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Posted: 6/23/2017 6:03:15 PM EDT
Went to refill my script for Morphine Sulfate ER
60mg. quantity 90 generic.

Was told New price is $199.00.
Old price was $119.00.

Sams Club Corperate on June 1, 2017
Removed ALL Plus discounts on ALL pain
medications.

Walmart did the same thing about a year ago.

Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:05:02 PM EDT
No health plan?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:06:02 PM EDT
or maybe it reflects increased cost of their side...
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:06:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:07:25 PM EDT
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Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:09:03 PM EDT
thats dirty......   what is comparable market price?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:11:59 PM EDT
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Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
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Originally Posted By NwG:
or maybe it reflects increased cost of their side...
Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
If only there were competing drug stores he could fill his script with.  
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:13:39 PM EDT
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Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
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Walmart must be in on it too....

It's a conspiracy..
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:15:01 PM EDT
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If only there were competing drug stores he could fill his script with.  
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Originally Posted By mattja:
Originally Posted By NwG:
or maybe it reflects increased cost of their side...
Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
If only there were competing drug stores he could fill his script with.  
Shop around. They all charge basically the same. Ask me how I know.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:15:44 PM EDT
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Walmart must be in on it too....

It's a conspiracy..
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Originally Posted By mattja:


Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can?
Walmart must be in on it too....

It's a conspiracy..
Price fixing is real, if that's what you're asking.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:16:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheRealGhurkaDin:
Went to refill my script for Morphine Sulfate ER
60mg. quantity 90 generic.

Was told New price is $199.00.
Old price was $119.00.

Sams Club Corperate on June 1, 2017
Removed ALL Plus discounts on ALL pain
medications.

Walmart did the same thing about a year ago.

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Tablets or capsules?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:16:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/23/2017 6:21:15 PM EDT by Firefoxammo]
Use goodrx.com

Type in location , name of drug, cheapest listed places listed in your area.
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Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:16:54 PM EDT
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Shop around. They all charge basically the same. Ask me how I know.
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so either the price change reflects a change in the market price of the drug, or they are all trying to fuck you...

What seems moar plausible?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:18:04 PM EDT
What are you taking MS Contin for?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:18:48 PM EDT
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Price fixing is real, if that's what you're asking.
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Walmart/Sam's Club is currently engaged in a trust with all other pharmacies in the nation to fix the price of pain medication?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:21:38 PM EDT
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so either the price change reflects a change in the market price of the drug, or they are all trying to fuck you...

What seems moar plausible?
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Originally Posted By mattja:


Shop around. They all charge basically the same. Ask me how I know.
so either the price change reflects a change in the market price of the drug, or they are all trying to fuck you...

What seems moar plausible?
He's looking at an almost 100% price increase.

You think the market price changed that much? Please...
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:23:10 PM EDT
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Walmart/Sam's Club is currently engaged in a trust with all other pharmacies in the nation to fix the price of pain medication?
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Price fixing is real, if that's what you're asking.
Walmart/Sam's Club is currently engaged in a trust with all other pharmacies in the nation to fix the price of pain medication?
No, they look at their local competition and set the price based on that, not their actual cost.

Maybe not collusion, but certainly not based on cost.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:24:06 PM EDT
Gouging lol
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:24:29 PM EDT
Tablets
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:24:50 PM EDT
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He's looking at an almost 100% price increase.

You think the market price changed that much? Please...
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Maybe Sam's was charging quite a bit under market and decided to stop doing so.

I've been told that's what makes Walmart so dastardly.   Their low prices force all the other people out of business.   Maybe they just decided to stop being so dastardly.

Oh well.    You should really call up the Federal Trade Commission.    They're the ones who investigate these kinds of things.   Be sure to provide them with all of your evidence.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:24:56 PM EDT
In before "Go be poor somewhere else".












I feel for you man, that is a hell of a mark up.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:26:19 PM EDT
TheRealGhurkaDin, look into immediate release (IM) tablets of a lower dose. You will have to take them more often, but they are usually significantly cheaper than extended release.

I was shopping around for oxycodone and the ER tabs (oxycontin) were 10 times more expensive.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:26:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattja:


No, they look at their local competition and set the price based on that, not their actual cost.

Maybe not collusion, but certainly not based on cost.
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Oh, so they charge whatever the market will bear.

Welcome to a market economy.   I'm not sure what soviet bloc nation's hospital you just woke up in, but that's how market pricing works.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:29:22 PM EDT
That would cost me oh, about .87 cents.....It's good to have real insurance.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:29:56 PM EDT
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Maybe Sam's was charging quite a bit under market and decided to stop doing so.

I've been told that's what makes Walmart so dastardly.   Their low prices force all the other people out of business.   Maybe they just decided to stop being so dastardly.

Oh well.    You should really call up the Federal Trade Commission.    They're the ones who investigate these kinds of things.   Be sure to provide them with all of your evidence.
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Originally Posted By mattja:


He's looking at an almost 100% price increase.

You think the market price changed that much? Please...
Maybe Sam's was charging quite a bit under market and decided to stop doing so.

I've been told that's what makes Walmart so dastardly.   Their low prices force all the other people out of business.   Maybe they just decided to stop being so dastardly.

Oh well.    You should really call up the Federal Trade Commission.    They're the ones who investigate these kinds of things.   Be sure to provide them with all of your evidence.
Based on my own experience, I think the $119 was about right. The $199 price is just thievery.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:31:06 PM EDT
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Based on my own experience, I think the $119 was about right. The $199 price is just thievery.
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lol
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:31:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Oh, so they charge whatever the market will bear.

Welcome to a market economy.   I'm not sure what soviet bloc nation's hospital you just woke up in, but that's how market pricing works.
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Originally Posted By mattja:


No, they look at their local competition and set the price based on that, not their actual cost.

Maybe not collusion, but certainly not based on cost.
Oh, so they charge whatever the market will bear.

Welcome to a market economy.   I'm not sure what soviet bloc nation's hospital you just woke up in, but that's how market pricing works.
Like a heroin dealer, great. Market economy.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:32:30 PM EDT
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Like a heroin dealer, great. Market economy.
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No, like every other business in the country.

No one bases their prices on cost.   Prices are always set by the market.

Costs only affects the profit/incentive side of the equation.  Costs determine who is willing/able to fulfill the market demand.
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lol
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Originally Posted By mattja:


Based on my own experience, I think the $119 was about right. The $199 price is just thievery.
lol
Lol? What are you, a comedian? I've been on long-term opioids for my knees. I know a little about this stuff.

And did you see the chart posted above?

The highest price was Walgreens at $122.

$199 is thievery.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:36:32 PM EDT
Script explains the majority of OP's posts.
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Originally Posted By mattja:


Lol? What are you, a comedian? I've been on long-term opioids for my knees. I know a little about this stuff.

And did you see the chart posted above?

The highest price was Walgreens at $122.

$199 is thievery.
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How is that possible?   I thought they were all involved in some kind of pricing trust?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:39:35 PM EDT
Well with all the pain in the ass that selling opioids is now, they are probably trying to drive those customers away as to not have to deal with it.

Time to shop around OP.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:43:22 PM EDT
Oral morphine is a fucking joke anyway...

10% bioavailability... you are throwing way 90% of the cost for nothing..
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:50:14 PM EDT
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Use goodrx.com

Type in location , name of drug, cheapest listed places listed in your area.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64504/Screenshot-2017-06-23-18-18-09-237366.JPG
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This. Some of my Rx's end up cheaper than my BCBS co-pay using GoodRx
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:51:16 PM EDT
Here's my experience.

I started on norco, but that didn't cut it so I went to a pain specialist and he gave me oxycodone.

I got my oxycodone from costco for 2 months and then the price doubled. I didn't care, I had insurance. Two months later they told me they no longer carry oxycodone.

So I went to CVS. Got oxycodone for 1 month from them before the price doubled. Two months later they tell me they no longer carry oxycodone.

See a trend?

I knew the price doubled based on the statements from my insurance.

I finally went to Walgreens and have used them drama-free ever since.

Over several years I have seen the price steadily increase, but by 5% a year maybe. Never 100%.

A 100% increase can mean several things.

They are fucking you.
They undercharged to begin with, but based on the price quoted I don't think so.
They are trying to dissuade you from being their customer (as costco and cvs probably did to me, although they said they don't carry it anymore.)

Doctors don't like to write scripts for opioids and pharmacies don't like to carry them because of the added security needed, and the general bad name given to these drugs plus new state and federal regs.

Remember what Obama said at the start of Obamacare?

"Mr. and Mrs. Jones on Medicare, you may not be able to get your hip replaced anymore. You'll have to take a pain pill."

And then they took the pain pills too.
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Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Well with all the pain in the ass that selling opioids is now, they are probably trying to drive those customers away as to not have to deal with it.

Time to shop around OP.
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That's very likely. Did the same to me.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:52:41 PM EDT
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Oral morphine is a fucking joke anyway...

10% bioavailability... you are throwing way 90% of the cost for nothing..
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They should give him a needle?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:56:07 PM EDT
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This. Some of my Rx's end up cheaper than my BCBS co-pay using GoodRx
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Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Use goodrx.com

Type in location , name of drug, cheapest listed places listed in your area.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64504/Screenshot-2017-06-23-18-18-09-237366.JPG
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This. Some of my Rx's end up cheaper than my BCBS co-pay using GoodRx
I get 90% of my meds at Costco. The price is half the cost of my monthly insurance copay for a 90 day supply.

i.e.
90 day supply at Costco paying out-of-pocket = $15.
90 day supply using insurance and paying copay = $90.

So, I hardly ever use the insurance for meds.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:56:49 PM EDT
This explains so much about OP's threads
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:57:53 PM EDT
I'm not a doctor, and I don't have a lot of room to talk when it comes to self destructive behavior for a lot of years, but maybe they're doing you a bit of a favor. 

That's a lot of pain meds, dude.

Btw, don't take anything I write too seriously. It's just the random musings of a moron. 
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 6:59:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mattja:


Lol? What are you, a comedian? I've been on long-term opioids for my knees. I know a little about this stuff.

And did you see the chart posted above?

The highest price was Walgreens at $122.

$199 is thievery.
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Then you should move your provider to Walgreens.

I spent 4 months taking pain meds and said fuck that, I take advil these days, I am finally back to being able to poop again!

Sorry buddy, no sympathy from me.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:00:18 PM EDT
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That's very likely. Did the same to me.
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It's definitely happening. The war on drugs is ruining life for people with pain.
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It's definitely happening. The war on drugs is ruining life for people with pain.
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That sucks.

I've been told by conservatives that that's a price they're willing to pay to keep some people from getting high recreationally.

Not by conservatives who actually live with chronic pain, I suspect.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:04:38 PM EDT
So we should limit how much retailers can profit from their goods? How much is fair for them to make? Where is it written that they're to base pricing on wholesale cost multiples? How do market forces work? What did 911 say when you called to report it?
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:14:37 PM EDT
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They should give him a needle?
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Pick a drug with better bioavailability...

Oral morphine is a joke.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:25:01 PM EDT
MAGA.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:26:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:34:01 PM EDT
Feds probably have mandated no discounts on opiates.
Link Posted: 6/23/2017 7:37:23 PM EDT
Wall-Mart is losing sales, they are raising prices where and whenever they can
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