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Posted: 3/16/2011 12:19:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 12:33:33 AM EST by Armed_Scientist]
http://www.reddawn2011.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=164:mgm-is-changing-the-villains-in-its-red-dawn-remake-from-chinese-to-north-korean&catid=1:location-news&Itemid=17

The studio has decided that for fear of alienating Chinese movie goers and investors they will digitally re-master and alter the movie so that North Korea and not China will be the invader. All I have to say if you have got to be fucking kidding me. The fact that we are bending over backwards to not portray the PRC as what they are, our biggest rival and enemy in the 21st century, is asinine.

It's as if in the middle of the cold war, for fear of upsetting the Russians, we made movies where the Soviet client states and not the Soviets themselves were the enemy. (It's not a perfect analogy, I'm not implying that North Korea is a client/satellite state of china the way the former Warsaw block was to the USSR. I'm cognizant that things that the North Korea/PRC relationship is more complicated then that)

Edited to add, the publishers of Homefront insisted on a similar switch between the PRC as the enemy to North Korea.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 12:33:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
http://www.reddawn2011.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=164:mgm-is-changing-the-villains-in-its-red-dawn-remake-from-chinese-to-north-korean&catid=1:location-news&Itemid=17

The studio has decided that for fear of alienating Chinese movie goers and investors they will digitally re-master and alter the movie so that North Korea and not China will be the invader. All I have to say if you have got to be fucking kidding me. The fact that we are bending over backwards to not portray the PRC as what they are, our biggest rival and enemy in the 21st century, is asinine.

It's as if in the middle of the cold war, for fear of upsetting the Russians, we made movies where the Soviet client states and not the Soviets themselves were the enemy. (It's not a perfect analogy, I'm not implying that North Korea is a client/satellite state of china the way the former Warsaw block was to the USSR. I'm cognizant that things that the North Korea/PRC relationship is more complicated then that)


The remake quite simply looks like it's going to be stupid. The scenario they originally had wasn't exactly great to begin with. I know Milius wouldn't have succumbed to this PC bullshit.

IMO to be kind of realistic the invasion would have to take place in Alaska or one of the territories we have in the Western Pacific and not CONUS. Even if the ChiComs went to war with us they wouldn't even try to invade CONUS. They aren't that stupid nor are they suicidal. A huge amount of things would have to go horribly wrong before the ChiComs, especially if they are acting by themselves, could even have a shot at such a thing. The idea they would do it over the debt owed to them is pretty stupid. The ChiComs for the most part want us to come to them not vice versa.

And in the original the client states fought alongside and sometimes led the way for the Soviets.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:08:23 AM EST
So who's the nemesis, geriatric neo-nazis?
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:21:52 AM EST
More probable scenario is NK is defecting rather than invading.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:24:38 AM EST


Home Front anyone?

http://www.homefront-game.com/


Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:28:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:30:06 AM EST
Just the fact that they need to choose a "safe" villain for this movie proves how far off they'll be in it's production. A PC version of Red Dawn? Why even bother?
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:34:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 1:35:43 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:41:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By Chesh97:
Agh.. got it. We would hate to offend the chinese



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-chinese-pianist-play-anti-american-tune-at-white-house/


Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:41:51 AM EST


We won't dare to actually put Muslims as the real enemy in the movies or games. So, it's safer to pick on the Asians (non-Muslims types only) since they don't have CAIR stuffed with lawyers.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:49:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:
at least the chinese will not be upset when they pirate it

This.

Plus you wouldn't want to upset 1 billion + and growing market. Even at dirt wages it adds up.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 1:52:30 AM EST
Eh, Muslims and/or our own politicians are our own worst enemies right now.


The modern-day Red Dawn would have us stooping to stoopid levels of PC, finding the citizens unarmed & sold out to socialism by self-serving politicians in their lust for power. Then some sort of catalyst event where the last remnants of freedom go tits up.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 2:10:45 AM EST
Apparently the movie studios welcome their new overlords.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 2:25:42 AM EST
I predict that (in the movie) any armed American Citizen will be portrayed as a bumbling, inbred, racist who will be quickly and easily dealt with by the "NK professhunals". It will be a spunky, welfare mom who will "MacGyver" together some save the day counter measure that forces the aggressors to lay down their weapons and start building free child day-care facilities. It will be revealed (while our hero bangs one of the reluctant invaders) that they only came here because America is such a rich nation yet refused to "spread the wealth" to the rest of the World.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 2:33:45 AM EST
Fuck China
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 2:46:11 AM EST


First, Red Dawn. I think the ass kissing to ensure political correctness having leaked over into a survivalist genre is sick..We cannot even
have an enemy nowadays because the fear of hurting feelings..Hell, we have to shoot RPG's at someone while foraging for
Beef Raccoon Jerky and Olives captured by the invading hordes..

This is why I strongly believe, VERY soon,the only groups which it will be socially/politically acceptable to wage a no rules, guerrilla warfare upon, will be strictly limited to those who subscribe to similar belief of Freedom as Tea Party Members, Evangelical Christians and God Himself..Or any group consisting of those who subscribe to a morally,ethically and "Just" way of life.

This above group will be seen as undesirables and will be hunted down and "quelled" and "silenced" by the World Union and It's "Citizens" which will include even those who reside physically within the United States and also abroad, who subscribe to a radically fueled far-left Liberalism and those who either subscribe to or are outspoken and long standing members of the worlds ONLY well protected and government sanctioned religion, who will be backed and funded politically,socially,financially,militarily by those who consider themselves as "Non-Deist"or those who are self promoting members, in fact, of their own religion of Nontheism..Or the religion of only "ONE"

China is not our Arch Nemesis..They are our social and political model for the future society of the United States, Especially from
those in power currently.

There have been and are currently certain members of our own government, past and present, who have looked toward China and other communist nations for inspiration in leadership roles and models of social order and working governments paradigms for the future..

Simply, because the concepts of Martial Law, rules of restoring social order under catastrophic events, namely for safety,peace and as well as continued Security for the Homeland, are largely within the "Conspiracy Networks" does not remove "hints" which may be factual information gleaned through investigational methods.

Some of which could be implemented on the people of the United States in the future or maybe it already has been put into effect but it has gone unnoticed because of smoke and mirrors...Quick, Look over there!
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 2:56:16 AM EST
A PC version of Red Dawn? Why even bother?


No kidding. Instead of fighting back the Wolverines could all put on che shirts and protest against GWB.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:09:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Fuck China

And Obama and the Wookie Skank.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:30:55 AM EST
Nothing new really. ABC almost caved in to pressure to not air "Amerika". The decision was a pretty close thing. Still wont release it on DVD.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:32:32 AM EST
I'm thinking that more Chinese would want to see them invade the US at the movies, kind of like the Muslim counties cheering will watching Black Hawk Down.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:32:32 AM EST
So they go from a somewhat unbelievable scenario to a laughable one. Good job. This is going to be the faggiest remake evar.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:35:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:39:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
So they go from a somewhat unbelievable scenario to a laughable one. Good job. This is going to be the faggiest remake evar.

I thought they never finished it anyway? Didn't they pull the plug on this during the bank crisis when the movie was only 80% finished?
Who knows. The best thing that could happen is that this version die, and we await a real director who will make a new red dawn worthy of the return of Chrsit.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:45:59 AM EST
Why don't they just make the bad guys tea party people with Sara palin as their leader and the good guys can be union worker party patriots led by Obama and pelosi
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:47:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By yagermeister:
Why don't they just make the bad guys tea party people with Sara palin as their leader and the good guys can be union worker party patriots led by Obama and pelosi

I'm sure something is in the works.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:49:34 AM EST
So, it's going to be another Sum of all fears?

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:50:09 AM EST
So they took something that sucks, and made it suck just a little bit more?

This is like telling me they changed one of the co-stars on the Hanna Montana show.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:52:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:52:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By fiver:
So they took something that sucks, and made it suck just a little bit more?

This is like telling me they changed one of the co-stars on the Hanna Montana show.

REALLY!!!!11!!!!1!! ZOMG is she hot?!?!?!
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:53:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:55:21 AM EST
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.

By making them N. Korean, you don't offend the Chinese patrons and probably gain more favor with folks in countries like S. Korea, Japan, Australia etc.

We have to face it, big movies made today are targeted for the world audience, not American. This is the reason GI Joe was no longer droped the "American" hero bit and became that bastardized global initiative unit.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:56:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
So they go from a somewhat unbelievable scenario to a laughable one. Good job. This is going to be the faggiest remake evar.

I thought they never finished it anyway? Didn't they pull the plug on this during the bank crisis when the movie was only 80% finished?
Who knows. The best thing that could happen is that this version die, and we await a real director who will make a new red dawn worthy of the return of Chrsit.


I completely agree. I can't see anyone making a decent Red Dawn remake in today's political climate. If John Milius was doing it now it'd either be a band of crazed Taliban paratroopers (hey it's not like the first one was realistic) instituting Sharia Law in some little midwest town, or it'd be BATF agents assisted by UN stormtroopers rounding up guys from the membership lists of local gun clubs.

The funny thing with sequels is I generally fall for the hype that it is going to be as awesome as the first one. Then it ends up being "meh". When the hype about a sequal is that it is going to blow goats and THEN I read the possible storyline and it sounds gayer than hell, well, consider me disgusted. Their is no way it is going to be a gem in the annals of sequels.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.

By making them N. Korean, you don't offend the Chinese patrons and probably gain more favor with folks in countries like S. Korea, Japan, Australia etc.

We have to face it, big movies made today are targeted for the world audience, not American. This is the reason GI Joe was no longer droped the "American" hero bit and became that bastardized global initiative unit.

The American audience brings a lot of bucks. The cult followers of the first one are going to vomit en masse. I predict record fail for this bitch if it ever manages to disgrace the big screen.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 3:57:33 AM EST
They could always call it some unknown communist country ?

Iron Eagle did similar even though it was pretty obvious it was libya.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:05:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 4:06:30 AM EST by Tim_the_enchanter]
Movies are no longer made for the American public. They are made for the global audience and there are over a billion people in China who love American movies. If China is the booger man, the commie mind controllers won't allow it to be released to one sixth of the worlds population. Studio execs will not allow that to happen.

Edit;
I don't care who the bad guy is, I won't be seeing the piece of shit. If it isn't Millius, it isn't Red Dawn.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:08:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 4:09:05 AM EST by USMC6177]
Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
So they go from a somewhat unbelievable scenario to a laughable one. Good job. This is going to be the faggiest remake evar.

I thought they never finished it anyway? Didn't they pull the plug on this during the bank crisis when the movie was only 80% finished?


It was in post production when it was shelved. There were some rumors going around that finaciers of a certain ethnic background had influenced the lack of funding due to way it cast China is a negative light. With the new turn of events it looks like they may have been right...
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:11:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.


Does it really? I've never seen the numbers.

I'd figure most of the shit in China is just pirated. That's the way it was when I was over there.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:13:37 AM EST
They should refilm it with the USA invading China, that would be awesome.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:13:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.

By making them N. Korean, you don't offend the Chinese patrons and probably gain more favor with folks in countries like S. Korea, Japan, Australia etc.

We have to face it, big movies made today are targeted for the world audience, not American. This is the reason GI Joe was no longer droped the "American" hero bit and became that bastardized global initiative unit.

The American audience brings a lot of bucks. The cult followers of the first one are going to vomit en masse. I predict record fail for this bitch if it ever manages to disgrace the big screen.

they do, but often less than the international market. Case and point-that abortion 2012 movie made $166 million in the US and something like $600+ million overseas. Studios aren't going to ignore that type of revenue stream. If it has lots of explosions and isn't too pro-american, it'll sell overseas.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:13:53 AM EST
Why must they do this? Seriously, please, just stop.

Red Dawn is something I hold sacred from my childhood. I saw it in the movie theater when it was released.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:14:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
at least the chinese will not be upset when they pirate it


I once worked with this Russian guy who was a total, I mean total dick and I told him he needed to see Red Dawn. He came back the next day infuriated, it was awesome.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:17:38 AM EST
I could care less. I wasn't going to watch the movie anyway.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:18:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By fiver:

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.


Does it really? I've never seen the numbers.

I'd figure most of the shit in China is just pirated. That's the way it was when I was over there.

Depending on the movie, could be. For example I read Inception had about $75 million in ticket sales just in China last year.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:18:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Hamel:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.

By making them N. Korean, you don't offend the Chinese patrons and probably gain more favor with folks in countries like S. Korea, Japan, Australia etc.

We have to face it, big movies made today are targeted for the world audience, not American. This is the reason GI Joe was no longer droped the "American" hero bit and became that bastardized global initiative unit.

The American audience brings a lot of bucks. The cult followers of the first one are going to vomit en masse. I predict record fail for this bitch if it ever manages to disgrace the big screen.

they do, but often less than the international market. Case and point-that abortion 2012 movie made $166 million in the US and something like $600+ million overseas. Studios aren't going to ignore that type of revenue stream. If it has lots of explosions and isn't too pro-american, it'll sell overseas.

But this movie is defined by American kids defending themselves from the rest of the world. If they deviate too much from that very pro-American theme, they should just name it something else. Even the name caters directly to the American market.

Take the same movie and name it something else. If you want to remake Red Dawn, then remake it.

They did it perfectly with Dawn of the Dead, another cult classic.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:20:58 AM EST
Can't "Investors" buy the film, then release it on thier own terms? (Group Investment-Buy)
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:25:54 AM EST
Under the assinine doctrine of political correctness shouldn't they be white supremacists or something along those lines?

I mean, c'mon, North Korea couldn't invade Rhode Island.


The fact is, in the current environment white, christian, heterosexual males ARE the enemy of the Left and the Govt.

Hey, I can accept that and in fact, it actually works for me. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, and all that. Past time to just get it on.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:26:40 AM EST
I am disappoint.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:36:44 AM EST


I got a better idea, we get invaded by euro-fags!
They round up people, put them in camps and make them listen to techno music and take eXtacy.
It's called a work camp but we don't actually have to work, we get checks cheques of free money and retire from the camp at 30.
They force you to watch Soccar Football matches on a large 50 foot 15.2 meter television screen.

But five kids from West Virginia have escaped to the mountains and now one of them sees his father in the camp. His hair has been dyed black and he's got black nail polish as well.

what have they done to ya pop???
OH! This is nothing! They turned uncle Billybob into a French-Morrocan Hip hop wanna be taxi driver!! You ever listen to Rap music in French?????

Avenge me son! AAAAAVENGE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:41:37 AM EST
Why not make it the Isle of Wight? They have just as much chance of invading the US as NK.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 4:47:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Originally Posted By Hamel:

Originally Posted By BustinCaps:

Originally Posted By Hamel:
They are chasing the dollar. Chinese box office represent a significant amount of dollars.

By making them N. Korean, you don't offend the Chinese patrons and probably gain more favor with folks in countries like S. Korea, Japan, Australia etc.

We have to face it, big movies made today are targeted for the world audience, not American. This is the reason GI Joe was no longer droped the "American" hero bit and became that bastardized global initiative unit.

The American audience brings a lot of bucks. The cult followers of the first one are going to vomit en masse. I predict record fail for this bitch if it ever manages to disgrace the big screen.

they do, but often less than the international market. Case and point-that abortion 2012 movie made $166 million in the US and something like $600+ million overseas. Studios aren't going to ignore that type of revenue stream. If it has lots of explosions and isn't too pro-american, it'll sell overseas.

But this movie is defined by American kids defending themselves from the rest of the world. If they deviate too much from that very pro-American theme, they should just name it something else. Even the name caters directly to the American market.

Take the same movie and name it something else. If you want to remake Red Dawn, then remake it.

They did it perfectly with Dawn of the Dead, another cult classic.

And GI Joe used to be the "real American hero". They played around with it to be more world friendly and it ended up making more overseas than in the US.

If its a choice about keeping true to a story's roots or changing it to make more $, the studios will choose the $.


Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:05:15 AM EST
If I read correctly, the Red Dawn remake is based in Detroit primarily.

Detroit.



REally?? Detroit?


The chicoms want Detroit? Really?

WTF?

So now the NKoComs want Detroit? Really.... Really. W T F
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