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Posted: 9/8/2013 6:11:13 PM EST
I haven't gone shooting for a while due to long hours at work, and more importantly ammo cost and availability . But today I said fuck it and broke into my stash and had some fun.

This is a 1944 Izhevsk PU Sniper, the scope is from 1943. The rifle was imported by SAMCO as one of the "scopeless snipers", so the scope doesn't match the rifle and it's a shooter rather than a collector piece...but damn does it shoot. Interesting bit of history, SAMCO got these rifles out of Yugoslavia and they were part of the weapons Stalin sent to arm Josip Tito and his partisans towards the end of WWII.



I was shooting at 200yds using some Russian 182gr surplus. This rifle loves the heavy stuff and doesn't do so great with lighter 147gr. This was the best group of the day, just a hair under 2". Not too shabby for a 70 year old rifle and scope shooting 50 year old ammo. I want to try it out at long range to see what it can really do.



Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:14:14 PM EST
Nice.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:15:04 PM EST
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:15:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:17:29 PM EST
I want one of those pretty bad..

- Clint
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:19:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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In before a northern California police officer.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:20:35 PM EST
I've got one that I bought from Navy Arms in the 90's. Despite it nice condition, about 2" for three shots is the best I can get out of it at 100 yards. Five shots opens the group up to about double.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:21:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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Beautiful pic.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:22:35 PM EST
I got a 1944 scope on a 1943 sniper. Wanna trade?
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:22:40 PM EST
1 MOA with a Mosin sniper means you know what you're doing behind a rifle; my compliments.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:24:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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It's drying up fast, especially Heavy Ball because Russia stopped production of it a while ago.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:34:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit:
1 MOA with a Mosin sniper means you know what you're doing behind a rifle; my compliments.
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I competed in smallbore for several years so I've gotten the fundamentals of rifle shooting down pretty well. But still, this rifle makes it very easy to look good
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:35:21 PM EST
Very nice mosin and excellent shooting
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:35:57 PM EST
That's great for an old bolt gun like that.

I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle.

Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:38:04 PM EST
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I also own one and I must admit the accuracy is unbelievable. I collect WW II Rifles and my Enfield is also very accurate.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:38:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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Originally Posted By B2k4E:
That's great for an old bolt gun like that.

I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle.

Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL.
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Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:44:05 PM EST
That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.
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Originally Posted By Wolverine1776:

Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper.
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Originally Posted By Wolverine1776:
Originally Posted By B2k4E:
That's great for an old bolt gun like that.

I'd have to say that I'm jealous. I want that, and my old Romy PSL back. Wish I'd never sold that rifle.

Unrealistically speaking though, I'd rather have an SVD or a Tigr rifle instead of the PSL.

Guns Magazine did an article a while back about WWII Sniper Rifles, shooting them out to 1000yds. The Mosin PU sniper crushed the 1903A4, No.1T, and K98k Sniper.


I think I remember that article.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:48:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By Quintessential_13er:
Awesome job man, my PU Mosin narrowly edges out the Enfield as my favorite bolt gun

Ammo's still cheap though. Do you not shoot milsurp?

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I'll raise you a
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:51:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
I want one of those pretty bad..

- Clint
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Ditto.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:55:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shotar:
This is a joke. Everyone on arfcom knows that mosins are cheap truck guns with minute of barn door accuracy. One must spend at least two months pay for a Wallstreet broker to get a 1moa rifle.
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Yup. This is unpossible!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 6:57:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IDK:
That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.
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I'm sure you mean 15".
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:00:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:

I'm sure you mean 15".
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Originally Posted By IDK:
That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.

I'm sure you mean 15".


Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off.
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Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off.
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Originally Posted By IDK:
That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.

I'm sure you mean 15".


Nope. He said that group was at 200 yards. Unless my basic math is off.

Ah, I missed that.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:14:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:
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What I really want is a PE Sniper


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Originally Posted By IDK:
That is an outstanding group for any rifle and ammo. I thought group size was measured center to center on the farthest holes ( or outside to outside and subract the the caliber). In either case that group is closer to an inch and a half. Pretty decent shooting. That's 7 and 1/2 inches at a thousand yards if all other things are equal.
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He did say that was the best group of the day.

Last summer I shot a shit load of ten round groups with a PSL and spam-can light ball.

The best group was just over 1 MOA... ten shots, mostly in one ragged hole.

However, there were also ten-shot groups as big as 7.5 MOA with no called fliers.

"Best group of the day" is not the same as consistent accuracy, and I'm not convinced that there is any milsurp 54R that is consistently that good in any gun.
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:32:30 PM EST

Are the triggers better in the sniper guns?
Link Posted: 9/8/2013 7:46:59 PM EST
Love those mosin PU snipers. Good job OP.

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Are the triggers better in the sniper guns?
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I have a Tula ex-sniper I got from Aztec years ago. $99 shipped. These were sniper rifles that were rearsenaled and returned to the standard 91/30 configuration. You can spot an ex-sniper pretty easy. You can look inside the action and see where the holes for the mount were filled in.

The trigger that came with it sucked. I took the triggers out of all my Mosins and played mix and match until I came up with a decent trigger. I can say that it's the most accurate open sighted gun I own.

I don't have any pics of it so don't ask
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