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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:17:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Wheat isn't sanctioned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By weptek911: If there is a famine it's because Russia is doing it on purpose, the sanctions are only in effect by the West aligned countries, just like India and China buying discount Orc oil there is nothing stopping shithole countries from buying Orc wheat. Fuck that Orc media witch.. Wheat isn't sanctioned.  When Insurance Gets Exciting: Global Shipping and Russian Oil |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:18:03 PM EDT
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The stories coming out about the secret helo flights to the azov plant is amazing!
https://news.yahoo.com/impossible-ukraines-secret-deadly-rescue-062218231.html |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:18:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Of Course They Did! German so-called "leadership" today has a hard moralistic shell that covers a soft-to-the-point-of-being-liquid relativistic center. n That’s a worthy turn of phrase right there. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:19:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVyzuzGXsAAo4Sp?format=jpg&name=large Snake Island got hit again? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: throttle back to 900 rpm from 1200 rpm? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By Dracster: Beretta MG42/59 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-21_08-47-51_jpg-2425693.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-21_08-47-51__2__jpg-2425694.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-21_08-47-52_jpg-2425695.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-21_08-47-53_jpg-2425696.JPG throttle back to 900 rpm from 1200 rpm? actually with the heavy bolt kit with the HD buffer...it brings it down to about 750 RPM. I know so because my uncle sold the kits when he got them direct from Beretta back in the 90s. He bought about 100 of them and sold them promptly. Using it on my transferable rewelded 42/59, it was a pussy cat to shoot. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2022 5:29:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVyzuzGXsAAo4Sp?format=jpg&name=large All UA assets are under strict orders NOT to damage those docks. That would slow the arrival of Russian men and equipment into the Snake Island disposer. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gatetraveller: You literally have no idea what you are talking about. The Nazis were a political party in Germany. Not all Germans were members of the Nazi Party. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gatetraveller: Originally Posted By Fallen: He fought for the Nazis, in the Nazi army, wearing a Nazi uniform. WTF do you think he is? You literally have no idea what you are talking about. The Nazis were a political party in Germany. Not all Germans were members of the Nazi Party. He pledged loyalty to Adolf Hitler. He saluted a Nazi flag. “BuT hE WaSn’t A MemBeR oF tHe NaZi PArtY So hE WaSn’t TeChNiCAllY a NAzI!” Fuck off with that Nazi apologist bullshit. PS, I’m sure he was totally truthful saying he was conscripted, it’s not like that’s something someone would lie about because the truth was embarrassing. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:22:30 PM EDT
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11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:23:21 PM EDT
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Let's keep this on topic, please.
Start another thread to argue the merits of how many Nazis can dance on the head of a pin. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:26:05 PM EDT
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The fire at the drilling platforms of Chornomornaftogaz was recorded by satellites. It is also visible on NASA FIRMS maps, a service that tracks fires. The day before, the Ukrainian military hit the platform with missiles. Today, the Russian military said they could not extinguish the fire
https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/11395 |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vs  |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:53:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vs/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/simpsons_nelson_haha2-36.jpg I admit I laughed a little when I realized they hid mostly behind more ordinance in crates. Then laughed again about 5 min in when the mlrs rounds blew past them with a "whoosh!" Noticed they were wearing Nike shoes too. That was a lot of ordinance going off. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:55:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly shit!! Dumb Russians should have drove off in the beginning 🤣 |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 6:56:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Holy shit!! Dumb Russians should have drove off in the beginning 🤣 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly shit!! Dumb Russians should have drove off in the beginning 🤣 Well that would make sense, did you notice they drove towards it?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: He pledged loyalty to Adolf Hitler. He saluted a Nazi flag. “BuT hE WaSn’t A MemBeR oF tHe NaZi PArtY So hE WaSn’t TeChNiCAllY a NAzI!” Fuck off with that Nazi apologist bullshit. PS, I’m sure he was totally truthful saying he was conscripted, it’s not like that’s something someone would lie about because the truth was embarrassing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: Originally Posted By gatetraveller: Originally Posted By Fallen: He fought for the Nazis, in the Nazi army, wearing a Nazi uniform. WTF do you think he is? You literally have no idea what you are talking about. The Nazis were a political party in Germany. Not all Germans were members of the Nazi Party. He pledged loyalty to Adolf Hitler. He saluted a Nazi flag. “BuT hE WaSn’t A MemBeR oF tHe NaZi PArtY So hE WaSn’t TeChNiCAllY a NAzI!” Fuck off with that Nazi apologist bullshit. PS, I’m sure he was totally truthful saying he was conscripted, it’s not like that’s something someone would lie about because the truth was embarrassing. What he's saying is like not all Americans are democrats, yet we all salute the same flag. And not all Germans where nazis. It's a political party. 🙄 he's not being an apologist |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:01:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well that would make sense, did you notice they drove towards it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly shit!! Dumb Russians should have drove off in the beginning 🤣 Well that would make sense, did you notice they drove towards it? Lol ya at first they were like hahaha this shits fun! Then now wtf are we gonna do?! Lol |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:03:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsMother Of All Secondaries  |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVyzuzGXsAAo4Sp?format=jpg&name=large That image suggests at least several Ukrainian rockets/missiles made it through Russia's defenses and BBQ'ed some orc ass. Yeah, Russia shot down every single rocket/missile that was fired at the island. Uh huh. Russia is so full of shit. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:22:22 PM EDT
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Patrick Lancaster not ready for a Grad launch then running because "There is going to be an answer."
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vhqae1/patrick_lancaster_shits_himself_filming_grad/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Let's keep this on topic, please. Start another thread to argue the merits of how many Nazis can dance on the head of a pin. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vs |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 7:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Holy Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! lol, it's the combination of small scale thinking and the lack of understanding that everywhere they went there was ordinance surrounding them. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly freaking shit... from the 5 minute mark on.... thought they were deaded. 
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Holy Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! Needs to be set to Benny Hill theme music. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:14:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Holy Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! Well that was intense |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Around 2017 the US Army published that, "the most dangerous place on the battlefield is a Russian ammo depot". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsI would love to read that article after seeing this.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:35:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I would love to read that article after seeing this. With how inaccurate their rockets are its rather funny seeing them find every place those russkies hide xD |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:44:28 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for June 21st.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: The fire at the drilling platforms of Chornomornaftogaz was recorded by satellites. It is also visible on NASA FIRMS maps, a service that tracks fires. The day before, the Ukrainian military hit the platform with missiles. Today, the Russian military said they could not extinguish the fire https://t.me/ukrainenowenglish/11395 Pootie Poot can just ring up his buddy that has experience in such things. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: He pledged loyalty to Adolf Hitler. He saluted a Nazi flag. “BuT hE WaSn’t A MemBeR oF tHe NaZi PArtY So hE WaSn’t TeChNiCAllY a NAzI!” Fuck off with that Nazi apologist bullshit. PS, I’m sure he was totally truthful saying he was conscripted, it’s not like that’s something someone would lie about because the truth was embarrassing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: Originally Posted By gatetraveller: Originally Posted By Fallen: He fought for the Nazis, in the Nazi army, wearing a Nazi uniform. WTF do you think he is? You literally have no idea what you are talking about. The Nazis were a political party in Germany. Not all Germans were members of the Nazi Party. He pledged loyalty to Adolf Hitler. He saluted a Nazi flag. “BuT hE WaSn’t A MemBeR oF tHe NaZi PArtY So hE WaSn’t TeChNiCAllY a NAzI!” Fuck off with that Nazi apologist bullshit. PS, I’m sure he was totally truthful saying he was conscripted, it’s not like that’s something someone would lie about because the truth was embarrassing. Please take this elsewhere. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:05:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Let's keep this on topic, please. Start another thread to argue the merits of how many Nazis can dance on the head of a pin. Whoops, beat me to it. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:30:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I would love to read that article after seeing this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsI would love to read that article after seeing this. https://info.publicintelligence.net/AWG-RussianNewWarfareHandbook.pdf ETA: .pdf page 36: "The last major weakness of the Russian supply system is safety. Russian forward ammunitiondumps are quite possibly the most unsafe places in any warzone. By doctrine, there are very little storage requirements, no minimum safe areas, little munitions segregation, and many of the munitions are still from the Soviet period or early 1990s and about to expire. Fuel depots are no better. Poorly trained conscript logistics soldiers, combined with these poor storage procedures make these supply depots a tinderbox ready to explode. Russia has suffered several catastrophic supply depot fires and explosions in the past 2 years of combat in Ukraine and Syria. Priority targeting of these areas will cause a serious logistics strain on the Russian system and impact their ability to use maneuver and fires. " |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:34:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 if these varied reports are all accurate, former Aerospace Forces Commander Surovikin has replaced Dvornikov (who may have been forced to retire) as commander of the Southern Military District, but Zhidko has been appointed commander of Russian operations in Ukraine, despite not directly commanding Russian combat troops in his permanent role. Zhidko currently directs the body of the Russian Ministry of Defense responsible for maintaining morale and ideological control within the Russian military, rather than commanding a military district. Switching commanders every couple of months isn’t going to help gain any objectives. Adding a political commissar to oversee the commander is a guarantee of failure. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:36:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _disconnector_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Holy Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: This is proof that god loves young children, drunks, and fucking stupid russians. I can't believe that any of those idiots lived. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! You said Russians twice.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:46:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:50:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: https://info.publicintelligence.net/AWG-RussianNewWarfareHandbook.pdf ETA: .pdf page 36: "The last major weakness of the Russian supply system is safety. Russian forward ammunitiondumps are quite possibly the most unsafe places in any warzone. By doctrine, there are very little storage requirements, no minimum safe areas, little munitions segregation, and many of the munitions are still from the Soviet period or early 1990s and about to expire. Fuel depots are no better. Poorly trained conscript logistics soldiers, combined with these poor storage procedures make these supply depots a tinderbox ready to explode. Russia has suffered several catastrophic supply depot fires and explosions in the past 2 years of combat in Ukraine and Syria. Priority targeting of these areas will cause a serious logistics strain on the Russian system and impact their ability to use maneuver and fires. " Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsI would love to read that article after seeing this. https://info.publicintelligence.net/AWG-RussianNewWarfareHandbook.pdf ETA: .pdf page 36: "The last major weakness of the Russian supply system is safety. Russian forward ammunitiondumps are quite possibly the most unsafe places in any warzone. By doctrine, there are very little storage requirements, no minimum safe areas, little munitions segregation, and many of the munitions are still from the Soviet period or early 1990s and about to expire. Fuel depots are no better. Poorly trained conscript logistics soldiers, combined with these poor storage procedures make these supply depots a tinderbox ready to explode. Russia has suffered several catastrophic supply depot fires and explosions in the past 2 years of combat in Ukraine and Syria. Priority targeting of these areas will cause a serious logistics strain on the Russian system and impact their ability to use maneuver and fires. " Thanks for that, so... Textbook example with the video?
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Posted: 6/21/2022 9:55:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: This is proof that god loves young children, drunks, and fucking stupid russians. I can't believe that any of those idiots lived. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! I thought it was funny that at first they were like "Quick, comrades, to the Blyat-mobile!". That didn't seem to last too long.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:11:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? Ukraine has said weeks before that they expected to withdraw from Severodonetsk if need be and use the high ground across the river to shell the Russians. The offensives so far have been exploitation of Russian weak areas, where it has forced them to move what they have to various regions to plug up the gaps that are being exploited by Ukraine. I would not expect any real major offensives to take back land until later this summer. This Russian advance is a clear setback for Ukrainian defenses in the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area, but Russian forces will likely require further protracted battles with Ukrainian forces similar to the block-by-block fighting seen in Mariupol and Severodonetsk in order to capture Lysychansk. Russian forces continue to face force generation challenges and are committing unprepared contract servicemen to the invasion of Ukraine. The BBC’s Russian service reported on June 20 that new Russian recruits receive only 3 to 7 days of training before being sent to “the most active sectors of the front.”[9] The BBC also reported that volunteers within the conventional Russian military, Rosgvardia units, and Wagner Group mercenaries have become Russia’s main assault force, as opposed to full conventional military units. ISW has previously assessed that Russian units in eastern Ukraine are suffering from poor complements of infantry, slowing their ability to seize urban terrain. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on June 21 that Russian Airborne (VDV) units are forced to recruit reserve officers for short-term three-month contracts due to significant officer losses, Russian operations along the Izyum-Slovyansk axis are increasingly stalled as Russian forces prioritize operations around Severodonetsk. The Ukrainian General Staff also reported that Russian forces consolidated battalion tactical groups (BTGs) from the 5th Combined Arms Army and withdrew units of the 1st Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade of the 1st Army Corps (the armed forces of the Donetsk People‘s Republic) to restore their combat capabilities, indicating that Russian forces are experiencing significant losses in ongoing operations in Luhansk Oblast. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces launched unsuccessful ground assaults against Bohorodychne and Dolyna (north of Slovyansk) and did not attempt to conduct offensive operations in the Lyman area.[18] Ukraine’s Strategic Communications Directorate reported that Russian forces are redeploying several army-level headquarters units from frontlines in the Izyum and Lyman areas to Svatove and Horoshe, just 30-40 km east of Severodonetsk and Popasna.[19] The redeployment of these headquarters units may further complicate Russian logistics routes and troop management in Izyum and Lyman and indicates that these units may be further shifting to the Severodonetsk axis. The above doesn't exactly seem rosy for the Russians. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukraine has said weeks before that they expected to withdraw from Severodonetsk if need be and use the high ground across the river to shell the Russians. The offensives so far have been exploitation of Russian weak areas, where it has forced them to move what they have to various regions to plug up the gaps that are being exploited by Ukraine. I would not expect any real major offensives to take back land until later this summer. The above doesn't exactly seem rosy for the Russians. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? Ukraine has said weeks before that they expected to withdraw from Severodonetsk if need be and use the high ground across the river to shell the Russians. The offensives so far have been exploitation of Russian weak areas, where it has forced them to move what they have to various regions to plug up the gaps that are being exploited by Ukraine. I would not expect any real major offensives to take back land until later this summer. This Russian advance is a clear setback for Ukrainian defenses in the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area, but Russian forces will likely require further protracted battles with Ukrainian forces similar to the block-by-block fighting seen in Mariupol and Severodonetsk in order to capture Lysychansk. Russian forces continue to face force generation challenges and are committing unprepared contract servicemen to the invasion of Ukraine. The BBC’s Russian service reported on June 20 that new Russian recruits receive only 3 to 7 days of training before being sent to “the most active sectors of the front.”[9] The BBC also reported that volunteers within the conventional Russian military, Rosgvardia units, and Wagner Group mercenaries have become Russia’s main assault force, as opposed to full conventional military units. ISW has previously assessed that Russian units in eastern Ukraine are suffering from poor complements of infantry, slowing their ability to seize urban terrain. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on June 21 that Russian Airborne (VDV) units are forced to recruit reserve officers for short-term three-month contracts due to significant officer losses, Russian operations along the Izyum-Slovyansk axis are increasingly stalled as Russian forces prioritize operations around Severodonetsk. The Ukrainian General Staff also reported that Russian forces consolidated battalion tactical groups (BTGs) from the 5th Combined Arms Army and withdrew units of the 1st Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade of the 1st Army Corps (the armed forces of the Donetsk People‘s Republic) to restore their combat capabilities, indicating that Russian forces are experiencing significant losses in ongoing operations in Luhansk Oblast. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces launched unsuccessful ground assaults against Bohorodychne and Dolyna (north of Slovyansk) and did not attempt to conduct offensive operations in the Lyman area.[18] Ukraine’s Strategic Communications Directorate reported that Russian forces are redeploying several army-level headquarters units from frontlines in the Izyum and Lyman areas to Svatove and Horoshe, just 30-40 km east of Severodonetsk and Popasna.[19] The redeployment of these headquarters units may further complicate Russian logistics routes and troop management in Izyum and Lyman and indicates that these units may be further shifting to the Severodonetsk axis. The above doesn't exactly seem rosy for the Russians. I'm just hopeful the Ukrainians can get more heavy weapons and ammo to start pushing the Russians back before the rooskies can reconstitute all the forces they've destroyed by sending them screaming into a buzz saw. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:18:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: I thought it was funny that at first they were like "Quick, comrades, to the Blyat-mobile!". That didn't seem to last too long. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! I thought it was funny that at first they were like "Quick, comrades, to the Blyat-mobile!". That didn't seem to last too long. That's too good not to give it recognition.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: That's too good not to give it recognition. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsHoly Jumping Fuck. Our ammo depot got hit....let's hide 10M away. (Shit starts blowing like a Chinese fireworks factory) Fuck, we need to get 50M away!! (Shit starts blowing up like the 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse visited) Maybe we should be thousands of Meters away!! I thought it was funny that at first they were like "Quick, comrades, to the Blyat-mobile!". That didn't seem to last too long. That's too good not to give it recognition. I liked when they got closer to the depot all of them leaned forward to watch the explosions, you can see a guy unassing the area in front of the truck heading toward the buildings as they all gawk at the sight at 1:39 in.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: That's too good not to give it recognition. Concur.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsDamn those guys were facing the gates of hell!
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Damn those guys were facing the gates of hell! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 11 minute video of Russians running and hiding from their ammo depot going off from the Ukrainian Tochka-u ballistic missile at Krasny Luch. Sort of like a fireworks factory explosion, but with mlrs rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGA88Eo8vsDamn those guys were facing the gates of hell! Hopefully a preview of coming attractions for them. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 10:58:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YaNi05: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: ISW assessment for June 21st. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-21 Not good. It looks pretty dire in Severodonetsk and Zolote. And what happened to the offensive in the South? Yeah I'm getting worried Hope himars can start raining hell on the Russians. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Yeah I'm getting worried Hope himars can start raining hell on the Russians. According to some acq in AR there may be some delivery problems. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 11:11:32 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukraine has said weeks before that they expected to withdraw from Severodonetsk if need be and use the high ground across the river to shell the Russians. The offensives so far have been exploitation of Russian weak areas, where it has forced them to move what they have to various regions to plug up the gaps that are being exploited by Ukraine. I would not expect any real major offensives to take back land until later this summer. The above doesn't exactly seem rosy for the Russians. I keep hearing that things are going to be different later in the summer. I'm not yet convinced that isn't some kind of hopeful thinking. What is going to happen later in the summer that will give ukraine the ability to do what they can't do now? And, when? |
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