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Posted: 10/12/2005 2:30:10 PM EDT
Here are a few records set by the former President Bill Clinton:

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

For more info visit: prorev.com/legacy.htm
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:45:17 PM EDT
And to think that a lot of libtards in this country want 8 more years of this discraceful duo.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:49:15 PM EDT

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And to think that a lot of libtards in this country want 8 more years of this discraceful duo.


+1.  Sad, but true.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:51:14 PM EDT
Shameful
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:53:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:54:11 PM EDT

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Shameful



You're being entirely too polite.

"Utterly fucking pathetic" is more like it....
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:56:57 PM EDT
It was very funny to hear Freeh talk about how overwhelmed he was with his boss's scandals.  Past scandals, present scandals, emerging scandals, it never ended with Clinton.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 2:59:34 PM EDT
Uh, he was impeached for perjury.

Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:11:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:15:34 PM EDT
What a AO
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:16:48 PM EDT
Actually, the true progressives (our real enemies) dislike the Clintons and their centrist legacy. He screwed them with NAFTA, welfare reform and a host of other issues.

If a democrats would come out and be pro-gun, and want lower taxes for everyone the Republicans would lose in a heartbeat. Alas, they cannot abandon the progressive margin just as the Republicans cannot abandon the fundamentalist margin.

Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:58:34 PM EDT
tag to piss off liberals
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:06:47 PM EDT

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tag to piss off liberals



shameless +1
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:19:15 PM EDT
At least he has a legacy.

Don't forget, he was the first president to lose the key to the nuclear football.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:04:02 AM EDT

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At least he has a legacy.

Don't forget, he was the first president to lose the key to the nuclear football.



oh yeah... forgot about that one. didn't he lose it for days?
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:08:09 AM EDT
First Black President...

Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:09:47 AM EDT

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At least he has a legacy.

Don't forget, he was the first president to lose the key to the nuclear football.





Not true.

Although I bet he was the first to lose it and not give a shit.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:22:25 AM EDT

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At least he has a legacy.

Don't forget, he was the first president to lose the key to the nuclear football.




Can you kick start it in a pinch? It is a football....
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:25:26 AM EDT
You forgot about his in 2nd place for nailing the most poontang in the Oval Office.

JFK still holds that record.

But Clinton does hold the record for nailing the fattest pig in the Oval Office.

Wheras JFK has the record for the the best trim. (Marilyn). And having the best looking first lady.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:30:51 AM EDT
You forgot to add,

- Didn't waste 2,000 lives and $500 billion invading Iraq
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:31:11 AM EDT

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Quoted:
Shameful



You're being entirely too polite.

"Utterly fucking pathetic" is more like it....


+ a brazillion
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:32:21 AM EDT

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You forgot to add,

- Didn't waste 2,000 lives and $500 billion invading Iraq



Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:32:59 AM EDT

Quoted:
You forgot to add,

- Didn't waste 2,000 lives and $500 billion invading Iraq




Nope, he just sat around for 8 years while that nation was used as a stewpot of terrorism and regional unrest, and while hundreds of Americans were killed by terrorists, and while thousands more had their fates sealed because he wanted to indict Bin Laden rather than KILL him.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:37:05 AM EDT
Just playing the snot stirring advocate here....


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Nope, he just sat around for 8 years while that nation was used as a stewpot of terrorism and regional unrest,




Now the nation is a frying pat of terrorism and regional unrest



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...and while hundreds of Americans were killed by terrorists, and while thousands more had their fates sealed because he wanted to indict Bin Laden rather than KILL him.



We're getting Afghanistan confused with Iraq again!




Doesn't matter now anyway as we're ears deep into it now, so that said......

better over there than over here.

Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:38:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:39:09 AM EDT
Must be why so many other countries loved him... because they're all equally corrupt and morally bankrupt.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:39:28 AM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:
Actually, the true progressives (our real enemies) dislike the Clintons and their centrist legacy. He screwed them with NAFTA, welfare reform and a host of other issues.

If a democrats would come out and be pro-gun, and want lower taxes for everyone the Republicans would lose in a heartbeat. Alas, they cannot abandon the progressive margin just as the Republicans cannot abandon the fundamentalist margin.




On the nosey.  You get it.  See, most of us are in the middle, dem or Rep.  The outer fringes however few are really loud and they get heard.  Clinton found his center and was successful, even with his shameful conduct.  GWB found his center and was successful even with his errors and faults.  Gore, Kerry, Dole, never found that center and failed.



Well said, both of you!
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:42:52 AM EDT

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Now the nation is a frying pat of terrorism and regional unrest



Is it?

Do you see it threatening to launch WMD at Israel? Do you see it threatening to mine the Persian Gulf? Do you see it threatening to invade Kuwait (again) or Saudi Arabia?

No? I wonder why?

As for terrorism, sure, they're there, but now they are being KILLED there instead of TRAINED and FUNDED there.



We're getting Afghanistan confused with Iraq again!


Like there's any difference?





Doesn't matter now anyway as we're ears deep into it now, so that said......

better over there than over here.




Exactly.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:48:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 7:49:29 AM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Actually, the true progressives (our real enemies) dislike the Clintons and their centrist legacy. He screwed them with NAFTA, welfare reform and a host of other issues.

If a democrats would come out and be pro-gun, and want lower taxes for everyone the Republicans would lose in a heartbeat. Alas, they cannot abandon the progressive margin just as the Republicans cannot abandon the fundamentalist margin.




On the nosey.  You get it.  See, most of us are in the middle, dem or Rep.  The outer fringes however few are really loud and they get heard.  Clinton found his center and was successful, even with his shameful conduct.  GWB found his center and was successful even with his errors and faults.  Gore, Kerry, Dole, never found that center and failed.



Well said, both of you!




I'm not so sure...

Dole simply didn't find ANYONE. He makes Gore look exciting. He was also up against Clinton and the entire media. BAD combination.

Gore lost...... BARELY, and there's no denying the communist little scumbag convinced more people in this country that HE was a better choice than W. (Christ, what a nightmare THAT would have been!)

sKerry was a slimy little shit, and people saw that.

I really think a large percentage of America votes for the person they think will be the best LEADER, and vote party second. Then you have the true-believers (like most of us here), who will almost die before we vote for the other side.

I think that's why Reagan was so popular: He gave so many people HOPE and something to believe in.

And if the "progressives" (read: "liberals who can't call themselves what they are") don't like Clinton, then God help us if one of them ever gets to the WH!


ETA: Also, if Dems went pro-gun and lower-taxes, they would cease to be dems, now wouldn't they?
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 8:00:40 AM EDT
I completely agree with you Zaphod, but for arguements sake....

All that hoopla about terrorists in Iraq, WMD's not being chucked into Israel, etc....

Those are all excuses, though completely rational, to justify the clusterfuck over there.

No one predicted what's going down over there....

Except the dem-heads, of course.  Those Kerry-types are talented in predicting things after they happen.

But had Bush sat in front of a crystal ball, you have to wonder if he'd have the same approach on Iraq.  We're not talking subtle changes either, but large, "do I even bother" changes.
Link Posted: 10/13/2005 9:16:43 AM EDT

Nope, he just sat around for 8 years while that nation was used as a stewpot of terrorism and regional unrest, and while hundreds of Americans were killed by terrorists, and while thousands more had their fates sealed because he wanted to indict Bin Laden rather than KILL him.


You forgot gutting the military and intelligence assets for 8 years.

Being capable of nothing more than an anemic response to deadly attacks to our military and homeland. Therefore encouraging the terrorists and giving them hope and encouragement to not only continue but to escalate their attacks.

Selling out to Red China(most favored nation status) so that they can buy up our technologies to build better weapons to use against us.


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