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Posted: 3/29/2006 10:08:16 AM EDT
A guy I know recently got royally screwed by his ex girlfriend. I will omit their real names to protect the guilty.
John and Jane have a child togather. Jane started cheating so John moved out. A few months later Jane called John for a booty call. She asked John to meet her at work and like a fool he did. they went to a mutual friends house who was out of town, so they could bump uglies undisturbed by Jane's new B/F. After John fell asleep Jane went outside, called 911 on her cellphone and told the police that John kidnapped and raped her. Cops showed up and woke up John. They found three guns in the house that belonged to the homeowner (john is a convicted felon from a robbery when he was 17). So John got arrested for kidnapping, sex assault and felon possess fireams! Of course jane got immediate full custody of their common child, which was her plan all along. The DA offered him a plead bargain of 30yrs state for a guilty plea, or they would go for life without parole. At the first prelim Jane was a less than credible witness, and now she is refusing to testify against John, and big surprise....she wants them to get back togather. So now the DA is offering John 9yrs state if he pleads guilty. The moral of this story is you do not have booty calls with your ex. |
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Damn
Well, if it's true love it'll come back to you, and if it doesnt, hunt it down and kill it. |
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IF the story is true. He would be fully justified in killing her, in my mind.
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No, the moral of this story is: DON'T become a felon. One becomes one by doing generally violent crimes. The cops have tendency NOT to believe convicted felons, for some reason. Any idea why?.... |
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Um, can't doctors find out whether sex was forced or not?
If this story is true, holy crap. |
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Yea, that too. and dont sleep with your ex if while you were togather she was smoking meth and screweing another guy while you were at work. |
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Her initial claim was she submitted to the sex out of fear of what he might do if she resisted. So it wasnt a forcable rape. it was a I'll sleep with him but only because I'm scared of what he might do if i say no. Unfortunatly for men, several states will currently prosecute that as rape. The prosecution is offering to throw out the rape and kidnapping charges in the current plea deal offer. They want him to plead to felon possess firearm and "burglary." (Enter building to commit theft, petty theft or any other felony). |
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Someone thought this through. Bet she'll raise the child to be a stellar citizen in society! |
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And where is his lawyer in all of this?
Seems like if she called him to meet at her work there would be witnesses to corroborate his side of the story, and at least phone records to prove she called him. |
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She read him like a book and played him like a violen. Sad thing is weeks before it happened i warned him to sever all contacts and only comunicate with her via his attorney to protect himself from false claims of domestic abuse. |
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bummer. I would think he could get out of it with some character witnesses though (especially one that happens to be a cop).
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There are. In fact her coworkers have given sworn statement that they saw them get into her car togather and drive away and that she didnt look like she was under duress. Jane said John told her he had a gun and to act like nothing was wrong and he made her drive them to the house. |
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What about the homeowner?
Are they in on this scam? How'd she get in? |
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Character witnesses are not going to help this guy. Up until about 7 years ago he was the most violent and dangerous person i had ever known. the kind of guy that would beat you half to death then drive your car to the bar and go in for a drink with the stolen car parked out front. Thats why the DA is so gung ho on continuing with the case even though the victim no longer desires prosecution and is refusing to testify. |
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First of all, this guy sounds like a real dumb ass.
Second of all, this woman's story is so pathetic and contrived that I'm surprised that any semi concious attorney wouldn't have a field day with this. |
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From what i know of him he's genuinely a good guy. He was on a deer hunting trip out of state when this happened. John had a key to the house and stayed there often during the initial seperation. When he got full custody of the child, due to Jane's meth arrests, John moved out and got an apartment for him and the child. All indicators are that this was a very elaborate ploy to get child custody. |
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"And where is his lawyer in all of this?
Seems like if she called him to meet at her work there would be witnesses to corroborate his side of the story, and at least phone records to prove she called him." I'm not sticking up for either side here, but it sounds like someone LE, DA's office, Defense Attorney, whoever dropped the ball on this case. If Jane had been calling John there should be phone records (cell or landline) that show who called who first. If it is a cell line it should show the localality one or both parties were when the call was placed and receive. Statements from the people she worked with and from the homeowner (mutual friend). Who drove to the mutal friend's house? Also need alittle more information on how entry was gained to the mutal friend's house, did either John or Jane ever have permission in the past to come over and how did they enter? Also be interested in how and where Jane called 911 from and statements made to the 911 operator. I know you said Jane consented out of fear, but I would be interested in knowing if she had a sexual assault examination done (statements she gave the doctor, lab results, photographs, etc.) The firearm charge, I understand he was a felon and the idea of constructive posession, but where were the firearms located in the house, were they secured, were any handled by John, once John realized firearms were in the house did he try to leave etc.) Sorry, alot of questions on this one. If you talk to your buddy tell him to find a better lawyer. Personally in a jury trial I think he could obtain reasonable doubt. |
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He probably will do some time for the guns in the house. Otherwise they might drop everyting. Lesson: Don't go back to your EX.
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DAMN..........
Sounds like what will happen to this guy www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=450251 |
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I remember a similar case on one of those reality TV cop shows. The ex made a false police report to set up the guy to get busted. He arranged with the cops to phone her and have the conversation taped. He was able to get her to confess on tape by drawing her out, saying stuff like, "okay, you got me good"... "you set me up"... "why are you doing this to me?"... "you know you lied to the police"... etc. She gloated about it, "yeah, I got you good you son of a bitch, and now you're going to jail"... etc.
Worth a try I think. |
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Damn....now here I was getting ready to say naw...she can't be as bad as Rodents ex, but this is pretty bad.
Time to feed the hogs! |
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moral of the story.. dont do felony robberies... |
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Actually...that would be his best bet! |
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If John knew his buddy had guns in the house and John was the one that had the key, then I think your friend is pretty much screwed for the weapons charge. If there is a brighter side to it all, they drop the sexual assault / rape then he wont have to register as a sex offender.
Wish you buddy luck, he's gonna need it. |
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i've never had to go through a divorce, but in the past when i've broken up with a woman, it's for good. no more talking, period. no phone calls, no e-mails, not even letters. it's over, walk away. *everyone* should do the same. |
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The big "booty call" case around these parts is from about 6 years ago, if memory serves.
Couple were breaking up, there was going to be a divorce. After the case was pending, she calls him for a booty call. He had sex with her, and dumped the condom in the trash as was his habbit. She put the condom in the freezer. Later, she smeared his semen into the panties of their 6 year old girl and made a phone call saying that the child was saying inappropriate things and touching herself in a weird way. Cops arrested dude. Later, this woman actually bragged up her treachery to a friend, who decided not to be a accomplice after the fact and went to police. They did some additional testing apparently of the semen and found nonoxynal 9 (spermacide) and freezerburn. And they let her plea out a deal where she had no time served. You might think this guy should sue the woman's ass off. But he cannot, because he tried to kill himself and wound up a veggie. That's the version I heard, although the story varies. I suppose it could be apocrophal, but really... theres a lesson here nevertheless. |
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close to the exact situation happened to my uncle not too long ago. fuckin lying bitches, |
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damn...
he got pwned... Then again, you can see from his history that he doesn't have a track record of making good decisions. |
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I'm sorry, but merely being in a house with guns does not make you a felon in possession.
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IF THIS IS TRUE: I think that the best thing would be 1. for him to get acquitted of all charges, 2. for a posse to form for the purpose of lynching her, 3. for said posse to remain unprosecuted.
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