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Posted: 10/17/2008 7:01:14 AM EDT
I just got this sent to me saying that it was real.  I know when trail cams catch moving objects they can appear to be transparent but I don't know about this?

Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:01:56 AM EDT
[#1]
real
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:03:23 AM EDT
[#2]
HoverDeer.

Real.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:05:43 AM EDT
[#3]
no way

How can the deer's back be transparent enough to see the trees through it?
I don't think that's due to shutter speed.

Looks like the picture was composited from a photo of the deer laying down after it was shot and then pasted on a background of trees to make it look as though either the deer jumped after it was shot or in mid air. Maybe the compositor of this did take the time to make sure there was some shadow on the trees in the background from the flash.

The blood doesn't make sense. If it's spurting out - it has no 'blur', if it's flat on the deer - why (especially if this is supposed to be a mid-air shot)?

I'd take a closer look at the whole thing but at a glance it looks like a chop.

And I suppose the shooter took the pic too.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:06:22 AM EDT
[#4]
If real, what happened is the camera lens opened longer than the flash.
If the lens is open of 1/2 second, but the flash goes off for 1/100 second, it will act like a strobe and stop-motion anything moving.
But the woods aren't moving, so when the deer is gone, if the lens is still open, the trees continue to expose on the image.  Especially since it is light in the woods in this piocture.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:06:34 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
HoverDeer.


if they ever organized we'd be well and truly humped.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:06:51 AM EDT
[#6]
It's the ghost of dinner past.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:08:19 AM EDT
[#7]


This explains why it froze in mid-air.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:08:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Real.  No question.

vmax84
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:10:23 AM EDT
[#9]
real. It got hit and took a big jump which set the camera off
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:11:36 AM EDT
[#10]
I understand the exposure issue making the animal appear transparent on game cameras, but I think it's fake because of the position.  It looks to me like a someone took a pic of a dead animal on the ground and superimposed it, giving it the transparent look of a game camera.  
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:13:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Looks real to me
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:14:38 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I understand the exposure issue making the animal appear transparent on game cameras, but I think it's fake because of the position.  It looks to me like a someone took a pic of a dead animal on the ground and superimposed it, giving it the transparent look of a game camera.  

I'm no CSI but the blood appears to be gushing.

As in, at that moment.  Not a picture of dried blood, taken later.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:14:43 AM EDT
[#13]
doesnt look like a photoshop to me
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:16:41 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I understand the exposure issue making the animal appear transparent on game cameras, but I think it's fake because of the position.  It looks to me like a someone took a pic of a dead animal on the ground and superimposed it, giving it the transparent look of a game camera.  

I'm no CSI but the blood appears to be gushing.

As in, at that moment.  Not a picture of dried blood, taken later.


That's my take as well.  That blood is gushing, not dried.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:17:05 AM EDT
[#15]

 Well, I have never had an arrow only penetrate half its length into a Deer. For that matter, I never had a arrow not pass through a Deer.

 Notice the change of transparency between the Deer and the arrow/blood.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:17:32 AM EDT
[#16]
You see a photo of a transparent deer, floating in the forest, with an arrow in its chest, and you have to ask?


Of course it is real !!!


Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:17:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Look on the far left.  You can see another deer running away.  
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:18:01 AM EDT
[#18]
I've never shot a deer with a bow where the arrow didn't go all the way through.  What kind of wimpy bow would you have to shoot to get only 3-4" of penetration (at most) like that, unless maybe the arrow glanced off a tree or something (I'd expect a wierd penetration angle in that case)?

ETA:  Transparent back, wierd droopy ears... looks like a doctored shot of a dead deer superimposed on a game-cam pic to me.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:22:02 AM EDT
[#19]
I think it real, The flash hit the legs and mid body. Those parts are clear, the top half not so much. Chances are the sun was setting so the shuter speed was slow.

If it was taken on the ground blood would stream from the wound.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:22:09 AM EDT
[#20]
Those broad pointy arrow heads will go right through a deer?  Seems like you'd want it to stop at the heart, so you can easily find the arrow, and so all of the energy is expended inside the deer.

Looks very legit to me.  If someone wanted to fake it, it'd actually be tougher to make it transparent like that than it would be to simply photoshop it in as an opaque region.  And there are ways to easily do that with a camera and a running deer.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:23:38 AM EDT
[#21]
FAKE

the other deer in the far left set off the camera not this deer

I agree it is a dead deer on the ground over layed/over exposed to this photo
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:23:48 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
HoverDeer.

Real.


Great.  Now if the HoverDeer align strategically with the Bigfeet, all of us humans are DOOMED!!!
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:24:28 AM EDT
[#23]
anyone else notice the rear end of another white tail on the left side of the pic. Looks like he's unassing the AO. I say real
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:24:41 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I understand the exposure issue making the animal appear transparent on game cameras, but I think it's fake because of the position.  It looks to me like a someone took a pic of a dead animal on the ground and superimposed it, giving it the transparent look of a game camera.  

I'm no CSI but the blood appears to be gushing.

As in, at that moment.  Not a picture of dried blood, taken later.


That's my take as well.  That blood is gushing, not dried.


It looks dried to me because there are some light spots in the pool area just behind the arrow. I would think it would be covered better if blood were gushing. Also, the whole position of the body, and the ears, look like a dead animal on the ground to me.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:25:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Upon closer inspection you can see some dirt being kicked up by the front legs.  I am leaning more towards real.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:27:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Seems like he got shot while munching on corn and the jump set off the camera.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:28:38 AM EDT
[#27]
Transparent deer! Some sort of ghost?
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:29:37 AM EDT
[#28]
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:29:41 AM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:30:31 AM EDT
[#30]
The only way that could be real is if there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll and a third shooter in the manhole if front of the deer.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:31:59 AM EDT
[#31]
real !!
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:32:08 AM EDT
[#32]
Thought this was going to be a boobie quiz...
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:36:01 AM EDT
[#33]
I for one, welcome our hovering deer overlords.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:36:01 AM EDT
[#34]
arrow stopped because it hit the off side leg/shoulder bone. you can even see where it hit because on the opposite side of the deer, in line with the leg and belly line, more blood is coming out. i say again, real.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:36:14 AM EDT
[#35]
It's a real pic.

Good Shoot  
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:37:18 AM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:37:33 AM EDT
[#37]
No idea.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:37:45 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
The only way that could be real is if there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll and a third shooter in the manhole if front of the deer.


Back, and towards the left... back, and towards the left.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:38:45 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Looks real to me
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:39:11 AM EDT
[#40]
I never had a dead with it's ears layed back like that. I vote for real.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:39:13 AM EDT
[#41]
I'd guess fake.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:39:49 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Those broad pointy arrow heads will go right through a deer?  Seems like you'd want it to stop at the heart, so you can easily find the arrow, and so all of the energy is expended inside the deer.

Looks very legit to me.  If someone wanted to fake it, it'd actually be tougher to make it transparent like that than it would be to simply photoshop it in as an opaque region.  And there are ways to easily do that with a camera and a running deer.


 An arrow does not kill by energy transfer, it kills by hemorrhage. The more penetration you get, the more damage is caused, that's why a pass through is preferable. Look at the area of impact, it's above the heart and not deep enough for serious arterial damage in the lung/liver area. Heart hit sprays, lung hit sprays, liver hit bleeds a lot, just not gushing.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:40:39 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
My vote is fake - the pose of the deer looks more like it came from a photo of a deer lying on the ground, and not a deer in motion.



Have you ever shot a deer? Animals move in funny ways when they get shot.
Also what set off the camera? The deer tail to the far right? The deer muscle is also very prominent. Not a dead at lifeless relaxed animal.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:43:03 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
arrow stopped because it hit the off side leg/shoulder bone. you can even see where it hit because on the opposite side of the deer, in line with the leg and belly line, more blood is coming out. i say again, real.


 Too much arrow showing...........
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:45:59 AM EDT
[#45]
obviously fake
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:46:13 AM EDT
[#46]
Fake, too transparent in the back region.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:46:33 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
I just got this sent to me saying that it was real.  I know when trail cams catch moving objects they can appear to be transparent but I don't know about this?

img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/APSU/Trailcampic.jpg


No shadow of arrow, Fake.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:46:44 AM EDT
[#48]
I say real.  The 2nd deer in the pic did not set off the camera.  This is a Cuddeback.  It would have taken the pic long before the deer got that far away.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:47:36 AM EDT
[#49]
But why would you bother to adjust the opacity on part of the deer if you photoshopped it? If it was photoshopped from a dead deer, there would be no point in doing that. I'll run some stuff on it later and see if it's got any cloning or double compression in it.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 7:47:54 AM EDT
[#50]
No breasts... :(
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