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Posted: 9/14/2004 9:13:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 12:24:10 PM EST by 1shott]
That the 1903 and 1903A3 rifles are covered in GREASE, OIL, DIRT AND COSMO......

Here is what I got today, it even came in a silver baggy,








Now the FUN STARTS, this is going to be messy....
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:14:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 9:14:50 AM EST by cyanide]
Tooth brush and cans of WD 40

good luck...............
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:15:03 AM EST
Worship the cosmoline...

It's why so many old rifles that were carelessly stored are like new...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:15:43 AM EST
WD-40, brake cleaner, Simple Green.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:20:40 AM EST
My Ishapore Enfield was so gooped up that I broke it down, and just took the barelled action and
bolt over to the 'pay & go' carwash, and blasted it with their 'engine degreaser' mix, then washed it
down with the hot-water rinse. Came out looking great.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:22:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By drew5337:
WD-40, brake cleaner, Simple Green.



Nix the Simple Green, it's corrosive.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:23:25 AM EST
Buy some non-chloranatd brake clean .. it melts the stuff right off. i used it to clean my dads SKS and it looked beautifull under the greasy mess..
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:24:45 AM EST
I've got two 1903s and one M1 sitting like that in my living room - still in the bag. I bought them over a year ago! It was such a hassle prepping the first that the others will have to wait until I get motivated again.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 9:24:55 AM EST
Take the stock off and dip the metal in gasoline.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:31:04 AM EST
Yep on the gas...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:32:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By samsi:

Originally Posted By drew5337:
WD-40, brake cleaner, Simple Green.



Nix the Simple Green, it's corrosive.



What?

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:35:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:36:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 10:48:20 AM EST by Redcap]
Remove the wood and drop it into a tank of Tri-sodium Phosphate in hot water in 5-10 minutes. All the cosmoline will float up to the surface. Acetone for the wood; brake cleaner and WD40 work pretty well too.

I do this 2-3 days a week at work on old Enfields.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:37:55 AM EST
WHATEVER you do to remove cosmoline, eventually you will have to do it again - and again. Cosmoline is the gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving......
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:40:26 AM EST
I got mine also from the CMP and it was the GREASIEST gun I've EVER cleaned up...

Here's some of what you can look forwards to in the barrel:



Lots of fun!!



Shawn
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:42:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By srv656s:
I got mine also from the CMP and it was the GREASIEST gun I've EVER cleaned up...

Here's some of what you can look forwards to in the barrel:

www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/52701903-Nasty-barrel.jpg

Lots of fun!!



Shawn



Eeeewww.....but remember- all that gun-poop's what kept that gun so nice and shiny all these years- and will still, even after you think you've cleaned it all off....
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:45:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By srv656s:
I got mine also from the CMP and it was the GREASIEST gun I've EVER cleaned up...

Here's some of what you can look forwards to in the barrel:

www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/52701903-Nasty-barrel.jpg

Lots of fun!!



Shawn



Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:46:09 AM EST
Please advise why/how Simple Green is corrosive?

Acetone doesn't hurt wood?

Thanks! Alan
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:46:36 AM EST
kerosene is cheap and relatively safe. Oven cleaner (Easy Off) will work for the wood.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:46:49 AM EST
I almost want to get one just to have the experiance of cleaning one.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 10:51:03 AM EST
Simple Green has citric acid in it, that's why he said it was corrosive.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:03:27 AM EST
Simple Green is corrosive to aluminum.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:05:10 AM EST
I used simple green in boiling hot water as per reccomendations online, and it worked AWESOME. I didn't spend a whole lot of time scrubbing. Just a little time brushing the corners as a touch up after the soak. The hot water melts/softens the cosmo, and the soap action of the simple green does the rest. No need for harsh chemicals.

Corrosiveness? I Didn't notice any problems. Paranoia I say!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:05:41 AM EST
Oven cleaner will break down wood fibers. Thus, it is a no-no.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:08:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By akethan:
Simple Green has citric acid in it, that's why he said it was corrosive.



Most of the citrus-based cleaners are advertised as being non-corrosive.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:10:33 AM EST
Hi, when I received my Springfield 1903 from the CMP it was covered in grease, not as bad as the one pictured though. I disassembled the weapon completely and poured boiling water on the metal parts, grease/cosmoline melted right off. I cleaned the wood with mineral spirits.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:13:53 AM EST
Aluminum - Is it safe to use Simple Green on aluminum?

Simple Green products have been successfully and safely used on aircraft, automotive, industrial and consumer aluminum items for over 20 years. However, caution and common sense must be used: Aluminum is a soft metal that easily corrodes with unprotected exposure to water. The aqueous-base and alkalinity of Simple Green or Crystal Simple Green can accelerate the corrosion process. Therefore, contact times of All-Purpose Simple Green and Crystal Simple Green with unprotected or unpainted aluminum surfaces should be kept as brief as the job will allow - never for more than 10 minutes. Large cleaning jobs should be conducted in smaller-area stages to achieve lower contact time. Rinsing after cleaning should always be extremely thorough - paying special attention to flush out cracks and crevices to remove all Simple Green/Crystal Simple Green residues. Unfinished, uncoated or unpainted aluminum cleaned with Simple Green products should receive some sort of protectant after cleaning to prevent oxidation.

consumer.simplegreen.com/cons_faqs.php
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:15:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cableman:
Simple Green is corrosive to aluminum.



Extremely. I also don't think getting it in the barrel/receiver threads on a rifle would be a good thing.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:19:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 11:20:18 AM EST by samsi]

Originally Posted By mattja:
Aluminum - Is it safe to use Simple Green on aluminum?

Simple Green products have been successfully and safely used on aircraft, automotive, industrial and consumer aluminum items for over 20 years. However, caution and common sense must be used: Aluminum is a soft metal that easily corrodes with unprotected exposure to water. The aqueous-base and alkalinity of Simple Green or Crystal Simple Green can accelerate the corrosion process. Therefore, contact times of All-Purpose Simple Green and Crystal Simple Green with unprotected or unpainted aluminum surfaces should be kept as brief as the job will allow - never for more than 10 minutes. Large cleaning jobs should be conducted in smaller-area stages to achieve lower contact time. Rinsing after cleaning should always be extremely thorough - paying special attention to flush out cracks and crevices to remove all Simple Green/Crystal Simple Green residues. Unfinished, uncoated or unpainted aluminum cleaned with Simple Green products should receive some sort of protectant after cleaning to prevent oxidation.

consumer.simplegreen.com/cons_faqs.php



It's just not possible to rinse well enough in skin laps or things like the barrel/receiver junction. I personally know of an AT-6 (WWII trainer) that required reskinning of the wings after being cleaned with Simple Green for years. I believe the Army has also forbid it's use.


Link Posted: 9/14/2004 11:53:22 AM EST
We can agree on the use on airplanes that are not going to be power washed afterward. But on a rilfle that I am going to wash in the sink, I do not think that I have a problem.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 12:23:36 PM EST
Here a few more pic, check out the Armory section for alot more.....

All cleaned up and ready to go.......





Sign of repair at a Arsenal.......

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:36:16 PM EST
I got an Enfield at a show a few years that was coated so thick in cosmoline that I wasn't sure there was a rifle under there.
I wiped the heavy grease off with old rags. Degreased as best as I could with a gallon of acetone, then detail stripped it and leaned the stock and barreled action against my garage door in the hot afternoon sun. Left it that way all day. The heat had somewhat liquified the grease and it all finally ran off. Wiped it down again and did the same thing the next day.

Had to do that for a few days in a row till it stopped bleeding out. It is now one of the best looking original finish rifles I have next to my Swiss k31.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 3:47:12 PM EST
If you use a huge pot of boiling water you don't need any solvent or cleaner at all.

Just thought you might want to know.
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