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Posted: 10/2/2014 8:06:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2014 8:09:33 PM EST by FrankDrebin]
So how do they keep like 5 guys each dressed like Stonewall Jackson from showing up to the same event?

It seems like everyone would want to be Stonewall Jackson or maybe Sherman.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:11:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
So how do they keep like 5 Stonewall Jackson's from showing up to the same event?

It seems like everyone would want to be Stonewall Jackson or maybe Sherman.
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Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:12:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:


Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.
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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
So how do they keep like 5 Stonewall Jackson's from showing up to the same event?

It seems like everyone would want to be Stonewall Jackson or maybe Sherman.


Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.


Thanks. That's why I love this place. Post an obscure question and get an answer.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:16:02 PM EST
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:17:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By flyhack72:
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.
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+1
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:20:22 PM EST
I went to one last weekend. Only the Yankees showed up so it wasn't much of a war.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:21:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:


Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.
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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
So how do they keep like 5 Stonewall Jackson's from showing up to the same event?

It seems like everyone would want to be Stonewall Jackson or maybe Sherman.


Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.


This. I'm in a Authentic Campaigner Group (called a Mess) that is made up of Privates, Corporals, and Sargeants. We have one Company Officer, a Lt. He sometimes gets paid a bounty to portray a certain personality, his being Gen. PTG Beauregard. There is always some guy who shows up in a polyester rental general outfit, he is ignored or kicked out by event staff. The Campaigner events that are closed to the public are the most realistic and give the feeling off almost being there with my ancestors, of course without being maimed or killed.
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Originally Posted By Hammbone:
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We had that same problem a couple weeks ago. Only the Feds showed. I had to galvanize (without complaining).

You die when you have a weapon stoppage or run out of powder, your unit is assigned to take casualties at a specific point, or you are pissed off at the event's suckiness and don't want to waste good powder on this farb parade bullshit.

The trick is the smart muck crunchers die in the shade when it's hot...
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Originally Posted By flyhack72:
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.
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Taking a hit usually occurs at one's personal discretion. At some events, the unit CO will hand out ID cards of participants of the actual battle including a description of what happened to them during the fight, and you follow that :script". Other times the CO will order his unit to "start taking hits" in order to either thrill the spectators ("Ham & Jam" festivals), or to more accurately depict events as they happened.

Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:28:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hammbone:
I went to one last weekend. Only the Yankees showed up so it wasn't much of a war.
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Where at?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:28:55 PM EST
My reenactor character had MY name---history is weird right...go back to the records and there's my name!!! and you die when you are supposed to...it's is scripted and some deaths are quite dramatic........
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:31:11 PM EST
I was at an event one time, it was super hot, (like always). During the days battle all the casualties were hit in the shade, weird coincidence.
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:


This. I'm in a Authentic Campaigner Group (called a Mess) that is made up of Privates, Corporals, and Sargeants. We have one Company Officer, a Lt. He sometimes gets paid a bounty to portray a certain personality, his being Gen. PTG Beauregard. There is always some guy who shows up in a polyester rental general outfit, he is ignored or kicked out by event staff. The Campaigner events that are closed to the public are the most realistic and give the feeling off almost being there with my ancestors, of course without being maimed or killed.
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
So how do they keep like 5 Stonewall Jackson's from showing up to the same event?

It seems like everyone would want to be Stonewall Jackson or maybe Sherman.


Super nerd here, checking in.....

Typically individuals portraying specific personalities are invited to certain events by the organizers. If someone shows up unauthorized to portray said personality they are asked to leave. Honestly, its not a real problem except at the small scale "Ham & Jam" festivals. At quality "Campaigner" style events you don't have people portraying individual personalities unless they are portraying certain individuals in the rank and file of a unit. Then only in order to recreate a sense of history and connection to the actual events for the reenactor himself.


This. I'm in a Authentic Campaigner Group (called a Mess) that is made up of Privates, Corporals, and Sargeants. We have one Company Officer, a Lt. He sometimes gets paid a bounty to portray a certain personality, his being Gen. PTG Beauregard. There is always some guy who shows up in a polyester rental general outfit, he is ignored or kicked out by event staff. The Campaigner events that are closed to the public are the most realistic and give the feeling off almost being there with my ancestors, of course without being maimed or killed.



What unit are you with?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:38:36 PM EST
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Greasy Peaches Mess, Formerly the Cowbell Mess.

Indy units:
West
30th Mississippi Infantry, Company K
5th Iowa Volunteer Infantry, Company B
CSMC Company D, Mississippi River Det.
We tend to travel with Blue-gray or Cleburne's Div.
East
49th Virginia Infantry, Company A (Wife's Ancestor was a 3rd Sgt in this unit)
Any good Ohio Infantry/Dismounted Cavalry who needs a hand


ETA: We temporarily adopted the 9th Minnesota Infantry for the 150th Brices Crossroads back in June. If you can find a Fed OOB enjoy a good laugh.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:38:59 PM EST
I haven't done it in like 10 years, anybody else go to the 96 Gettysburg? That was the elephant.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:45:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By flyhack72:
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.
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Some guys just don't want to go down...even when they're hit with lightning bolts.

Reenactors
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:51:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By flyhack72:
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.
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Not all the time. Occasionally someone loads a real projectile. Like this goofy frecnh guy that supposedly wanted to get the full experience.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-07-09/news/9807100342_1_reenactment-accidental-shooting-civil-war

http://www.civilwarnews.com/archive/articles/reenactor_shot.htm

There have been a number of other accidents

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2094737/posts
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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:


Taking a hit usually occurs at one's personal discretion. At some events, the unit CO will hand out ID cards of participants of the actual battle including a description of what happened to them during the fight, and you follow that :script". Other times the CO will order his unit to "start taking hits" in order to either thrill the spectators ("Ham & Jam" festivals), or to more accurately depict events as they happened.

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Originally Posted By KentuckyCapitalist:
Originally Posted By flyhack72:
What I want to know is:

How do you know when you die? Or is it like GI Joe where there's lots of shots fired but nobody dies.


Taking a hit usually occurs at one's personal discretion. At some events, the unit CO will hand out ID cards of participants of the actual battle including a description of what happened to them during the fight, and you follow that :script". Other times the CO will order his unit to "start taking hits" in order to either thrill the spectators ("Ham & Jam" festivals), or to more accurately depict events as they happened.



That makes sense. Thanks
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 8:53:28 PM EST
I was also at an event, after the sat battle the rebs were giving us shit about not going down, so on Sunday, the second shot from a cannon, the whole regiment felldead at once, there was complete silence, then the rebs hooted and cheered for an hour. It was a small event.
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I was also at an event, after the sat battle the rebs were giving us shit about not going down, so on Sunday, the second shot from a cannon, the whole regiment felldead at once, there was complete silence, then the rebs hooted and cheered for an hour. It was a small event.
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Haha sounds like a good time.

I would love to do Cavalry re-enactments. If you have your own horse do they let you, or is there a rank system you have to go through?

(I understand all units may not be the same). They do re-enactments right up the road from me every year, but I have never joined a unit.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 9:08:58 PM EST
I (wrongly) thought it was a great idea to go to the Olustee Re-enactment for Valentine's day many years ago. HaHa - I know, now. The grays seemed to fall very close to each other - since you have to be dead for 30-60 minutes, you might as well be close enough to chat with your dead brother in arms.......
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Haha sounds like a good time.

I would love to do Cavalry re-enactments. If you have your own horse do they let you, or is there a rank system you have to go through?

(I understand all units may not be the same). They do re-enactments right up the road from me every year, but I have never joined a unit.
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Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
I was also at an event, after the sat battle the rebs were giving us shit about not going down, so on Sunday, the second shot from a cannon, the whole regiment felldead at once, there was complete silence, then the rebs hooted and cheered for an hour. It was a small event.



Haha sounds like a good time.

I would love to do Cavalry re-enactments. If you have your own horse do they let you, or is there a rank system you have to go through?

(I understand all units may not be the same). They do re-enactments right up the road from me every year, but I have never joined a unit.


Oh, so you want to be a saber clinker?

Most cav units require Coggins testing and other things before they will let you (and your horse) in.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 9:26:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
I haven't done it in like 10 years, anybody else go to the 96 Gettysburg? That was the elephant.

I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.


Pussy.

We did Fed Infantry at Brices Crossroads in June. It wasn't hot, it was Africa Hot while we ran uphill at the double quick trying to keep up with the cav guys. Then we slept in a chigger nest. Yeah, that event sucked ass for my mess.
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Oh, so you want to be a saber clinker?

Most cav units require Coggins testing and other things before they will let you (and your horse) in.
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Originally Posted By Willmar:
Originally Posted By _DR:
Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
I was also at an event, after the sat battle the rebs were giving us shit about not going down, so on Sunday, the second shot from a cannon, the whole regiment felldead at once, there was complete silence, then the rebs hooted and cheered for an hour. It was a small event.



Haha sounds like a good time.

I would love to do Cavalry re-enactments. If you have your own horse do they let you, or is there a rank system you have to go through?

(I understand all units may not be the same). They do re-enactments right up the road from me every year, but I have never joined a unit.


Oh, so you want to be a saber clinker?

Most cav units require Coggins testing and other things before they will let you (and your horse) in.


Coggins testing? Makes sense, at any horse event.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 9:31:27 PM EST
I've only actually been to one of those things, but only a few guys came dressed as officers. Seemed like the majority of them were fully content to dress as enlisted men and model how utterly plain the clothing of that era was.
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 9:32:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.
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Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
I haven't done it in like 10 years, anybody else go to the 96 Gettysburg? That was the elephant.

I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.


Just like the real battle, eh?

(Very hot).
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I had an Army buddy that did them before he enlisted. He said you could tell who was hung over because they'd fall when the first shot rang out.
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I've never been but my great friend (RIP, Joe) and his wife participated at the Olustee events. He said that on Sat they do it by the history. On Sun it's a free-for-all. Not sure how that works.
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

While it was warm during the real battle, I believe it was a bit hotter for the 125th.
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By DirkericPitt:
I haven't done it in like 10 years, anybody else go to the 96 Gettysburg? That was the elephant.

I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.


Just like the real battle, eh?

(Very hot).

While it was warm during the real battle, I believe it was a bit hotter for the 125th.



Of course there were real projectiles being fired back in the day - so that might be the difference?
Link Posted: 10/2/2014 9:52:06 PM EST
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Good reenactors take their hits. "Nobody dying" is a sign of newbies and farbs.
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I took part in the 125th at Gettysburg. It was hot enough that I never did another.
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Ah yes. I was there, defending the "copse of trees" from Pickett's Charge.

My reenacting career spanned most of the 125th events, from 1986-89. First with the 12th New Hampshire and then with the 3rd U.S. regulars (Day's Brigade).

Regarding heat, Gettysburg wasn't so bad. The worst for me was the 125th Battle of the Petersburg Crater, when I avoided heat stroke by emptying an entire canteen of water over my head. That was my last CW event.

After that, I branched out into Rev War, WWI, and WWII. I needed excuses to collect all the neat stuff. Scratch a reenactor, and you will find a collector underneath.
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I've only actually been to one of those things, but only a few guys came dressed as officers. Seemed like the majority of them were fully content to dress as enlisted men and model how utterly plain the clothing of that era was.
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Alot of units are actually non-profit orgs, they elect their board, then elect a field commander and other officers depending on the size of the unit. My dad was very big in it in the 80s. Pretty sure at one point he commanded 8000 federals at some large events, marched his unit (mudsills) in some presidential inaugural parades.

They were the only non-government org to have live firearms, he was talking to a secret security guy going over when and where they could do certain arms positions, he asked what would happen if someone did point a musket at the pres, the agent smiled and said, "uzi's are very indiscriminate."
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