail for what I did. I was put in it for what I think... They won by making a DC jury scared that people like YOU AND I exist outside of their liberal bubble.
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I think there are two different shipping discussions. A. Parts, such as uppers, BCG’s, barrels, ten round mags etc etc, that are not banned by the AWB, but could be used to make a prohibited item. B. Guns and mags that are now banned but maybe sorta okay in some counties under the injunctions. A. are legal items that could bring a potential lawsuit. Many companies have just added a box to check so you can certify you are using the parts legally. Others have stopped shipping anything. We knew this was coming, but I’m still disappointed. B. are in a murky legal area. Unless there’s a stronger injunction, I would be surprised at anyone selling “banned” items. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Was VA the last straw for SCOTUS? Did Justice Thomas (a VA resident, supposedly) decide the left had FA too long with regard to the 2A, and now when it is personal, he decided it was time to grant cert? I doubt he is the only SCOTUS AR owner. VA may have lit a fire under their assess. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Was VA the last straw for SCOTUS? Did Justice Thomas (a VA resident, supposedly) decide the left had FA too long with regard to the 2A, and now when it is personal, he decided it was time to grant cert? He is def a VA resident. I saw him at my LGS picking up a pistol transfer. I did a double take and then asked the guy at the counter, "Holy shit. Is that Justice Thomas?" He just smiled and said, Yup. A store employee asked for a photo with him but his security said no. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
Cool. The 4th circuit will rule against us. Guess we have to wait for Viramontes to get decided. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
Glad we have a friendly administration in place. A fkh DOJ would be defending, not opposing, the VA commies. We dodged a huge bullet in many ways. |
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Cool. The 4th circuit will rule against us. Guess we have to wait for Viramontes to get decided. Originally Posted By bad2006z71: Originally Posted By mcantu:
Cool. The 4th circuit will rule against us. Guess we have to wait for Viramontes to get decided. I'll be surprised if this case is disposed of by CA4 prior to a ruling in Viramontes. |
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Just read through the filing. They are suing under the federal "depravation of rights under color of governmental authority" statute |
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Originally Posted By mcantu: Just read through the filing. They are suing under the federal "depravation of rights under color of governmental authority" statute Does that approach suggest that politicians pushing these laws can be held legally accountable? |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Was VA the last straw for SCOTUS? Did Justice Thomas (a VA resident, supposedly) decide the left had FA too long with regard to the 2A, and now when it is personal, he decided it was time to grant cert? Maybe the election of Jay Jones and Plattner's candidacy affirmed our founders fears about a tyrannical government. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Was VA the last straw for SCOTUS? Did Justice Thomas (a VA resident, supposedly) decide the left had FA too long with regard to the 2A, and now when it is personal, he decided it was time to grant cert? Are you familiar with the process of granting cert? Do you believe that Thomas can do it by himself? Do you have examples of Thomas voting against cert for an AWB case? |
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Originally Posted By Lawless_Flogic: Are you familiar with the process of granting cert? Do you believe that Thomas can do it by himself? Do you have examples of Thomas voting against cert for an AWB case? I can guarantee Thomas pushed hard to get the four votes to grant cert. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: Our attorney general must be losing his mind about now. He's a total lightweight. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Any VA FFLs still transferring AFs or selling mags? https://preview.redd.it/check-it-out-v0-mjx5q8v93pah1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2025cd580887afe0994310910f96331357630847 https://preview.redd.it/check-it-out-v0-dl0on9v93pah1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f0f458a713aae9ce875d776c021cd5c216204081 Interesting. I'm going to swing by a LGS later. |
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Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Has an order been entered on the Washington County injunction yet? I've seen the letter opinion, but the actual order is the key, as its terms are what actually control. I haven’t seen the order, and I’m subscribed to most everything VA 2A… Judge’s ruling: https://www.virginiascope.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Santolla-opinion-ltr.pdf |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: I haven’t seen the order, and I’m subscribed to most everything VA 2A… Judge’s ruling: https://www.virginiascope.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Santolla-opinion-ltr.pdf Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Has an order been entered on the Washington County injunction yet? I've seen the letter opinion, but the actual order is the key, as its terms are what actually control. I haven’t seen the order, and I’m subscribed to most everything VA 2A… Judge’s ruling: https://www.virginiascope.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Santolla-opinion-ltr.pdf The injunction is not in effect until the order is signed. It is pretty typical for the lawyers to take a few days (or weeks) to negotiate on the actual order after the court rules, and sometimes you have to go back for a second hearing to argue about the order. It is bugging me that people keep claiming the injunction has been entered when it has not. |
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Originally Posted By Lexington: He's a total lightweight. Originally Posted By Lexington: Originally Posted By stone-age: Our attorney general must be losing his mind about now. He's a total lightweight. He looks like shit covered Q-tip |
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Originally Posted By HillaryClinton: Interesting. I'm going to swing by a LGS later. Originally Posted By HillaryClinton: Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Any VA FFLs still transferring AFs or selling mags? https://preview.redd.it/check-it-out-v0-mjx5q8v93pah1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2025cd580887afe0994310910f96331357630847 https://preview.redd.it/check-it-out-v0-dl0on9v93pah1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f0f458a713aae9ce875d776c021cd5c216204081 Interesting. I'm going to swing by a LGS later. I went to one LGS earlier and all of their "banned" guns have been removed from the cases. |
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Now we know why they delayed the AF OC law until ‘27. https://archive.ph/er8CB Virginia’s new ban on the open carry of assault weapons in public places has been delayed for a year because it would have created a serious unintended consequence: legalizing the open carry of guns equipped with large capacity detachable magazines where it is now prohibited. Under the current law, it is illegal in eight cities and five counties, including Richmond and Henrico, to openly carry in public a loaded semiautomatic rifle or pistol that is equipped with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition, or a shotgun that can hold more than seven rounds. The new open carry law, passed by the General Assembly this year, expands the ban to cover statewide and refers to another new law for its definition of an assault weapon. But using that definition restricts the prohibition on open carry to “fixed” magazine weapons, therefore legalizing the open carry of guns equipped with large-capacity detachable magazines. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Now we know why they delayed the AF OC law until ‘27. https://archive.ph/er8CB Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Now we know why they delayed the AF OC law until ‘27. https://archive.ph/er8CB Virginia’s new ban on the open carry of assault weapons in public places has been delayed for a year because it would have created a serious unintended consequence: legalizing the open carry of guns equipped with large capacity detachable magazines where it is now prohibited. Under the current law, it is illegal in eight cities and five counties, including Richmond and Henrico, to openly carry in public a loaded semiautomatic rifle or pistol that is equipped with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition, or a shotgun that can hold more than seven rounds. The new open carry law, passed by the General Assembly this year, expands the ban to cover statewide and refers to another new law for its definition of an assault weapon. But using that definition restricts the prohibition on open carry to “fixed” magazine weapons, therefore legalizing the open carry of guns equipped with large-capacity detachable magazines. Jay "Two Bullets" Jones and his office are amateurs. Not that I like the laws, but they couldn't find the circular logic in the new laws as they were being written. That's what happens when you throw spaghetti at the walls. Perhaps the good news is that there are a lot of holes for us to attack in court, with the overall constitutional violations being the most obvious. |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Now we know why they delayed the AF OC law until ‘27. https://archive.ph/er8CB This is not correct. The law they postponed just incorporates the definition of "assault firearm" from the hardware ban. |
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A three-judge panel declined to consolidate the lawsuits against the assault weapons ban in Virginia. "Separate cases have already presented arguments and declarations on the issue of whether a preliminary injunction should be granted in the various jurisdictions where the cases are filed," the ruling from the panel states. "Further the courts have ruled on those preliminary injunctions in three of the four cases. It is too late to properly prevent inconsistent rulings." https://www.virginiascope.com/three-judge-panel-declines-to-consolidate-gun-lawsuits/ |
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Injunction directive. “Accordingly, the Court now finds that to afford complete relief to the Plaintiffs herein, the injunction imposed by the Court's prior ruling shall be extended to statewide application and enjoin all law enforcement agencies of the Commonwealth and its localities, to include law enforcement officers as defined in §9.1-101 of the Code of Virginia and Commonwealth Attorneys from enforcement of the provisions of the Bans within all localities and jurisdictions of the Commonwealth on the same terms and conditions as otherwise set forth in the Court's prior letter opinion.”  
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6755/Screenshot_2026-07-08_at_10_38_48%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%AFAM-3791603.png This has been such a weird time. Grateful to Palmetto for sticking with us while our govt jerks everybody around. |
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Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: That is not the injunction order. Only the decision about who it will apply to. Thank you. I've been feeling like a broken record. Circuit courts speak only through their written orders, and a letter opinion is not an order. An order will invariably say "Order" at the top and be endorsed by counsel with either "I ask for this," "seen and agreed," or "seen and objected to for [reasons]." The entry of the order also starts the clock for the Commonwealth to appeal. |
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Originally Posted By bulldog1967: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6755/Screenshot_2026-07-08_at_10_38_48%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%AFAM-3791603.png My go-to LGS is refusing to do any transfers of assault firearms, even with the injunction in place. I can order from PSA but my FFL won’t do the transfer… |
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Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: My go-to LGS is refusing to do any transfers of assault firearms, even with the injunction in place. I can order from PSA but my FFL won’t do the transfer… Originally Posted By wherewildthingsare: Originally Posted By bulldog1967: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6755/Screenshot_2026-07-08_at_10_38_48%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%AFAM-3791603.png My go-to LGS is refusing to do any transfers of assault firearms, even with the injunction in place. I can order from PSA but my FFL won’t do the transfer… Fuck that guy. Find another. |
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