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Posted: 8/10/2011 9:46:37 AM EDT
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 9:56:23 AM EDT
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 9:58:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.


plusone
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 9:58:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.


Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:00:44 AM EDT
IBTL.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:00:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:00:55 AM EDT
You are the most intelligent, insightful member of the forum.

Sarcasm, to me at least, is easier perceived when spoken than written.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:01:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.


Ouch
see too obvious.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:05:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.


This certainly meets the OP's definition of sarcasm...
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:19:41 AM EDT
You didn't consider your audience.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:22:58 AM EDT
When I think my sarcasm may be taken seriously, I add a disclaimer.

This post captioned for the humor-impaired.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:22:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2011 10:23:31 AM EDT by Strykewolf]
Sarcasm rarely translates well. I usually try to throw in a , or something to indicate 'not serious'...

ETA: or, a
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:26:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2011 10:29:16 AM EDT by rod727]
I have found most people don't even get it in person let alone in writing....
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:26:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


A very insightful post. You make several good points.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:35:03 AM EDT
Sarcasm is lost on children and fools.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:42:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
This is the best post I've ever seen on ARFcom.


Ouch
see too obvious.



Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:51:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact?

Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:52:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:54:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


You failed, it wasn't even a respectable effort at sarcasm.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:55:07 AM EDT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm


Understanding

Understanding the subtlety of this usage requires second-order interpretation of the speaker's intentions. This sophisticated understanding can be lacking in some people with certain forms of brain damage, dementia and autism,[11] and this perception has been located by MRI in the right parahippocampal gyrus.[12][13]


This explains a lot.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:55:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact?


The OP might have missed that one.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 10:58:59 AM EDT
Use my patent-pending method of conveying your sarcasm through The Sarcasm Indicator, or "@" at the end of your post.

Link Posted: 8/10/2011 11:05:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By edb66:

Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact?


The OP might have missed that one.


I hate when I do that. I feel like such a looser.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 11:14:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
Originally Posted By edb66:

Originally Posted By XMM:
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
It happens to me a lot; I author a work of sarcasm and it is too subtle to be perceived by most. There is a reason for this; I always though sarcasm was best when it was just barely perceptible, too obvious and it looses all its charm and impact. That it should try and convey the full flavor of the fallacy, sophism, or idiocy that inspired it.

So the question is what is good satire?

The response to this post prompted this thread.


Isn't that the point, though? For it to release all of its charm and impact?


The OP might have missed that one.


I hate when I do that. I feel like such a looser.


*GASP!!* I was only being sarcastic. Calm down.

Link Posted: 8/10/2011 11:16:10 AM EDT
See sigline.

Or don't.*
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 11:34:25 AM EDT
Here's a tip: Repeating an opinion some dolts actually have - not sarcasm, unless the reader knows who the hell you are and that it's impossible you would hold this opinion.

Here is a very slight rewrite of your statement in the other thread that might not have confused as much. I think the key is to include references to facts that are obviously untrue - as opposed to opinions you might have.

Economy is _not_ recovering
All Obama did was...nothing.
Obama has no plan
The rich pay most taxes, certainly more than their "fair share"
etc...


It is without question that the so called "tea-bagger party" hacks are actively trying to damage our obviously recovering economy simply so they can delight in saying "neener neener neeener" to the American people. President Obama narrowly brought us back from the brink of disaster today due to his verbal restraint and patient inactivity. The carefully detailed and cunningly crafted plan he has presented the American people will see us through the coming decades in prosperity - we can _all_ be rich, not just fat cats with corporate jets who don't pay their fair share.

...
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 12:40:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kurg:
Here's a tip: Repeating an opinion some dolts actually have - not sarcasm, unless the reader knows who the hell you are and that it's impossible you would hold this opinion.

Here is a very slight rewrite of your statement in the other thread that might not have confused as much. I think the key is to include references to facts that are obviously untrue - as opposed to opinions you might have.

Economy is _not_ recovering
All Obama did was...nothing.
Obama has no plan
The rich pay most taxes, certainly more than their "fair share"
etc...


It is without question that the so called "tea-bagger party" hacks are actively trying to damage our obviously recovering economy simply so they can delight in saying "neener neener neeener" to the American people. President Obama narrowly brought us back from the brink of disaster today due to his verbal restraint and patient inactivity. The carefully detailed and cunningly crafted plan he has presented the American people will see us through the coming decades in prosperity - we can _all_ be rich, not just fat cats with corporate jets who don't pay their fair share.

...


Fantastic!
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