Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login

Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Posted: 4/14/2006 9:42:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 9:51:55 AM EST by LWilde]
Without going into the reasons for the possible loss of Congress and the White House to the Democrats in the next two elections, I would like to share some of my crystal ball insight and my personal plans to prepare for just such a disaster.

1. The Senate and House Committees on the Judiciary will open impeachment hearings.

2. The tax laws will be changed and the Bush tax laws repealed. Our taxes will go way up.

3. The Kyoto Protocol will be signed. The ramifications to American businesses will be stunning.

4. The Missile Defense Program will be reduced to a low level of RDT&E again, as it was during the Clinton Administration. The programmed deployment of ABMs will be terminated [indefinitely] until more "research" can be done.

5. The troops will begin to leave Iraq immediately. Iraq will quickly turn into a cesspool of anarchy. Iran will invade to put a stop to the upheaval. A Shi'ite theocracy puppet state will be installed and the new Iran, with her nuclear weapons will become the giant new powerful caliphate in the Middle East and a world power to be reckoned with.

6. The DoD budget will be slashed. Many formerly "safe" programs will go away...as will their jobs.

7. The Welfare State will be re-invigorated. What has been a VERY successful program of moving people off of welfare will be reversed. This is in order to create more poor people wholly dependent on the state...and thus more Democrats.

8. Health care for all will be introduced. Possibly built on the Massachusetts' paradigm, the system will ensure that all Americans, all indigents and all illegals will be provided free medical care for life. You and I will pay for this largess.

9. A new and far more comprehensive and draconian Assault Weapons Ban will be introduced. If it is black, evil looking and can fire more rounds per minute than your .50cal Hawken, it will be banned and THIS time, the Dems won't make the same mistakes they made last time. THIS law will be built on the Massachusettes and Kalifornistan models. NO loopholes whatsoever. JBTs will be kicking in our doors and confiscating our guns for sure.

10. The unions will see a resurgence, as will the inept public schools and stupid socialist programs nationwide. Steppin Fetchits will once again be delivering ice in buckets to liberal Democrats at their offices and once again, the capital elevators will have operators...even though they have been automated for decades. Democrats LOVE having slaves. They take such fine care of them.

11. The "Fairness Doctrine" will be re-introduced. This is a sine-quo-non of Democratic resurgence. They KNOW that unless they can muzzle conservative talk radio, they will always be at risk of having their "shortcomings" revealed. This above all was the majore reason conservative thought and ideals was available to the public in a mass media format. Heretofore, we only had liberal media outlets and our minds were poisoned with liberal propaganda.

Now...what to do? Well, if the election results look like a disaster for the Republicans, I for one intend to do the following:

A. I will restructure my portfolio to reflect investments in programs near and dear to liberals...such as "alternative" energy.

B. I will purchase as much ammo as possible and as many EBRs as I can before the ax falls.

C. I will carefully review our personal profligate spending and of necessity have much more withheld to allow for my vastly increased tax liability. Think back to the Clintons' worst years.

D. I will prepare more for the coming armageddon brought on by the pacificist appeasers then inhabiting the halls of congress and the West Wing.


This is NOT meant to be a reflection on the status of the Bush administration. I am NOT suggesting that this change will most certainly happen and I'm not trying to open a thread on that subject. I am merely trying to open a discussion on how our lives will change IF the Democratic Party regains power in Washington DC...and what are YOUR intentions if the enemy successfully storms the gates of Freedom?

All in all...I will be a very unhappy person. I believe our lives will change radically...and not necessarily for the better.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:44:34 AM EST
I'm moving to mexico.


afterall, there oughta be lotsa land available, since the remaining mexicans would be coming here.


Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:47:50 AM EST
SCARY! But VERY plausible. If the power turns in this nation we will be a police state in short order.
I am TERRIFIED of the prospect of a Dem. like Clinton having patriot act powers. Gun owners will be labeled as possible threats or outright terrorists
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:51:25 AM EST
I don't know about number 11 but I'd say the other 10 points are a pretty good bet.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:51:35 AM EST
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:58:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.



Good question....Who's fault indeed?

1. Corrupt Republicans who forgot what got them to Congress and lost their moral compass.

2. A Republican administration that forgot it was elected by CONSERVATIVES! They lost their way and began spending like Democrats.

3. A Republican administration that favored rewarding their big donors and party hacks over putting the best and brightest bureaucrat into critical gubmint jobs.

4. Lying Democrats and their willing accomplices in the mainstream media. Democrats to whom regaining power is more important than saving our country.

5. Fools like us...asleep at the switch in November...and stay home in numbers large enough to allow the Democrats to win.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:58:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.



+1, good and most obvious point.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:01:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By arfreak74:
I'm moving to mexico.


afterall, there oughta be lotsa land available, since the remaining mexicans would be coming here.





not really, theyll just up the child production 80%...
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:16:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By LWilde:
B. I will purchase as much ammo as possible and as many EBRs as I can before the ax falls.



Good idea.

One day in the future the .gov will begin to ban and confiscate firearms. They'll start with machineguns, and move on down into scary looking ones next. The media will buy into their hype and states will pass anti-firearm laws as well, all of these often enforced by the .gov's legislative/executive BATFE. They'll demonize other things too, like drugs and Arabs. They'll turn both of these concerning issues into news that is not only concerning, it's apocalyptic. The new fears inbred into the populace will lead to massive legislation to restrict our other freedoms, our 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment rights. The .gov will be ninja-like in their trickery and will seem benevolent in their actions. They're only trying to protect us from guns, drugs, terrorists, nazis and fascists. If they're smart they'll bring up the children in their propaganda. Say it's all "For the Children".

One day that's gonna happen, and we'll need all the assault rifles we can get our eager hands on. We'll put a stop to it before it gets to all that.

Oh, wait.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:37:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By arfreak74:
I'm moving to mexico.



I'm just going to sit back and laugh............and keep shouting "I told you so!"
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:50:28 AM EST
This had to be said.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:52:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By LWilde:
3. The Kyoto Protocol will be signed. The ramifications to American businesses will be stunning.



Sorry, not gonna happen. With Clinton in office and supporting the Kyoto Protocols Treaty, and a Democratic majority in the Senate, the Senate still voted down Kyoto NINETY EIGHT to TWO.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:58:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By LWilde:
3. The Kyoto Protocol will be signed. The ramifications to American businesses will be stunning.



Sorry, not gonna happen. With Clinton in office and supporting the Kyoto Protocols Treaty, and a Democratic majority in the Senate, the Senate still voted down Kyoto NINETY EIGHT to TWO.



Gotta agree. No chance.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:09:19 AM EST
tag
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:10:42 AM EST
What are yall talking about. I was in the middle of loading mags.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:12:24 AM EST
tag
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:12:49 AM EST
You make good points. I will be stocking up on some items if I don't like what I'm seeing prior to midterm elections.

Mike
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:17:23 AM EST

5. The troops will begin to leave Iraq immediately. Iraq will quickly turn into a cesspool of anarchy. Iran will invade to put a stop to the upheaval. A Shi'ite theocracy puppet state will be installed and the new Iran, with her nuclear weapons will become the giant new powerful caliphate in the Middle East and a world power to be reckoned with.


Going to happen as soon as we leave unless we neuter Iran first. The only thing stopping Iraq from becoming a Theocracy aligned with Iran in the first place was Saddam Hussein. We knew it. Why do you think Bush sr. Left him in power?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:27:03 AM EST
9. A new and far more comprehensive and draconian Assault Weapons Ban will be introduced. If it is black, evil looking and can fire more rounds per minute than your .50cal Hawken, it will be banned and THIS time, the Dems won't make the same mistakes they made last time. THIS law will be built on the Massachusettes and Kalifornistan models. NO loopholes whatsoever. JBTs will be kicking in our doors and confiscating our guns for sure.

Good, bring it on, let's get this settled once and for all.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:31:23 AM EST
.50 cal Hawken! That’s a terrible weapon you can take down a plane with a .50 cal! Look at the gun laws of New Jersey and Massachusetts. That were we will be heading. But you will be able to drive drunk into a river with your girlfriend and not have to report it until you sober up.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:40:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.




Sorry, but I decided to vote AGAINST the Repub's way before
the immigration thing hit the radar.

I've come full circle. I used to be a republican, then I became independent
and still often vote repub because of the lessor of two evils thing. But now
I am out to vote them, R's, out of office. At lease the Dem's never lied to me. The
Repub's have been doing so for years. Besides they play a much better
defense than offense.

We're all gonna have to get a new hobby it seems.


Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:42:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 11:43:38 AM EST by Chimpy]

Originally Posted By chas_martel:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.




Sorry, but I decided to vote AGAINST the Repub's way before
the immigration thing hit the radar.


I've come full circle. I used to be a republican, then I became independent
and still often vote repub because of the lessor of two evils thing. But now
I am out to vote them, R's, out of office. At lease the Dem's never lied to me. The
Repub's have been doing so for years. Besides they play a much better
defense than offense.

We're all gonna have to get a new hobby it seems.



So..... if you threw your vote independant, then you gave an advantage to the democrats, who are the worse of two evils.

And... who didn't have sexual relations with who?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:44:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chimpy:
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.




Yep.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:45:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By markmars:
.50 cal Hawken! That’s a terrible weapon you can take down a plane with a .50 cal! Look at the gun laws of New Jersey and Massachusetts. That were we will be heading. But you will be able to drive drunk into a river with your girlfriend and not have to report it until you sober up.



Or even get drunk and shoot your buddiy in the face and not report it till you sober up
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:48:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 11:51:55 AM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By LWilde:
Good question....Who's fault indeed?
5. Fools like us...asleep at the switch in November...and stay home in numbers large enough to allow the Democrats to win.


All power ULTIMATELY resides with the people.

If you dont exercise that power - "others" will.

Have You Contacted Your Senators Today???

CAPITOL TOLL-FREE SWITCHBOARD: (888) 355-3588
Call Your Senators & Representatives TODAY - 24hr line.






TALKING POINTS:

*** Tell them THEY WILL LOSE CONTROL OF CONGRESS if they support legalizing illegal aliens!!!

*** Tell your Senators that the illegals are rushing the border NOW in anticipation of a "guest-worker" plan passing the Senate!

*** Tell your Senators to vote NO on ANY "guest worker" plan allowing illegal aliens to remain here!

*** Stand up for the rule of law!

*** Secure our border NOW!

*** Do NOT reward law-breakers while HONEST immigrants follow the rules, pass the medical tests, pay their dues and wait patiently for years for the PRIVILEGE to work here!

*** Do NOT fall for the big lie that Americans won't work basic-skill jobs!

*** Americans DID all these jobs before there were 15 million illegal aliens working for sub-minimum wage!

*** Illegal immigrants AND the employers that hire them are keeping wages for these jobs too low and THAT is a crime against ALL low-income Americans and HONEST immigrants!

*** Defend our borders and punish law-breakers - both illegal immigrants AND those that hire them!

*** We are a sovereign nation that follows the rule of law, not the will of screaming law-breakers marching under another nation's flag!

*** VOTE NO ON ANY "GUEST-WORKER" PLAN FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!

*** VOTE YES ON REAL BORDER SECURITY!!!



* US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Locate And Contact YOUR Representative HERE.

* HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Congressman John Boehner, R-OH

DC (202) 225-6205
OH (513) 779-5400

* US SENATE: Locate And Contact YOUR Senators HERE.

* SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Sen. Bill Frist, R-TN

DC (202)224-3344
TN (615)352-9411


Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:48:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.



Hardly....


Keep voting for the "lesser evil" and eventually that evil isn't so "lesser", huh?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:59:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By LWilde:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.



Good question....Who's fault indeed?

1. Corrupt Republicans who forgot what got them to Congress and lost their moral compass.

2. A Republican administration that forgot it was elected by CONSERVATIVES! They lost their way and began spending like Democrats.

3. A Republican administration that favored rewarding their big donors and party hacks over putting the best and brightest bureaucrat into critical gubmint jobs.

4. Lying Democrats and their willing accomplices in the mainstream media. Democrats to whom regaining power is more important than saving our country.

5. Fools like us...asleep at the switch in November...and stay home in numbers large enough to allow the Democrats to win.



I would point out you would be the dumb one for voting in Republicans for a third time at the plate. I want a viable third party. I am a slightly left leaning civil libertarian.

Right now I have two choices:

Vote Republican, a party who will allow me to keep my firearms but otherwise go against almost all of my other beliefs.

Vote Democrat, a party who shares many of my social beliefs but doesn't have a large interest on the national level of keeping my firearms.

The LP has a good idea, but they take it to an extreme which will never allow them to get elected. Politics isn't black and white, it's shades of grey. Until they understand that they will never succeed.

The most I can wish for is having Feingold become elected in 2008 while Congress remains almost 50/50 to keep it at deadlock. Contrary to most beliefs, Feingold isn't your typical Democrat or insane left wing person either. He voted against renewing the AWB, against the patriot act and has a sincere interest in following the Constitution and upholding civil liberties.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:06:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Contrary to most beliefs, Feingold isn't your typical Democrat or insane left wing person either. He voted against renewing the AWB, against the patriot act and has a sincere interest in following the Constitution and upholding civil liberties.



WTF are YOU smoking?

He was the CO_AUTHOR of the McCain-Feingold Amendmend which SHITS ALL OVER the FIRST Amendment!
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:28:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Contrary to most beliefs, Feingold isn't your typical Democrat or insane left wing person either. He voted against renewing the AWB, against the patriot act and has a sincere interest in following the Constitution and upholding civil liberties.



WTF are YOU smoking?

He was the CO_AUTHOR of the McCain-Feingold Amendmend which SHITS ALL OVER the FIRST Amendment!



The Supreme Court didn't think so.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:33:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Chimpy:

Originally Posted By chas_martel:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.




Sorry, but I decided to vote AGAINST the Repub's way before
the immigration thing hit the radar.


I've come full circle. I used to be a republican, then I became independent
and still often vote repub because of the lessor of two evils thing. But now
I am out to vote them, R's, out of office. At lease the Dem's never lied to me. The
Repub's have been doing so for years. Besides they play a much better
defense than offense.

We're all gonna have to get a new hobby it seems.



So..... if you threw your vote independant, then you gave an advantage to the democrats, who are the worse of two evils.

And... who didn't have sexual relations with who?




Chimpy, at this point the issue is not voting independent and throwing a vote to the Dems,
I am gonna vote for Dems. Screw the Republicans, they had their decade and look what they
did with it. Bigger police state, quagmire in Iraq, spending outta control. etc etc

Take Iraq for example, we have no business "nation building". We should have bombed
the middle east and then high tailed it outta there. But nooooooo, the repub's want
everyone to like them, so they come up with the stupid nation building angle. that is
BS!

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:45:16 PM EST
Assuming there is a presidential race in 2008. (not gauranteed im thinking martial law after a real or manufactured terrorist incident) You can still vote republican and not have a RHINO.
Ron Paul comes to mind. If the republicans split up Look for some real leaders there.
I think the time is ripe for a third party. And all those Whining about wasted votes and enabling democrats. Its a fallacious argument.

You could actually say that by splitting the democratic vote Nader helped GWB get into office. Its a fact. Why do you think republicans where donating to Nader in 2004
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:46:28 PM EST
LANSING, Mich. - Michigan Republicans are helping gather signatures to place independent Ralph Nader on the presidential ballot in the battleground state, irritating Democrats who accuse the GOP of trying to pull votes away from candidate John Kerry.
"It's another example of state Republicans willing to try every unethical trick in the book to hold power," Democratic Executive Chairman Mark Brewer said Thursday. "This clearly shows that a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote to re-elect George Bush. The Republicans know that, and that's why they are desperate to have Nader on the Michigan ballot."

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 1:02:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By mytwocents:
Assuming there is a presidential race in 2008. (not gauranteed im thinking martial law after a real or manufactured terrorist incident)





Good God, you're nuttier than a case of pecans.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 1:16:15 PM EST

9. A new and far more comprehensive and draconian Assault Weapons Ban will be introduced. If it is black, evil looking and can fire more rounds per minute than your .50cal Hawken, it will be banned and THIS time, the Dems won't make the same mistakes they made last time. THIS law will be built on the Massachusettes and Kalifornistan models. NO loopholes whatsoever. JBTs will be kicking in our doors and confiscating our guns for sure.




BBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 1:17:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Contrary to most beliefs, Feingold isn't your typical Democrat or insane left wing person either. He voted against renewing the AWB, against the patriot act and has a sincere interest in following the Constitution and upholding civil liberties.



WTF are YOU smoking?

He was the CO_AUTHOR of the McCain-Feingold Amendmend which SHITS ALL OVER the FIRST Amendment!



The Supreme Court didn't think so.



They were/are wrong.

So, since they didn't think so , you're fine with that, huh?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 1:25:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Contrary to most beliefs, Feingold isn't your typical Democrat or insane left wing person either. He voted against renewing the AWB, against the patriot act and has a sincere interest in following the Constitution and upholding civil liberties.



WTF are YOU smoking?

He was the CO_AUTHOR of the McCain-Feingold Amendmend which SHITS ALL OVER the FIRST Amendment!



The Supreme Court didn't think so.



They thought the Dread Scot case was great too.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 1:25:51 PM EST
All the Democrats need to do to win the next few elections is keep their mouths shut.

How likely is THAT ?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:20:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dragracer_Art:
All the Democrats need to do to win the next few elections is keep their mouths shut.

How likely is THAT ?



Good point.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:31:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By chas_martel:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.




Sorry, but I decided to vote AGAINST the Repub's way before
the immigration thing hit the radar.

I've come full circle. I used to be a republican, then I became independent
and still often vote repub because of the lessor of two evils thing. But now
I am out to vote them, R's, out of office. At lease the Dem's never lied to me. The
Repub's have been doing so for years. Besides they play a much better
defense than offense.

We're all gonna have to get a new hobby it seems.





Freedom isn't a hobby. Give your guns to someone with some real balls your wasting yours.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:33:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By chas_martel:
At lease the Dem's never lied to me.




I've read a lot of stupid shit on this site. Make that a LOT of stupid shit.

But this has to be the dumbest of them all.

Refresh my memory, which president recently went through impeachement proceedings for lying under oath to a Grand Jury?

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:36:24 PM EST
My thoughts:


Originally Posted By LWilde:
1. The Senate and House Committees on the Judiciary will open impeachment hearings.



Impeachment hearings won't happen, the worst that will be done is censure. If the Democrats do gain control of the House and Senate, they will try to consolidate power and gain a Demo President in 08. They won't worry about impeachment, as Bush won't be able to do much anyway, and they want to be percieved as middle of the road, not far left.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
2. The tax laws will be changed and the Bush tax laws repealed. Our taxes will go way up.



Doubtful. There may be more taxes levied on certain items (gas, vehicles, sin taxes, etc), which will add up, but the American public is reaching the point where any significant raises in taxes will lead to problems. The government will view the problems as not worth the effort.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
3. The Kyoto Protocol will be signed. The ramifications to American businesses will be stunning.



As others have already stated, I also believe the Kyoto Protocal is finished, no matter who is in office.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
5. The troops will begin to leave Iraq immediately. Iraq will quickly turn into a cesspool of anarchy. Iran will invade to put a stop to the upheaval. A Shi'ite theocracy puppet state will be installed and the new Iran, with her nuclear weapons will become the giant new powerful caliphate in the Middle East and a world power to be reckoned with.



No matter what happens, when we leave Iraq it will be screwed. "Democracy" there will only last until we are gone from there. I figure it will devolve into 3 seperate areas, which bleed each other for a bit then Iran will gobble up one of them.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
6. The DoD budget will be slashed. Many formerly "safe" programs will go away...as will their jobs.



I don't think they will cut much in the way of military spending, as they want to be seen as protecting the country.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
7. The Welfare State will be re-invigorated. What has been a VERY successful program of moving people off of welfare will be reversed. This is in order to create more poor people wholly dependent on the state...and thus more Democrats.



Probably, yet the people who abuse welfare and use it instead of working aren't really worthwhile Americans anyway. Just another reason for the middle class to complain and do nothing but watch TV and eat themselves to death.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
8. Health care for all will be introduced. Possibly built on the Massachusetts' paradigm, the system will ensure that all Americans, all indigents and all illegals will be provided free medical care for life. You and I will pay for this largess.



It doesn't matter if the Republicans, or Democrats, or Libertarians, or Martians are in control of the government, National Health Care is coming.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
9. A new and far more comprehensive and draconian Assault Weapons Ban will be introduced. If it is black, evil looking and can fire more rounds per minute than your .50cal Hawken, it will be banned and THIS time, the Dems won't make the same mistakes they made last time. THIS law will be built on the Massachusettes and Kalifornistan models. NO loopholes whatsoever. JBTs will be kicking in our doors and confiscating our guns for sure.



Doubtful, many Democrats found that gun control is a losing cause for them so will keep quit about it. The 2nd Amendment has been restricted about as much as it can be, any more gun control laws will cause more problems then they are worth. Republicans are for gun control also.


Originally Posted By LWilde:
10. The unions will see a resurgence, as will the inept public schools and stupid socialist programs nationwide. Steppin Fetchits will once again be delivering ice in buckets to liberal Democrats at their offices and once again, the capital elevators will have operators...even though they have been automated for decades. Democrats LOVE having slaves. They take such fine care of them.



Unions will not see a resurgance, unless working conditions deteriorate. Right to work, OSHA, and other things have destroyed the union powerbase, and it will never return. What you will see eventually are more specialized unions (like trade unions).

I think worrying about what the "Democrats" will do blinds many to the true problems our country faces with our government. Republicans and Democrats are the same, even though they try to mislead you into believing they are different. Both parties are run by and for special interest groups. Both political parties will restrict your rights, and will lead this country down a path to socialism.

Our country has been reinvented and revolutionized more then half a dozen times, each time citizen rights are lost and the government gains power. Here is a fond farewell to America the 8th restricted though it was, and a hello to America the 9th, new and improved with less freedom and more governmental power.

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:37:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.


More to the point, it will be the Republicans' fault because they squandered almost six solid years of a stranglehold on political power in Washington DC.

That will be the reason, not just this amnest bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:38:13 PM EST


Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By mytwocents:
Assuming there is a presidential race in 2008. (not gauranteed im thinking martial law after a real or manufactured terrorist incident)





Good God, you're nuttier than a case of pecans.


Bro, that is some funny shit, never herd that one before.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:40:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.




Sucks to know that re-election is top priority, not what is best for the Nation.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:41:29 PM EST
We are going to most likely have McCain or Gulliani on a GOP ticket or a Hitlery or other Lib. Either way we are screwed. The GOP IS the problem they are certainly NOT the solution.

For everyone who says a 3rd party is wasting your vote: if you vote GOP you are wasting your future. GOP and DEM end up at a police state. In one you own your cage the other the state does choose fascism or socialism. Sure the GOP will let you keep your firearms. Big deal they know we don't have the balls to use them. The DEM's simply hate them and I say let the DEM's take power; at least they will start the damn war by trying to take the guns. They think with their emotions not their heads and it is bad strategy in a nation of 75 million gun owners. Then we can decide this. Vote GOP and you just wither and die on the vine. Let them bring the fight.

You are deluding yourself if you think that the GOP is going to follow the constitution. NOW is the time for a 3rd party. Sure the libs will take over for awhile anyway. Nothing good is ever free.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:41:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By LWilde:
Good question....Who's fault indeed?
5. Fools like us...asleep at the switch in November...and stay home in numbers large enough to allow the Democrats to win.


All power ULTIMATELY resides with the people.

If you dont exercise that power - "others" will.

Have You Contacted Your Senators Today???

CAPITOL TOLL-FREE SWITCHBOARD: (888) 355-3588
Call Your Senators & Representatives TODAY - 24hr line.






TALKING POINTS:

*** Tell them THEY WILL LOSE CONTROL OF CONGRESS if they support legalizing illegal aliens!!!

*** Tell your Senators that the illegals are rushing the border NOW in anticipation of a "guest-worker" plan passing the Senate!

*** Tell your Senators to vote NO on ANY "guest worker" plan allowing illegal aliens to remain here!

*** Stand up for the rule of law!

*** Secure our border NOW!

*** Do NOT reward law-breakers while HONEST immigrants follow the rules, pass the medical tests, pay their dues and wait patiently for years for the PRIVILEGE to work here!

*** Do NOT fall for the big lie that Americans won't work basic-skill jobs!

*** Americans DID all these jobs before there were 15 million illegal aliens working for sub-minimum wage!

*** Illegal immigrants AND the employers that hire them are keeping wages for these jobs too low and THAT is a crime against ALL low-income Americans and HONEST immigrants!

*** Defend our borders and punish law-breakers - both illegal immigrants AND those that hire them!

*** We are a sovereign nation that follows the rule of law, not the will of screaming law-breakers marching under another nation's flag!

*** VOTE NO ON ANY "GUEST-WORKER" PLAN FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!

*** VOTE YES ON REAL BORDER SECURITY!!!



* US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Locate And Contact YOUR Representative HERE.

* HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: Congressman John Boehner, R-OH

DC (202) 225-6205
OH (513) 779-5400

* US SENATE: Locate And Contact YOUR Senators HERE.

* SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: Sen. Bill Frist, R-TN

DC (202)224-3344
TN (615)352-9411






I am still waiting for Mel Martinez' reply. Its been 7 days now.
Time to write again
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:44:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:55:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By mytwocents:
Assuming there is a presidential race in 2008. (not gauranteed im thinking martial law after a real or manufactured terrorist incident)





Good God, you're nuttier than a case of pecans.



Ever heard of operation Northwoods?
Here Choose your own Google source

In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled "Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba" was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals--part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose--included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington," including "sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated)," faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a "Remember the Maine" incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods "may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government."

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:57:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
And whose fault will it be?

The Republicans who amnestied MILLIONS of New Democrats.

Brilliant guys.



It will be the fault of the morons who squandered their vote on third party BS...
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 3:02:37 PM EST
Read the rest here ABC

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.


Or pick your own google source
Google Operation Northwoods

How much of a stretch would it be for a manufactured terror incident to provoke us into war with Iran. Nuclear war. Do you think there will be elections during a war with Iran? Not much of a stretch.

BTW
Since we know the anthrax that was used in terror related incidents came from our own stocks. How come no one has ever been Caught? Was It a Dry run, experiment? Feild test?

I think Rikwriter again has his head up his ass.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 3:06:18 PM EST
You guys seem to forget that the '94 AWB was what helped the GOP take back control of Congress two months later.

Democrats have much higher priorities than gun control. They've learned that it helps them lose elections.

That said, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE RECEIVERS I JUST ORDERED?
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Top Top