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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:11:13 PM EDT
I haven't gone shooting for a while due to long hours at work, and more importantly ammo cost and availability
 . But today I said fuck it and broke into my stash and had some fun. This is a 1944 Izhevsk PU Sniper, the scope is from 1943. The rifle was imported by SAMCO as one of the "scopeless snipers", so the scope doesn't match the rifle and it's a shooter rather than a collector piece...but damn does it shoot. Interesting bit of history, SAMCO got these rifles out of Yugoslavia and they were part of the weapons Stalin sent to arm Josip Tito and his partisans towards the end of WWII.  I was shooting at 200yds using some Russian 182gr surplus. This rifle loves the heavy stuff and doesn't do so great with lighter 147gr. This was the best group of the day, just a hair under 2". Not too shabby for a 70 year old rifle and scope shooting 50 year old ammo. I want to try it out at long range to see what it can really do.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:14:14 PM EDT
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Nice.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:15:04 PM EDT
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Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun
Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:15:23 PM EDT
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This is a joke. Everyone on arfcom knows that mosins are cheap truck guns with minute of barn door accuracy. One must spend at least two months pay for a Wallstreet broker to get a 1moa rifle.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:15:57 PM EDT
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Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:17:29 PM EDT
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I want one of those pretty bad..
- Clint |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg In before a northern California police officer. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:20:35 PM EDT
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I've got one that I bought from Navy Arms in the 90's. Despite it nice condition, about 2" for three shots is the best I can get out of it at 100 yards. Five shots opens the group up to about double.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:21:07 PM EDT
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Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg Beautiful pic. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:22:35 PM EDT
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I got a 1944 scope on a 1943 sniper. Wanna trade?
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:22:40 PM EDT
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1 MOA with a Mosin sniper means you know what you're doing behind a rifle; my compliments.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:24:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg It's drying up fast, especially Heavy Ball because Russia stopped production of it a while ago. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 MOA with a Mosin sniper means you know what you're doing behind a rifle; my compliments. I competed in smallbore for several years so I've gotten the fundamentals of rifle shooting down pretty well. But still, this rifle makes it very easy to look good  |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:35:21 PM EDT
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Very nice mosin and excellent shooting
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:35:57 PM EDT
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That's great for an old bolt gun like that.
I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle. Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:38:04 PM EDT
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I also own one and I must admit the accuracy is unbelievable. I collect WW II Rifles and my Enfield is also very accurate.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:38:49 PM EDT
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Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg 
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:39:13 PM EDT
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Very nice!
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:43:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's great for an old bolt gun like that. I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle. Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL. Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:44:05 PM EDT
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That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:45:48 PM EDT
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Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's great for an old bolt gun like that.
I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle. Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL. Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper. I think I remember that article. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp? http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1378696426414.jpg |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:51:52 PM EDT
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I want one of those pretty bad.. - Clint Ditto. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:55:11 PM EDT
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This is a joke. Everyone on arfcom knows that mosins are cheap truck guns with minute of barn door accuracy. One must spend at least two months pay for a Wallstreet broker to get a 1moa rifle. Yup. This is unpossible!!!!!!
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Posted: 9/8/2013 7:57:59 PM EDT
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That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal. I'm sure you mean 15". |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:00:35 PM EDT
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I'm sure you mean 15". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal. I'm sure you mean 15". Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:07:20 PM EDT
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Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal. I'm sure you mean 15". Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off. Ah, I missed that. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:14:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one of those pretty bad.. - Clint What I really want is a PE Sniper   |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:19:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:25:55 PM EDT
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That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal. He did say that was the best group of the day. Last summer I shot a shit load of ten round groups with a PSL and spam-can light ball. The best group was just over 1 MOA... ten shots, mostly in one ragged hole. However, there were also ten-shot groups as big as 7.5 MOA with no called fliers. "Best group of the day" is not the same as consistent accuracy, and I'm not convinced that there is any milsurp 54R that is consistently that good in any gun. |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:32:30 PM EDT
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Are the triggers better in the sniper guns? |
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Posted: 9/8/2013 8:46:59 PM EDT
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Love those mosin PU snipers. Good job OP.
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Are the triggers better in the sniper guns? I have a Tula ex-sniper I got from Aztec years ago. $99 shipped. These were sniper rifles that were rearsenaled and returned to the standard 91/30 configuration. You can spot an ex-sniper pretty easy. You can look inside the action and see where the holes for the mount were filled in. The trigger that came with it sucked. I took the triggers out of all my Mosins and played mix and match until I came up with a decent trigger. I can say that it's the most accurate open sighted gun I own. I don't have any pics of it so don't ask |
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