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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:44:12 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune.
By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:44:55 PM EDT
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I'm on a med that's over a $100 a month at Walgreens but by switching to an online provider they send me a 3 month supply for $150. 50% savings and I don't even need to leave the house to get it. OptumRx I think is the name. It might be worth checking into.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:45:47 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:46:24 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:46:34 PM EDT
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Switch to Methadone, I take 180 10 mg..tabs..for $33.00
I am getting my Med. Marijuana card next week and dumping the pills. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:47:12 PM EDT
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They don't want to deal with the dispensing of opiates anymore.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Good thing we have a great doctor like yourself here to tell us who should and shouldn't be using certain medications. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:49:57 PM EDT
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This explains so much about OP's threads |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 7:51:20 PM EDT
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What are you taking MS Contin for? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:01:12 PM EDT
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No, like every other business in the country. No one bases their prices on cost. Prices are always set by the market. Costs only affects the profit/incentive side of the equation. Costs determine who is willing/able to fulfill the market demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like a heroin dealer, great. Market economy. No one bases their prices on cost. Prices are always set by the market. Costs only affects the profit/incentive side of the equation. Costs determine who is willing/able to fulfill the market demand. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:08:46 PM EDT
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Went to refill my script for Morphine Sulfate ER 60mg. quantity 90 generic. Was told New price is $199.00. Old price was $119.00. Sams Club Corperate on June 1, 2017 Removed ALL Plus discounts on ALL pain medications. Walmart did the same thing about a year ago.  You take 180mg of morphine per day? Who is your doc? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:12:12 PM EDT
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TheRealGhurkaDin, look into immediate release (IM) tablets of a lower dose. You will have to take them more often, but they are usually significantly cheaper than extended release. I was shopping around for oxycodone and the ER tabs (oxycontin) were 10 times more expensive. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:12:58 PM EDT
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Gouging lol |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:39 PM EDT
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Based on my own experience, I think the $119 was about right. The $199 price is just thievery. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:43 PM EDT
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That's not entirely accurate. Grocery stores price 99.9% of items based of a set margin over cost. Many times it is set as a profit margin for an entire department. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:45 PM EDT
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Or maybe we just get sad from seeing so many lives lost each day. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:14:56 PM EDT
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Lol? What are you, a comedian? I've been on long-term opioids for my knees. I know a little about this stuff. And did you see the chart posted above? The highest price was Walgreens at $122. $199 is thievery. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:16:26 PM EDT
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Here's my experience. I started on norco, but that didn't cut it so I went to a pain specialist and he gave me oxycodone. I got my oxycodone from costco for 2 months and then the price doubled. I didn't care, I had insurance. Two months later they told me they no longer carry oxycodone. So I went to CVS. Got oxycodone for 1 month from them before the price doubled. Two months later they tell me they no longer carry oxycodone. See a trend? I knew the price doubled based on the statements from my insurance. I finally went to Walgreens and have used them drama-free ever since. Over several years I have seen the price steadily increase, but by 5% a year maybe. Never 100%. A 100% increase can mean several things. They are fucking you. They undercharged to begin with, but based on the price quoted I don't think so. They are trying to dissuade you from being their customer (as costco and cvs probably did to me, although they said they don't carry it anymore.) Doctors don't like to write scripts for opioids and pharmacies don't like to carry them because of the added security needed, and the general bad name given to these drugs plus new state and federal regs. Remember what Obama said at the start of Obamacare? "Mr. and Mrs. Jones on Medicare, you may not be able to get your hip replaced anymore. You'll have to take a pain pill." And then they took the pain pills too.  |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:18:38 PM EDT
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DEA is now in a roundabout way limiting monthly opiate supply to ALL pharmacies
My daughter's pharmacy had their supply for narcs cut by 28% Supply and demand |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:23:09 PM EDT
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DEA is now in a roundabout way limiting monthly opiate supply to ALL pharmacies My daughter's pharmacy had their supply for narcs cut by 28% Supply and demand |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:31:58 PM EDT
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It's definitely happening. The war on drugs is ruining life for people with pain. Absolutely the truth. And for those asking why he's taking what, or just take an aspirin....smh. Probably none of our business. And secondly, if ibuprofen fixes your pain, you never had any real pain to begin with. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:33:09 PM EDT
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That sucks. I've been told by conservatives that that's a price they're willing to pay to keep some people from getting high recreationally. Not by conservatives who actually live with chronic pain, I suspect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's definitely happening. The war on drugs is ruining life for people with pain. I've been told by conservatives that that's a price they're willing to pay to keep some people from getting high recreationally. Not by conservatives who actually live with chronic pain, I suspect. Fuck the war on drugs. It costs us money, and hurts our loved ones in need. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:35:43 PM EDT
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Fighting opioid abuse.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:35:55 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. Our people shouldn't have to suffer. And no, you have not a clue about real pain apparently. When you lay in the floor crying or immobile contemplating morbid thoughts, take your Advil and get back with us. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:37:44 PM EDT
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This man knows. Absolutely the truth. And for those asking why he's taking what, or just take an aspirin....smh. Probably none of our business. And secondly, if ibuprofen fixes your pain, you never had any real pain to begin with. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:39:40 PM EDT
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or maybe it reflects increased cost of their side... |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:45:32 PM EDT
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He's looking at an almost 100% price increase. You think the market price changed that much? Please... |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:01:18 PM EDT
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Like a heroin dealer, great. Market economy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, they look at their local competition and set the price based on that, not their actual cost. Maybe not collusion, but certainly not based on cost. Welcome to a market economy. I'm not sure what soviet bloc nation's hospital you just woke up in, but that's how market pricing works. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:06:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:07:33 PM EDT
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Psst...The hive doesn't believe that companies ever try to screw their customers... and whatever you do, don't mention the term "price gouging." There is no such thing according to the hive. Even when post Katrina gas stations jacked up their prices to $6 a gallon. It was for the good of the people, you understand? Do any of you even own an actual business? This place is getting more FSA every week Don't like the price, shop elsewhere |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:12:04 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. alot of less fortunate countries do have people on drugs its just not pharmaceutical as they grow it and ingest it themselves, alcohol is another drug that people use in abundance around the world. Shit can't you get opiates over the counter in Mexico? I know some countrie syou can |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:28:58 PM EDT
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By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. [ ] |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:37:42 PM EDT
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What are you taking MS Contin for? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:41:50 PM EDT
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Costs about 41.49 for a bottle of 100ct
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:57:20 PM EDT
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Switch to Methadone, I take 180 10 mg..tabs..for $33.00 I am getting my FLESHLIGHT and dumping the pills. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Switch to Methadone, I take 180 10 mg..tabs..for $33.00 I am getting my FLESHLIGHT and dumping the pills. The mere possession of the card makes you a prohibited person. Read ATF's 2011 and 2016 policy as upheld by the 9th Circus Court of Appeals. http://www.guns.com/2016/11/28/atf-stands-firm-on-marijuana-ban/ http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/11/22/atf-marijuana-gun-ban/68075/ From the 2011 policy Therefore, any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 9:59:49 PM EDT
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Switch to Methadone, I take 180 10 mg..tabs..for $33.00 I am getting my -SNIP- next week and dumping the pills. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:08:34 PM EDT
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Humble brag thread
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:09:01 PM EDT
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I don't get this thread.
OP is bitching about capitalism and companies setting the price they want for a product they sell? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:10:09 PM EDT
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You take 180mg of morphine per day? Who is your doc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Went to refill my script for Morphine Sulfate ER 60mg. quantity 90 generic. Was told New price is $199.00. Old price was $119.00. Sams Club Corperate on June 1, 2017 Removed ALL Plus discounts on ALL pain medications. Walmart did the same thing about a year ago. You take 180mg of morphine per day? Who is your doc? 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:15:38 PM EDT
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What determines their acceptable margin? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's not entirely accurate. Grocery stores price 99.9% of items based of a set margin over cost. Many times it is set as a profit margin for an entire department. There are some stores popping up that use a "Cost Plus" model and those that I have seen use 10%. I would honestly do that if I owned a store as managing pricing is a full time job. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:15:44 PM EDT
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Strictly my conjecture here, but the price increase may be due to the lack of pills prescribed as marijuana becomes more and more available (legal) for folks who would rather use it than narcotics.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:24:53 PM EDT
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It keeps the street creeps outta the store.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:27:04 PM EDT
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Strictly my conjecture here, but the price increase may be due to the lack of pills prescribed as marijuana becomes more and more available (legal) for folks who would rather use it than narcotics. If you think for one second that the people who go to actual pain clinics, where the doctor specializes in treating chronic pain just show up, get a bottle of pills and walks out with a grin you are crazy. The do pill counts, drug tests, alternative therapy and won't take patients who ASK for drugs by name plus a ton of other stuff. If you think you can go in, and say "well doc I think I need 4mg Dilaudid 5 times a day" and the doc says Ya buddy sounds right here ya go, well then you are insane. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:30:34 PM EDT
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Why are you paying cash for your narcotic rx and not running it through insurance
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:35:57 PM EDT
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This explains so much about OP's threads |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 10:47:17 PM EDT
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Not by conservatives who actually live with chronic pain, I suspect. BTW what is happening is entirely because of ObamaCare, which was written by pharmaceutical industry lobbyists. One prescription I am familiar with was a $5 co-pay with my insurance in 2009, now it's about $400 and not covered by insurance. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:00:59 PM EDT
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:06:10 PM EDT
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:08:38 PM EDT
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:10:36 PM EDT
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And there are Arfcommers who can one-up you ten times over. I don't see them taking shots at the OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else. "Hurrrrr it's live saving to me so it should be cheap" |
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