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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:14:30 PM EDT
Fresh from the factory
Backstory, having owned several M-1 Carbines over the many (many, MANY) years and wanting to add another one to my current collection (a CMP Inland that has been a safe queen and Blue Sky import marked one that has been my shooter for a couple years) I'd spent the better part of 2018 looking for another USGI made one in the same shape as my CMP one with no luck I decided to take advantage of the Labor Day sale offered by Fulton Armory and buy a new production one as my Xmas present to myself this year. For those whom aren't familiar Fulton Armory makes and restores USGI rifles, their M-1 Carbines being made to the same spec as WWII production models. Fulton Armory I choose the "Service" model with a upgraded Criterion chrome lined barrel. Chrome lining wasn't offered during production of USGI rifles, but I figured this was going to be a "shooter" (500-1000 plus rounds a year is what I'm thinking, I ran that much through my Blue Sky last year) that I want to last my lifetime (I'm 60 now). 12 weeks later we have this 
Fit and finish is excellent IMO, so tight when I field stripped it I needed a small rubber hammer to get the trigger group off. Only markings on the walnut wood stock are this 
Upper receiver is the cleanest I've ever seen, only wear marks are from test firing 
My understanding is FA used CNC machined receivers made by Lewis Machine Tool, bolt is also made by them to USGI specs. The rest of the parts are USGI NOS, I've found a "BE-B" on the trigger group housing so far, hammer is marked "M.I" and the mag release is marked "M". Bad news is I won't be able to test fire it till after the 1st of the year  Work and family issues. I do intend to update this thread as I shoot it the next few months........
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:17:03 PM EDT
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You have been pushing these for a long time.
Im glad you like it. BUT. ITS NOT WORTH THE RIDICULOUS MONEY! |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:22:51 PM EDT
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You have been pushing these for a long time. Im glad you like it. BUT. ITS NOT WORTH THE RIDICULOUS MONEY! |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:23:43 PM EDT
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Cool;
Kicking myself over letting the Bavarians go by 
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:24:49 PM EDT
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blasphemy
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:25:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:30:41 PM EDT
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Why not. My father did not have a 22 so the first gun I ever fired and learned to shoot with was a WW2 bring back. I am sure he would have brought one home if he could but he bought this one from a friend. He brought mostly Jap stuff home.
A new one would even be better |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:34:29 PM EDT
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I guarantee you will shit a kitten when you see the accuracy that Criterion barrel will throw down. Criterion barrels are ridiculous. My dad has an early LRB M14 with the Criterion match grade chrome lined barrel. I don't even have to try, I just point and shoot and shit goes where I want.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:36:05 PM EDT
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I guarantee you will shit a kitten when you see the accuracy that Criterion barrel will throw down. Criterion barrels are ridiculous. My dad has an early LRB M14 with the Criterion match grade chrome lined barrel. I don't even have to try, I just point and shoot and shit goes where I want. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:37:59 PM EDT
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That's rather nice looking.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:43:52 PM EDT
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site.
$800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:52:42 PM EDT
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All the best with the M1. I'm sure it will be a winner.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:56:06 PM EDT
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For the price you paid you could have gotten an exceptional USGI Carbine that would have lasted you your lifetime. You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. On the other, my Winchester is 74 years old. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:58:06 PM EDT
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One thing about the Fulton M1 Carbines is that you almost never see them on the secondary market.
That could be because the owners love them and don't want to sell them OR they don't want to take a huge loss in price selling it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 6:40:39 PM EDT
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On one hand, his rifle costs a bit more than my 1944 Winchester. On the other, my Winchester is 74 years old. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. On the other, my Winchester is 74 years old. Like you mention, I have a new production rifle with a lifetime warranty |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 6:49:53 PM EDT
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One thing about the Fulton M1 Carbines is that you almost never see them on the secondary market. That could be because the owners love them and don't want to sell them OR they don't want to take a huge loss in price selling it. FYI, I did see one on Gunbroker before I ordered mine, it went for $1000-1200 bucks IIRR. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 6:50:47 PM EDT
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site. $800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. Current auction;  Attached FileETA;  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 6:57:31 PM EDT
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Easilly my favorite gun. I carried one on 4 different continents. A NPM is next to me right now.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:01:53 PM EDT
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Easilly my favorite gun. I carried one on 4 different continents. A NPM is next to me right now. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:10:24 PM EDT
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The Chrome lined barrel is nice, i stuck one on a shot out Blue Sky Inland import i picked up in the 80's, the only issue with new chrome Carbine barrels I have (Had) is i had to have a carbide chamber reamer made to set the headspace. It is now my shooter carbine due to the super easy cleanup.
Speaking of chrome, year ago i had LRB stick a Fulton .308 Chrome lined barrel on my Winchester Garand, its my favorite shooter Garand for the same reason! |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:14:08 PM EDT
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Cool; Kicking myself over letting the Bavarians go by  Nice carbine OP |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:18:45 PM EDT
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I really like the M1 carbine, and one of the very few gun sales I regret was selling a really nice Winchester M1 carbine I used to have. I can't fault OP for wanting to have a nice M1 carbine, regardless of what he paid for it. It is up to OP to decide whether getting a high priced, new, carbine of known quality is a better deal than taking a risk on one from CMP for a cheaper price.
I'm not faulting CMP, or Fulton Armory as both are part of the free market economy, and OP is free to buy from either one. I think I would buy a CMP rifle, and put as much as I could afford toward getting the best one my money could buy. Then if necessary, I could always send the rifle off to have a new barrel, trigger group, stock, or whatever else I found unsatisfactory installed. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:24:44 PM EDT
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The Chrome lined barrel is nice, i stuck one on a shot out Blue Sky Inland import i picked up in the 80's, the only issue with new chrome Carbine barrels I have (Had) is i had to have a carbide chamber reamer made to set the headspace. It is now my shooter carbine due to the super easy cleanup. Speaking of chrome, year ago i had LRB stick a Fulton .308 Chrome lined barrel on my Winchester Garand, its my favorite shooter Garand for the same reason! Then I'll send them the CMP and have them check it out. It could use the rear sight moved over to center. That'll give me 3 good carbines, that should hold me a couple years 
CMP is on the top, "Blue" the bottom one |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:26:54 PM EDT
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Nice looking carbine...
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:27:23 PM EDT
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Good price, I quit watching because every time I look, I see THIS. Current auction; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/M1Capture_PNG-764212.JPG ETA; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/ETACapture_PNG-764215.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site. $800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. Current auction; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/M1Capture_PNG-764212.JPG ETA; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/ETACapture_PNG-764215.JPG |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:33:46 PM EDT
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I assumed he meant the For Sale section of the CMP forum, not the actual CMP auction site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site. $800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. Current auction; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/M1Capture_PNG-764212.JPG ETA; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/ETACapture_PNG-764215.JPG When I bought my Garand, they had plenty of Carbines, including Bavarian, lightly used, I wanted a Garand. ETA This shows some came through in 2016, missed those. CMP |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:33:55 PM EDT
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For the price you paid you could have gotten an exceptional USGI Carbine that would have lasted you your lifetime. You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:35:59 PM EDT
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CMP has not had the M1 Carbines (non-auction) for probably 5 or 6 years. When I bought my Garand, they had plenty of Carbines, including Bavarian, lightly used, I wanted a Garand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site. $800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. Current auction; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/M1Capture_PNG-764212.JPG ETA; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/ETACapture_PNG-764215.JPG When I bought my Garand, they had plenty of Carbines, including Bavarian, lightly used, I wanted a Garand. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:38:40 PM EDT
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I've always found Fulton's offerings interesting. Good luck with it OP.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
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A nice Inland USGI listed and sold today for $800 on the CMP site. $800 USGI > $1600 reproduction. Current auction; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/M1Capture_PNG-764212.JPG ETA; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187445/ETACapture_PNG-764215.JPG When I bought my Garand, they had plenty of Carbines, including Bavarian, lightly used, I wanted a Garand. WA State F'd up (like everything) the CMP Program; Must send to an FFL, local NICS, transfer fee, probably tax Unless it has changed that was the status a couple years back after I-594 was shoved up our ass.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:43:47 PM EDT
[#30]
Beautiful rifle OP. I’ve always wanted one.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone just wants to shit on my thread. As I mentioned on my post, I own 1 CMP that I've been offered almost the same as I paid for the FA. I've been offered $800 for my import marked one. As for Cranky ass mentioning buying online, I'm leery of buying a 70 some year old rifle sight unseen. I've known a couple guys who got burned that way buying M-1 Carbines. Like you mention, I have a new production rifle with a lifetime warranty |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:46:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Respectfully, I disagree. This firearm is perfect, and that has a value all its own. Who cares if perfection costs a little more, if perfection is what you want. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3MOA guarantee from Fulton LOL. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:50:37 PM EDT
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Respectfully, I disagree. This firearm is perfect, and that has a value all its own. Who cares if perfection costs a little more, if perfection is what you want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. I always buy myself a nice gun at Xmas time (my join date here is the day I got my 1st Colt 6920.......I'm up to 4 of those now plus 8 other AR builds )
It ain't prefect but it's damn close IMO
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:50:38 PM EDT
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A few months back at a local show here in Alabama, I saw one of Fulton's first reworked carbines for sale....apparently in the beginning they used USGI receivers. This one had a nice WRA receiver, and Fulton Armory paperwork. It was $1100, which seemed fair but I didn't know enough about the early ones to pull the trigger.
If I hit the lottery, I'd definitely buy a Fulton Armory carbine, as I haven't yet heard a bad report about them. I also think they are pretty much one off made, and you get a level of attention that most new guns don't get. Congrats OP, I'll just be poor and stick with unmolested usgi arsenal rebuilds:) |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:52:22 PM EDT
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Lifetime warranty you say... vs an original???
 Attached FileObviously not a carbine but the point stands Nice gun OP! |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:55:06 PM EDT
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I have a very nice Standard Products that was my dads. The local pawn shop has a dead mint Plainfield Machine carbine for around $600. I would be a buyer at $450. It has been there since back in the spring.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:05:34 PM EDT
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Nice rifle, good luck with it and give us a range report after you shoot it.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:06:10 PM EDT
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On one hand, his rifle costs a bit more than my 1944 Winchester. On the other, my Winchester is 74 years old. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this You do realize that people sell them nationally on the interweb thingy and you don't have to look for one locally??? $1600+ Crazy. On the other, my Winchester is 74 years old. Obviously due to the price. ;) Mine is .30WCF which is probably what they were only doing on their limited war time production. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:09:28 PM EDT
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great looking little carbine, you got what you wanted, now go and enjoy it, everyone that has a problem with that, go fuck yourselfs, go be poor someplace else
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:13:19 PM EDT
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Fulton Armory is always very...proud of their offerings.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:20:23 PM EDT
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You have been pushing these for a long time. Im glad you like it. BUT. ITS NOT WORTH THE RIDICULOUS MONEY! 
My only non-frankenstein AR is a FA varmint/predator. They make some very nice weapons. Nice piece you have there OP
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:26:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Looks good!
Expensive or not, who cares? It's yours. If you're happy, that's what counts. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:36:58 PM EDT
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I am a big fan of the M1 Carbine. I have one from most all USGI makers except the really rare ones, and I would LOVE to have a Fulton Armory one. It is somewhere on my big list of things to buy someday, as is their M14 clone. They put out very high quality products. These are not high-powered long range sniper rifles, but they are sure fun as hell to shoot.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:37:28 PM EDT
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What was the Black Friday deal?
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:39:55 PM EDT
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Very nice carbine OP.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:42:02 PM EDT
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I am a big fan of the M1 Carbine. I have one from most all USGI makers except the really rare ones, and I would LOVE to have a Fulton Armory one. It is somewhere on my big list of things to buy someday, as is their M14 clone. They put out very high quality products. These are not high-powered long range sniper rifles, but they are sure fun as hell to shoot. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 8:55:43 PM EDT
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Congrats on the new carbine brother! Yell at me if you wanna try it out in the holler over Xmas break. I’ll be around.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:02:46 PM EDT
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Your entitled to your opinion. The fact is USGI made ones having been running in the $1200-1500 dollar range in my area (Cincinnati) for the past couple years. I've more AR's than most SWAT teams and always liked shooting the Carbine. Having owned most of the commercial copies over the years I decided to try this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You have been pushing these for a long time. Im glad you like it. BUT. ITS NOT WORTH THE RIDICULOUS MONEY! I think this is pretty neat, myself. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:03:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pics or GTFO! |
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