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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:08:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:08:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Birddog15] [#2]
Not again!

ETA  These page breaks are getting stranger.  That cat art above me wasn't there when I posted.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:19:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:20:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
It's a PMC that is defacto permanently contracted by the Russian gov't.
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Originally Posted By stone-age:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:



More Mongolian looking that slav.


Does anybody know if wagner group is actual mercenary or merely a particular russian unit with a designation that allows them to do stuff that regular russian army can't? Are they mercs or russian soldiers?
It's a PMC that is defacto permanently contracted by the Russian gov't.

Yeah, this. It started out that Spetsnaz guys would put in for leave and do RF dirty work, and because they were competently led and well funded, they were good at what they did. When people asked if they were RF, Russia would say no, and when people asked if they were mercenaries they’d say “mercenaries are illegal in Russia”.

It’s become more like the conventional military, so naturally the leadership sucks and standards are in free fall along with morale.

Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:23:59 PM EDT
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"Moldova has reportedly decided to offer Ukraine spare parts for MIG-29 aircraft. A telegram channel from the Transnistrian region writes about this, which publishes an image on FlyRadar with a plane coming today to Mrculeti from Uzhgorod, Ukraine, "to transport the parts of the plane". The information has not yet been officially confirmed."

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Allegedly, video of the plane flying in.

Telegram Video
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:26:41 PM EDT
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The tires on my truck right now.

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Nokian?
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:32:04 PM EDT
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Originally...Posted...By...Dracster:
"Moldova...has...reportedly...decided...to...offer...Ukraine...spare...parts...for...MIG-...9...aircraft....A...telegram...channel...from...the...Transnistrian...region...writes...about...this,...which...publishes...an...image...on...FlyRadar...with...a...plane...coming...today...to...Mrculeti...from...Uzhgorod,...Ukraine,..."to...transport...the...parts...of...the...plane"....The...information...has...not...yet...been...officially...confirmed."

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Allegedly,...video...of...the...plane...flying...in.

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They...know...they...are...going...to...have...their...own...cleanup...to...do...and...will...need...help.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:32:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:35:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slapdaddy:


Good Lord, what a mess of eastern/western and modern/dated weapons and weapon systems Ukraine is going to be in possession of when this is all over.  Just imagine what a headache reffiting and re-organizing this bizarre arms collection is going to be.
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IF UKR survives, which we hope, they will EXACTLY know which weapon systems they want.

Hermann
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:38:06 PM EDT
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Because it never gets old
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 5:54:24 PM EDT
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German socialist orcs are going be german socialist orcs.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:07:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:07:31 PM EDT
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More tech folks pulling their load.

The drone war: Ukrainian-produced UAV-killers help to keep the sky closed
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:08:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

300BLYT?

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Originally Posted By stone-age:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
"SBU neutralized militants who were supposed to help racists in case of re-occupation of Chernihiv region

The group consisted of criminal elements and was generously provided with weapons and equipment by Russian special forces.
Among the seized are sniper rifles of silent firing "Vintorez", anti-tank grenades RPG-18 "Fly" and machine guns of silent firing "Val"."

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Damn. I really want a quiet russian rifle.

300BLYT?



9 X 39 MM
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:09:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:10:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 74HC:
German socialist orcs are going be german socialist orcs.
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Originally Posted By 74HC:
German socialist orcs are going be german socialist orcs.


German Socialist is going to do what all "Good Germans" do; take a bunch of self-serving and double-dealing actions and positions  while self righteously proclaiming Germany's motives are pure as the driven snow.  Yet again, we are warmed and illuminated as Germany's credibility goes up in flames!
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:14:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:27:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By batjka104:
Interesting video. Russian SOF ambush Ukrainian SOF somewhere in Zaporozhie. Filmed from a drone.

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Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:37:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


9 X 39 MM
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Killjoy
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 6:59:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:


Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.
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He did survive according to the description I saw. Wounded and taken prisoner. You can see the Russians wrap him up and drag him away. He fought like hell. Glad he made it.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:06:47 PM EDT
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That's the first vid I've seen of one actually being used and not just parked/abandoned.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:12:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Arminius:


IF UKR survives, which we hope, they will EXACTLY know which weapon systems they want.

Hermann
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Originally Posted By Arminius:
Originally Posted By slapdaddy:


Good Lord, what a mess of eastern/western and modern/dated weapons and weapon systems Ukraine is going to be in possession of when this is all over.  Just imagine what a headache reffiting and re-organizing this bizarre arms collection is going to be.


IF UKR survives, which we hope, they will EXACTLY know which weapon systems they want.

Hermann


And potentially build a part of them in Ukraine.  They now have all kinds of stuff to compare/contrast when they come up with the new Ukrainian STANAG designs in a few years.  They will leverage the Western stuff they have while replacing the COMBLOC stuff.  The Ukrainian arms industry has a lot of foreign customers, so they can probably regen and sell their Soviet-era stuff to existing customers while either designing indigenous STANAG stuff or building western-designed systems under license. This will have the salutatory effect of  disrupting the Russian export market for some time.    Stuff they have a lot of (M777, M113s, NLAWS, Javelins, etc) or that is useful for equipping TD units (M14s, Submachine guns, etc) will stick around for a while.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:16:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Killjoy
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


9 X 39 MM

Killjoy


Get out of here...
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:27:10 PM EDT
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Has this video been posted yet?  I would be surprised if it hasn't, but if it has I missed it

Ukrainian troops destroy Russian weapons facility
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:41:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:


Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By batjka104:
Interesting video. Russian SOF ambush Ukrainian SOF somewhere in Zaporozhie. Filmed from a drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ampVI0cdR3M


Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.

Is it though? It looks kinda trainingish. The UA dudes look pretty oblivious and the RU dudes act a little too textbook.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:52:17 PM EDT
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Ukrainian marine - Mariupol defender - rescued from Azovstal
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:52:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

Is it though? It looks kinda trainingish. The UA dudes look pretty oblivious and the RU dudes act a little too textbook.
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not real
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:55:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Banditman:
More tech folks pulling their load.

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Wow. I could actually be useful to the war effort. I used to be an electronics tech and can solder like a madman. I could build those!
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:56:32 PM EDT
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I don't think that's a mine, that's got to be an IED of some sort.

Damn you SSO, who taught you to do that?

Who just came off a 20 year war with insurgents who loved to set mines and IEDs...hmmmm
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:56:56 PM EDT
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Nothing annoys me more than people who use Russian talking points but nothing pisses me off more than people using China’s talking points. I’m seeing more and more Americans online who are either pro Russia or isolationist quoting verbatim talking points I read in Russian, Iranian or China state news. With Moscow being bff with Beijing it appears the same you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours is now applying to Americans who bizarrely apply it to Taiwan and of all fucking places Myanmar {Burma} These 2 idiots below being a prime example
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 7:59:38 PM EDT
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That looks a lot like the Suitcase Sagger missile.
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All saggers break down like that, I have one in my living room. The transport crates are about 3 feet tall, but once they get to the front they can be loaded into those.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:01:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

I've had low expectations for Germany for over a decade now. Check ar15.com archives for my 2017 threads on NATO 2% GDP and China / Germany trade as well as Fort Trump Poland.
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Originally Posted By WildBill375:


They've been full of empty promises.

This war has showed who our real allies are and Germany isn't one of them.

I've had low expectations for Germany for over a decade now. Check ar15.com archives for my 2017 threads on NATO 2% GDP and China / Germany trade as well as Fort Trump Poland.

For a nation with geo-political and military alliance power that is unpopular with who they align with, Germany is a great example of that behavior.  They are German orcs candescently supporting Russian orcs without losing their EU power.

I think some like Poland is going to remember this, and have candescent trade barriers on German imports.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:04:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Nothing annoys me more than people who use Russian talking points but nothing pisses me off more than people using China’s talking points. I’m seeing more and more Americans online who are either pro Russia or isolationist quoting verbatim talking points I read in Russian, Iranian or China state news. With Moscow being bff with Beijing it appears the same you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours is now applying to Americans who bizarrely apply it to Taiwan and of all fucking places Myanmar {Burma} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDk8x0pIdU
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I agree.

Isolationists will be the biggest whiners if forced to live in the world isolationism creates.

It really seems half of them aren't even isolationists, they're just secret anti-americans as the arguments allways fall into whataboutisms of how its all ok because the US has done something else.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:05:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Nothing annoys me more than people who use Russian talking points but nothing pisses me off more than people using China’s talking points. I’m seeing more and more Americans online who are either pro Russia or isolationist quoting verbatim talking points I read in Russian, Iranian or China state news. With Moscow being bff with Beijing it appears the same you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours is now applying to Americans who bizarrely apply it to Taiwan and of all fucking places Myanmar {Burma} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDk8x0pIdU
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I can easily debate or discuss any topic without resorting to propaganda to do so and without trying to claim some self righteous label. Good fucking grief
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:11:00 PM EDT
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 June 6, 7:15 pm ET

Click here to see ISW's interactive map of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This map is updated daily alongside the static maps present in this report.

The nature of urban combat in Severodonetsk is likely obfuscating reports of control of terrain within the city, though Russian forces likely retain control over much of the city. Head of the Luhansk Regional State Administration Serhiy Haidai claimed on June 5 that Ukrainian forces managed to retake large parts of Severodonetsk and push Russian forces to the outskirts of the city during successful urban counterattacks.[1] Ukrainian journalist Yuri Butusov, however, denied Haidai’s claims on June 5 and claimed that Ukrainian forces only control the Azot industrial sector of Severodonetsk. Haidai amended his claims on June 6 and reported that the situation in Severodonetsk has deteriorated significantly, adding that Ukrainian forces were indeed fighting within the Azot industrial site on June 6.[2] The reason for Haidai and Butusov’s conflicting reports is unclear, and heavy urban fighting is ongoing in the city.

Ukrainian naval forces are challenging Russian dominance over the northwestern part of the Black Sea and claimed to be preventing Russian warships from operating close to the shoreline. The Ukrainian Navy reported on June 6 that they had succeeded in pushing a grouping of the Russian Black Sea Fleet more than 100 km away from the Ukrainian coast but did not specify a timeframe for this statement.[3] The report additionally stated that Russian naval forces have subsequently had to change their tactics in the Black Sea and are relying more heavily on Bal and Bastion coastal defense systems in occupied Kherson and Crimea rather than seaborne air defenses. The UK Ministry of Defense claimed that Russian forces have been strengthening their air defense assets on Snake Island, and the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reported that Russian forces deployed additional S-300 air defense battalions to Crimea.[4] Taken together, these reports suggest that Ukrainian naval pressure and anti-ship missiles—likely including those provided by the UK and other states—have forced the Russian grouping in the northwestern Black Sea to rely more on coastal and air defense as they are pushed away from the Ukrainian shoreline. Ukraine will likely attempt to leverage these successes to alleviate the economic pressure of the Russian blockade on Ukraine’s ports and seek additional economic support from the west, including possibly opening up new routes for international aid to Ukraine.

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Russian forces likely retain control over most of Severodonetsk as of June 6, though the exact situation in the city remains unclear. Control of terrain is likely changing hands frequently.
Russian forces in the Izyum area did not make any confirmed advances, while forces advancing west from Lyman secured minor gains.
Russian forces continued unsuccessful attempts to sever Ukrainian lines of communication northeast of Bakhmut.
Limited and localized Ukrainian counterattacks on June 5 forced Russian troops to focus on holding defensive lines north of Kharkiv City on June 6.
Russian occupation authorities are advancing efforts to issue Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens and cement their control over occupied territories.
The Ukrainian Navy claimed to have pushed the Russian Black Sea Fleet more than 100 km from the Ukrainian coast, likely to reduce the pressure of the Russian blockade on Ukraine’s southern ports.  
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Main effort—Eastern Ukraine (comprised of one subordinate and three supporting efforts);
Subordinate main effort- Encirclement of Ukrainian troops in the cauldron between Izyum and Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts
Supporting effort 1—Kharkiv City;
Supporting effort 2—Southern Axis;
Activities in Russian-occupied areas
Main Effort—Eastern Ukraine

Subordinate Main Effort—Southern Kharkiv, Donetsk, Luhansk Oblasts (Russian objective: Encircle Ukrainian forces in Eastern Ukraine and capture the entirety of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, the claimed territory of Russia’s proxies in Donbas)

Russian forces continued attempts to advance southeast of Izyum toward Slovyansk but did not make any confirmed advances on June 6.[5] Russian State Duma Deputy Alexander Borodai reportedly traveled to Dovhenke (about 20 km south of Izyum) to storm the village with the Donbas Volunteer Union, a Russian proxy unit.[6] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces continued to assault Dovhenke unsuccessfully and that Russian forces fired on various settlements to the southwest and southeast of Izyum, including Velyka Komyshuvakha, Virnopillya, Dibrivne, Nova Dmytrivka, and Kurulka.[7] Russian forces additionally made incremental advances to the west of Lyman in Shchurove and Staryi Karavan and reportedly are “clearing” Sviatohirsk (meaning they are likely engaged in urban combat within the city) with the intention of advancing southward toward Slovyansk across the Siverskyi Donets River.  
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 Russian forces likely retain control over most of Severodonetsk as of June 6, despite Head of the Luhansk Regional State Administration Serhiy Haidai’s June 5 claims that Ukrainian counterattacks retook considerable ground and drove Russian troops to the eastern outskirts of the city.[9] Haidai issued another statement on June 6 expanding on his previous statement and said that the situation had “deteriorated” and that Ukrainian troops are fighting in the industrial zone of the Azot plant.[10] Ukrainian journalist Yuri Butusov additionally reported on June 5 that claims of Ukrainian counterattacks were untrue and that Ukrainian forces only hold the Azot plant and surrounding neighborhoods.[11] The reason for the conflicting reports on June 5 is unclear and ISW cannot independently confirm if Ukrainian forces did indeed retake large parts of Severodonetsk at the time of Haidai’s statement and subsequently lost the terrain by June 6, or if Ukrainian forces did not make these counterattacks at all. The information environment in Severodonetsk remains dynamic and control of terrain is likely changing hands frequently as Ukrainian and Russian troops are locked in close-quarters urban combat.[12] Haidai cited intercepted information that Russian forces have been tasked with completing the capture of Severodonetsk by June 10, though no other sources have reported this deadline and ISW cannot confirm it at this time.[13]

Russian forces escalated their pace of fire against Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, and the surrounding settlements of Metolkine, Borivske, Ustynivka, Toshkivka, Privillya, Zolote, Vrubivka, Hirkske, and Orikhove.[14] The Russian escalation in artillery fire in and around Severodonetsk is likely intended to support Russian operations within the city itself and interdict Ukrainian forces from effectively deploying reserves and conducting resupply efforts in areas under heavy fire.

Russian forces continued mortar, artillery, rocket, air, and ground attacks east of Bakhmut on June 6.[15] Russian troops unsuccessfully attempted to advance westwards toward Bakhmut from Bilohorivka, Komyshuvakha, Berestove, and Mykailivka with the intention of cutting across roadways to the northeast of Bakmut.[16] Territorial defense forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) reportedly made incremental advances in the Donetsk City-Avdiivka area and reportedly pushed Ukrainian forces away from Avdiivka, established positions in Kamyanka (5 km northeast of Avdiivka), and took control of Zelenyi Hai and Petrivske (both within 70 km southwest of Avdiivka).[17] Advances to the southwest of Avdiivka are likely intended to gain access to the H20 highway to drive northward to support operations in Avdiivka, which in turn is a likely attempt to drive up the H20 highway toward the Kramatorsk-Slovyansk area.  
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Supporting Effort #1—Kharkiv City (Russian objective: Withdraw forces to the north and defend ground lines of communication (GLOCs) to Izyum)

Limited and localized Ukrainian counterattacks on June 5 forced Russian troops to focus on holding defensive lines north of Kharkiv City on June 6.[18] Spokesperson for the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Oleksandr Motuzyanyk reported that unspecified elements of the Russian 6th Combined Arms Army, Baltic Fleet, and 1st Army Corps of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) are operating in northern Kharkiv Oblast to prevent Ukrainian advances toward the Russian border.[19] A Russian Telegram channel reported that fighting is occurring in Tsupivka, Velyki Prokhody, and Ternova as a result of Ukrainian counterattacks.[20] ISW cannot confirm the current status of control of these settlements and it is likely that the frontline northeast of Kharkiv City remains highly contested. Russian forces additionally continued to fire on the Saltivka and Slobidskyi districts of Kharkiv City, Balakliya, Chuhuiv, and Cherkaska Lozova.[21]  
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 Supporting Effort #2—Southern Axis (Objective: Defend Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts against Ukrainian counterattacks)

Russian forces continued to hold their defensive positions and fire along the line of contact of the Southern Axis on June 6.[22] Russian forces continued combat in northwestern Kherson Oblast along the Kherson-Mykolaiv Oblast border near Vysokopillya and Kochubeivka but did not secure any confirmed advances in this area on June 6.[23] Control of positions along the Inhulets River near the Kherson-Mykolaiv border is likely still contested following a limited Ukrainian counterattack south of Davydiv Brid on May 29.[24] Russian forces are reportedly continuing to accumulate forces in eastern Zaporizhia Oblast near the border with Donetsk Oblast around Orikhiv, Huliapole, Vasylivka, and Velyka Novoselivka.[25] Russian forces additionally fired at Ukrainian positions throughout Kherson, Zaporizhia, and Mykolaiv Oblasts.[26]
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 Activity in Russian-occupied Areas (Russian objective: consolidate administrative control of occupied areas; set conditions for potential annexation into the Russian Federation or some other future political arrangement of Moscow’s choosing)

Russian occupation elements continued efforts to strengthen economic, political, and social control of occupied areas. Advisor to the Mayor of Mariupol Petro Andryushchenko stated that the occupation authority in Mariupol is continuing to fail to provide basic social services and that, as a result, the city is dealing with sanitation issues and citizens do not have reliable access to food.[27]

Occupation elements additionally continue to push for “passportization” processes in occupied areas.[28] Andryushchenko claimed that Russian authorities in Novoaskovsk, a city east of Mariupol near the Russian border, have begun accepting documentation for Russian passports from citizens of Mariupol.[29] The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that occupation authorities in Kherson Oblast are offering Ukrainians 10,000 rubles (approximately USD 163) to get a Russian passport and support an unspecified referendum (likely regarding annexation into the Russian Federation or the creation of a nominally-independent proxy republic).[30]

Russian occupation administrators are setting conditions for economic control of occupied areas. Russian forces are reportedly coercing Ukrainian farmers and entrepreneurs to set prices and conduct business in rubles.[31] The use of Russian currency as a form of control is a notable effort to integrate occupied areas into the Russian economy that will also complicate those areas’ reintegration into Ukraine.

Occupation authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) are using the trials of three foreign mercenaries who were captured fighting for Ukraine to support Kremlin information campaigns.[32] Russian war reporter Evgeny Podubbny stated that the DNR Prosecutor General’s Office is trying British nationals Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin and Moroccan national Saadun Brahim for the “commission of a crime by a group of persons,” “forcible seizure of power or forcible retention of power,” “mercenary activity,” and “training for the purpose of carrying out terrorist activities.”[33] The DNR Prosecutor General’s Office is reportedly seeking the death penalty for all three.[34] These trials are likely a response to recent (legitimate) Ukrainian war crimes trials of Russian servicemen and an attempt to consolidate informational control over the political environment in the DNR to support Kremlin narratives of a Western plot to use mercenaries to destroy the DNR and LNR, a key Kremlin disinformation campaign to justify the war.
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Nothing annoys me more than people who use Russian talking points but nothing pisses me off more than people using China’s talking points. I’m seeing more and more Americans online who are either pro Russia or isolationist quoting verbatim talking points I read in Russian, Iranian or China state news. With Moscow being bff with Beijing it appears the same you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours is now applying to Americans who bizarrely apply it to Taiwan and of all fucking places Myanmar {Burma} These 2 idiots below being a prime example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDk8x0pIdU
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Funny the topic of isolationism comes up...

I was listening to Mark Levin play Ronald Reagan's 40th D-Day Anniversary speech on my ride home. I've heard it a bunch before but one part stuck out for me, even more so this time:

We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.

But we try always to be prepared for peace; prepared to deter aggression; prepared to negotiate the reduction of arms; and, yes, prepared to reach out again in the spirit of reconciliation. In truth, there is no reconciliation we would welcome more than a reconciliation with the Soviet Union, so, together, we can lessen the risks of war, now and forever.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:18:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:
I think Ukraine has the potential to be a long term success like South Korea….all we have to do is give them what they need and prevent the assclowns in Foggy Bottom from meddling and fucking everything up.
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Bold for emphasis. State sucks.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:19:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:


Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.
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Originally Posted By batjka104:
Interesting video. Russian SOF ambush Ukrainian SOF somewhere in Zaporozhie. Filmed from a drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ampVI0cdR3M


Very interesting. Amazing vid of an actual hasty ambush. The last guy fought hard. I hope he survived.


He won’t survive the interrogation which is why I assume they were so hasty to capture him alive, unless it was staged.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:30:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

It would put the lie to three months of “special operation” propaganda.

It will be increasingly obvious that Putin’s ruling elite have robbed the country blind and Russian kids are dying because of it.
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Also bold for emphasis.

The first would be a major problem for the Kremlin.

The second has the potential to destroy Putin's foundation for rule. I don't see why this isn't getting any press yet. Ukrainian propaganda aimed at Russians should be hyping this aspect big-time. Putin's war of aggression doesn't benefit Russian people at all, it only has the function of enriching Putin's cronies still more. Russian people need to see this.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:38:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


9 X 39 MM
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By stone-age:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
"SBU neutralized militants who were supposed to help racists in case of re-occupation of Chernihiv region

The group consisted of criminal elements and was generously provided with weapons and equipment by Russian special forces.
Among the seized are sniper rifles of silent firing "Vintorez", anti-tank grenades RPG-18 "Fly" and machine guns of silent firing "Val"."

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-06_07-35-58__2__jpg-2409413.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-06_07-35-58_jpg-2409415.JPG

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-06-06_07-35-59_jpg-2409416.JPG

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Damn. I really want a quiet russian rifle.

300BLYT?



9 X 39 MM

... So 350BLYT then?
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:38:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:


Those were bought from Tanks-A-Lot.
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Nick mead is not a good guy. He's a scum bag.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:41:21 PM EDT
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I get that vibe.

This war is fucking with my armored vehicle plans.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:48:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
They called Afghanistan the "Soviet Vietnam", however, when it comes to the utter collapse of Russian power across the board, this is almost a an extinction-level event.  Those million Russian exiles (mostly a combination of young and well-educated who, absent MAJOR changes, are not coming back), as well as expending no less than 30,000 young people (often among their most nationalistic/patriotic young citizens) in combat. is going to hammer the Russian People for generations.
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About 2000 pages ago (!) video of a presentation by Peter Zeihan was presented. Zeihan has called this "Russia's last war." It's not an exaggeration, for exactly the reasons posted above. The other factor will be the profound loss of the people's faith in Putin's ruling elite.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:52:26 PM EDT
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That's some weapons-grade irony right there
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:52:53 PM EDT
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Here's the thing tho... they probably should invade Russia, if they are able.    Capturing certain places within Russia proper would cut off supplies to Russian forces within Ukraine.

Furthermore, giving Russia a guarantee that their territory won't be invaded allows them to more heavily commit their forces to invade Ukraine.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:54:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Putin warns of hitting ‘new targets’ if Kyiv gets new missiles
The Russia president issues a new warning to the West against providing Ukraine with long-range missiles as it attacks Kyiv.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/5/russia-to-strike-new-targets-if-kyiv-sent-long-range-rockets

Putin warned that he would hit new targets if advanced rocket systems were supplied to Ukraine, adding that new arms deliveries to Kyiv are aimed at “prolonging the conflict”.

Moscow “will draw the appropriate conclusions and use our arms…. to strike at those targets which we have not yet been hitting,” the Russian leader said without specifying which targets he meant.

“We believe that the US is deliberately pouring oil on the fire. The US is obviously holding the line that it will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
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Some perspective is needed. Nobody is sending "long range" rockets to Ukraine. They're getting medium range rockets. Long range weapons would allow them to strike the oil & gas facilities in western Siberia, which would deal a crippling blow to the money machine that feeds the military. Ukraine doesn't have that, and isn't getting it (as far as anybody knows). Medium range rockets allow better capacity to strike Russian supply and rear echelon elements, and strike from beyond Russian counterattack range. This "long range" rocket nonsense is pure Kremlin propaganda.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 8:55:10 PM EDT
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Russian Superyacht Now Flies US Flag

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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 9:01:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Some perspective is needed. Nobody is sending "long range" rockets to Ukraine. They're getting medium range rockets. Long range weapons would allow them to strike the oil & gas facilities in western Siberia, which would deal a crippling blow to the money machine that feeds the military. Ukraine doesn't have that, and isn't getting it (as far as anybody knows). Medium range rockets allow better capacity to strike Russian supply and rear echelon elements, and strike from beyond Russian counterattack range. This "long range" rocket nonsense is pure Kremlin propaganda.
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Russia has performed rocket attacks over the entire length and breadth of Ukrainian territory.   Including strikes against their civilian food, energy, and industrial sectors.

Turnabout only seems fair.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 9:08:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/6/2022 9:24:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:


You know why they're doing it, right? (foreign disinfo ops)

Because it works and has for decades. From the anti nuke energy disinfo of the 70's is why we don't have nuclear power here, and even back to the Holodomor, further to now. it works.

And it's a cheap investment. Just leak whatever bullshit to your favorite "journalist" and boom. Piss Dossier'.
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The 4th estate has been a 5th column since before either of us were born
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