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Posted: 5/21/2005 11:32:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 11:34:49 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]
Ok according to Stealth the 300 RUM has 32.8 FtLbs of recoil, and the 460 Wby Mag has 99.6 FtLbs of recoil.

Im in the process of making a 460 Wby Mag. So will I die If I shoot it? Im no stranger to recoil, So Im not gun shy. But damn I think it gonna smart!

And do you think a tacpoint will hold up to 20 rnds?
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:34:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
And do you think a tacpoint will hold up to 20 rnds?



Well, at 100yds. it would make a good target!
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:35:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GhostRing:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
And do you think a tacpoint will hold up to 20 rnds?



Well, at 100yds. it would make a good target!


LOL I was thinking 50 ft..
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:40:04 PM EDT
Strap a small female on the barrel. This will reduce the perceived recoil.
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:41:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/21/2005 11:43:19 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]

Originally Posted By Moof:
Strap a small female on the barrel. This will reduce the perceived recoil.



But thats not the high speed low drag, in the field way of doing things...

I cannot be tactal with a woman taped to my barrel! Unless shes carring my ballistic inserts for me..
Link Posted: 5/21/2005 11:45:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By Moof:
Strap a small female on the barrel. This will reduce the perceived recoil.



But thats not the high speed low drag, in the field way of doing things...

I cannot be tactal with a woman taped to my barrel! Unless shes carring my ballistic inserts for me..



Yea, but she'd make good rifle camo if you're stalking terrorists or water buffalo at the mall.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:05:53 PM EDT
I still think your gonna die though.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:09:46 PM EDT
Muzzle Brake.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:09:49 PM EDT
Your gonna need an 'Industrial Strength' recoil pad for that beast!!!!!!!

ANdy
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:12:14 PM EDT
And use very dense wood with metal inserts for the stock, the heavier, the better.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:12:54 PM EDT
I'd brake it...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:14:08 PM EDT
Recoil from the .460 is grim. Putting an effective break on the muzzle would be a great idea if you have any idea of shooting it from the bench without a Caldwell Lead Sled.

You will have better recoil control firing it offhand but be warned, you might lose your balance if you have no break and are under 300 pounds.

While I have never fired a .460, I have fired a .416 Rigby and Remington plus a .338-.378, all without breaks.

Die? No, but you might break a shoulder/butt/arm.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:16:47 PM EDT
throwing some mercury recoil absorbers in the stock couldnt hurt. I figure you should just suck that bad boy in as tight as you can and hold on for the ride
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:34:15 PM EDT
You won't die but one of your eyeballs might pop out.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:34:37 PM EDT
I had a buddy bought one about 20 years ago. We took it out to the farm and lit off 2 rounds each. Thats all either of us needed, still makes an interesting conversation piece in his safe today. While no pussy cat, makes his .458 Win feel tame in comparison.

Good luck!

BBossman

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 2:55:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stealth:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By Moof:
Strap a small female on the barrel. This will reduce the perceived recoil.



But thats not the high speed low drag, in the field way of doing things...

I cannot be tactal with a woman taped to my barrel! Unless shes carring my ballistic inserts for me..



Yea, but she'd make good rifle camo if you're stalking terrorists or water buffalo at the mall.



And when you're hungry she can go make you a sammich.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:01:04 PM EDT
What are you planning on hunting?
Rosie O'Donnell?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:03:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 3:03:58 PM EDT by recoiljunky]
Lift weights, eat steak, drink beer, keep silver dollars in your pocket, adopt a parrot to sit on your shoulder. You'll be alright with the extra weight.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:04:56 PM EDT
I have shot a .460 Wby unbraked, pretty stout but I had no problem with it at least shooting from the standing position. Now shooting prone and off a bench are another story, my buddy who owned the .460 Wby shot it off the bench once, it knocked the wind out of him.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:15:20 PM EDT
You won't die, but you could certainly hurt yourself if you don't have any experience with a real heavy hitter. I have found that after a certain level, 50ftlbs, I am unable to tell much difference up to the limit of 86ftlbs my .416 Rigby can produce when loaded to near .416 Weatherby velocities. I don't mean to say that I don't feel a difference in recoil levels, but the discomfort factor does not increase at the same rate... for me.

If you hand load, start off with some light for caliber bullets with minimum charges and build up your recoil tolerence levels. Spend as little time on the bench as you can. I shot a hog with my .416, and I swear it didn't kick any harder then a .30-06 when there was hair under the crosshairs.

Have fun!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:16:38 PM EDT
Get a Past Recoil Sheild - best $26 I ever spent - cuts the felt recoil from a .300WM down to .243 level(or less)... It makes sighting in my slug gun a pleasureable experience - used to be "not so much fun"(3" mag slug out of a 12ga pump)... I know you're talking about a significant recoil increase, but the principle remains the same... I figure maybe it'll reduce felt recoil to .338WM or .375H&HMag levels - which should be tolerable enough....

- georgestrings
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:19:39 PM EDT
yeah dude, your toast.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:26:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 3:29:52 PM EDT by GeorgeInNePa]
It won't kill you, it won't even really hurt you. Put a brake on it. Put a recoil pad on the rifle, Kick-Eze or Decelerator. If you are going to shoot it off the bench a 25lb bag of shot inbetween the rifle and your shoulder will take much of the recoil away.

I have a .600 OverKill, it fires a 900gr .620" bullet at over 2250fps. Your .460 puts out 8000 to 8500 ft/lbs of energy. The OK will get over 10000 ft/lbs with my rifles top load. It is also coming back at you with a higher velocity and a bit more energy. I've got over 80 rds through my rifle and I haven't died yet.



http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/p4e6f640412ef3ca5c83a45d075d9e142/f779c3b1.jpg
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:27:36 PM EDT
Fix your damn pic, I need to see your thunder stick
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:44:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
throwing some mercury recoil absorbers in the stock couldnt hurt. I figure you should just suck that bad boy in as tight as you can and hold on for the ride



Mercury really won't do much for a .460. It is unnoticeable in a 12 gauge.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:45:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wildearp:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
throwing some mercury recoil absorbers in the stock couldnt hurt. I figure you should just suck that bad boy in as tight as you can and hold on for the ride



Mercury really won't do much for a .460. It is unnoticeable in a 12 gauge.



depleted uranium buttstock?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:49:16 PM EDT
Limbsaver recoil pads.Best made IMHO.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:49:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:
It won't kill you, it won't even really hurt you. Put a brake on it. Put a recoil pad on the rifle, Kick-Eze or Decelerator. If you are going to shoot it off the bench a 25lb bag of shot inbetween the rifle and your shoulder will take much of the recoil away.

I have a .600 OverKill, it fires a 900gr .620" bullet at over 2250fps. Your .460 puts out 8000 to 8500 ft/lbs of energy. The OK will get over 10000 ft/lbs with my rifles top load. It is also coming back at you with a higher velocity and a bit more energy. I've got over 80 rds through my rifle and I haven't died yet.

www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/p4e6f640412ef3ca5c83a45d075d9e142/f779c3b1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/p4e6f640412ef3ca5c83a45d075d9e142/f779c3b1.jpg



Is that an AHR? I was wondering how the CZ550 Magnum action holds up to those big OK rounds. They seem great for the Rigbys, Lotts and such.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:57:42 PM EDT
If you die, can I have your guns?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:06:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stealth:

Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:
It won't kill you, it won't even really hurt you. Put a brake on it. Put a recoil pad on the rifle, Kick-Eze or Decelerator. If you are going to shoot it off the bench a 25lb bag of shot inbetween the rifle and your shoulder will take much of the recoil away.

I have a .600 OverKill, it fires a 900gr .620" bullet at over 2250fps. Your .460 puts out 8000 to 8500 ft/lbs of energy. The OK will get over 10000 ft/lbs with my rifles top load. It is also coming back at you with a higher velocity and a bit more energy. I've got over 80 rds through my rifle and I haven't died yet.

www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/p4e6f640412ef3ca5c83a45d075d9e142/f779c3b1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/p4e6f640412ef3ca5c83a45d075d9e142/f779c3b1.jpg



Is that an AHR? I was wondering how the CZ550 Magnum action holds up to those big OK rounds. They seem great for the Rigbys, Lotts and such.



That's a CZ550 .416Rigby action. My local gunsmith did all the work. According to the creator of this round it can go as high as 2400fps, but I would rather have a Granite Mountain Arms action for that. Bigger bolt and lugs. But GMA=$3000, CZ=$500, so you can see why I used a CZ.

www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid134/pc4f36bb3afb64bc593959f16c9849c23/f77bd762.jpg

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:13:29 PM EDT
I'm glad no one asked you "why do you need that gun?"
I think we all know why...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:18:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tonkaman:
I'm glad no one asked you "why do you need that gun?"
I think we all know why...



Yep, one word answer, the same answer as any gun...

"Because"
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:19:49 PM EDT
These, www.edwardsrecoilreducer.com/ work much better than the mercury recoil reducers.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:06:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:09:54 PM EDT by Fat_McNasty]

Originally Posted By Tonkaman:
I'm glad no one asked you "why do you need that gun?"
I think we all know why...



Because Im a gunsmith (with and extra 458 barrel and an extra enfield action) and need a presentation gun for the shop! And for your Info my weiner is average sized...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:08:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:



That is sweet! I think I peed my pants a little..
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:10:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tango7:
If you die, can I have your guns?




i got dibbs on the one that kills him!
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:08:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By Tonkaman:
I'm glad no one asked you "why do you need that gun?"
I think we all know why...



Because Im a gunsmith (with and extra 458 barrel and an extra enfield action) and need a presentation gun for the shop! And for your Info my weiner is average sized...



I didn't mean any disrespect by the question, no dispariging of body parts, etc. The correct answer to such a question is always: "why do you ask?" because as we all know you don't need a reason.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:26:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tonkaman:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By Tonkaman:
I'm glad no one asked you "why do you need that gun?"
I think we all know why...



Because Im a gunsmith (with and extra 458 barrel and an extra enfield action) and need a presentation gun for the shop! And for your Info my weiner is average sized...



I didn't mean any disrespect by the question, no dispariging of body parts, etc. The correct answer to such a question is always: "why do you ask?" because as we all know you don't need a reason.



LOL no disrespect taken... Ill get Stealth to film me firing off the first few round, and post it in the future.. It will probably look like those poor SOB's in the accuratereloading site.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:33:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 9:48:36 PM EDT by Stealth]

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Ill get Stealth to film me firing off the first few round, and post it in the future..



I'll bring my camera! and a spatula!


[darned red x's!]

Looks like I found an action for my big bore. That CZ looks like it could handle it. All I have to do now is decide on the caliber.
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