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Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. |
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I love the carbine, and that one looks great.
USGI Carbines are cheaper up here, but still spendy, and they are all restricted like a handgun so that might be part of why they are lower |
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Sweet looking rifle, no question. I'd shoot it.
If I ever get to Iwo Jima I know where two 1903's and an M1 Carbine are buried. They were in my father's foxhole along with his other stuff and got buried by a dozer by accident. He told me where they are. He had to split so he couldn't dig for them. Probably only rust and wood by now. |
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Hard fact of life..... Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. View Quote I've heard him mention his ordered carbine in past threads too, but I don't remember him saying that they were better than USGIs, or really anything other than how excited he was to be getting one. |
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Sweet looking rifle, no question. I'd shoot it. If I ever get to Iwo Jima I know where two 1903's and an M1 Carbine are buried. They were in my father's foxhole along with his other stuff and got buried by a dozer by accident. He told me where they are. He had to split so he couldn't dig for them. Probably only rust and wood by now. View Quote |
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Hard fact of life..... Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. View Quote The OP is excited and happy over his new rifle. Why would you continually try to bash and piss on his happiness? Sometimes it’s better just to not say anything. |
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Surely you can recall what it feels like to get a new firearm you've been wanting for awhile....if so, why try to bring a happy man down? I've heard him mention his ordered carbine in past threads too, but I don't remember him saying that they were better than USGIs, or really anything other than how excited he was to be getting one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hard fact of life..... Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. I've heard him mention his ordered carbine in past threads too, but I don't remember him saying that they were better than USGIs, or really anything other than how excited he was to be getting one. I think that gives me a working knowledge of the firearm and a base to compare. I sold everything but the CMP when I got into building AR's 2012 and decided I want to get back into them. No matter what a know it all 18'er claims decent USGI carbines are getting scarce. Given a choice of wearing out a collectible firearm I choose something that while cost me a few bucks it was something within what I would have spent on myself for Xmas anyway (I'm typing this on a $1800 dollar gaming computer that was my Xmas present 2016, 2017 I bought the Blue Sky and another Colt 6920 ) |
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Hard fact of life..... Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. View Quote |
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In another thread he claimed to have “$50,000 in carbine assets”, is how I believe he put it.
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I had a Plainfield Machine carbine years ago. I paid about $400 shipped for it on auction. It came with some aftermarket version of a folding stock. I sold the stock for about $90 bucks and bought a couple cans of the Korean surplus ammo Sportsmans guide use to sell. Put it in a $25 G.I. carbine stock. Shot the hell out of it with junk gun show G.I. mags. Sold it for more than I paid for it. I think it was $425.
Should have kept it. |
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My current grail gun. I have a Winchester Garand that needs a little brother. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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A shop local to me has a Winchester carbine for 1500 bucks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I offered them less than 1500 bucks.......................they wouldn't take less..............so there it stays
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Hard fact of life..... Every year goes by a USGI will go up in value. Every year goes by a Fulton will go down in value. Its great that you like your carbine, but you have been pushing how its a wise purchase in past threads and I am saying its a very poor choice. View Quote |
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Quoted: In my mind this FA Carbine is what a GI would have been issued new in WWII. It'll be my luck when I go to the next gun show locally (tomorrow) I'll trip over USGI ones in mint condition dirt cheap. I always buy myself a nice gun at Xmas time (my join date here is the day I got my 1st Colt 6920.......I'm up to 4 of those now plus 8 other AR builds ) It ain't prefect but it's damn close IMO View Quote |
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Having owned one, I'd rather have a good Mini-14 as a home defense rifle.
The M-1 Carbine was a flawed concept, using an equally flawed cartridge and bullet. The only useful info I ever got about the Carbine/ctg was Jim Cirillo's comment that JSP bullets seemed to be highly effective as contrasted to mil-spec ball. Sure, collectors love 'em, but that says nothing about real world utility. Collector value of any firearm comes and goes. Seldom goes down, though, but upward cycles come and go. For collectability, and future worth, a certified GI carbine is the way to go, assuming it's genuine, and not mechanically screwed-up. For practical purposes, the Mini-14 and its' 5.56 ctg, have it all over the M-1 Carbine and its' unique ctg. This holds true in non-Free States, where both carbines are not entirely prohibited, as is the AR-15. Unfortunately, it seems as though the ring will be tightened to exclude both the Mini and the Carbine from "allowed' firearms. In such instance, owners of "grandfathered" Mini-14s might want to look into re-habilitating them before such is made impossible due to restrictive State laws. For example, if one's State outlaws certain firearms, one might fond it problematic to send such firearm(s) away for factory-required maintenance/repair, and then have it sent back to original location. Depending on how State laws are written, might be a problem. So, consider sending away such firearms before State laws prevent such. I long ago sent out my Mini for the express purpose of obtaining some factory-fitted spare parts. I mentioned, in passing, that the Mini's accuracy was not what I had expected, and I was a little disappointed. Well, Ruger fitted and headspaced a new bolt to the Mini, and the accuracy was so much improved that I began to consider the Mini in a new light. Best thing I ever did for the Mini, as Ruger replaced the bolt with a tightly-fitted replacement, and the accuracy went up so much that I began to consider it as a real carbine, and not as a toy. if you live in a State where the firearms climate might be changing, then consider repairing your old Mini-14. Just sayin' |
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Having owned one, I'd rather have a good Mini-14 as a home defense rifle. The M-1 Carbine was a flawed concept, using an equally flawed cartridge and bullet. The only useful info I ever got about the Carbine/ctg was Jim Cirillo's comment that JSP bullets seemed to be highly effective as contrasted to mil-spec ball. Sure, collectors love 'em, but that says nothing about real world utility. Collector value of any firearm comes and goes. Seldom goes down, though, but upward cycles come and go. For collectability, and future worth, a certified GI carbine is the way to go, assuming it's genuine, and not mechanically screwed-up. For practical purposes, the Mini-14 and its' 5.56 ctg, have it all over the M-1 Carbine and its' unique ctg. This holds true in non-Free States, where both carbines are not entirely prohibited, as is the AR-15. Unfortunately, it seems as though the ring will be tightened to exclude both the Mini and the Carbine from "allowed' firearms. In such instance, owners of "grandfathered" Mini-14s might want to look into re-habilitating them before such is made impossible due to restrictive State laws. For example, if one's State outlaws certain firearms, one might fond it problematic to send such firearm(s) away for factory-required maintenance/repair, and then have it sent back to original location. Depending on how State laws are written, might be a problem. So, consider sending away such firearms before State laws prevent such. I long ago sent out my Mini for the express purpose of obtaining some factory-fitted spare parts. I mentioned, in passing, that the Mini's accuracy was not what I had expected, and I was a little disappointed. Well, Ruger fitted and headspaced a new bolt to the Mini, and the accuracy was so much improved that I began to consider the Mini in a new light. Best thing I ever did for the Mini, as Ruger replaced the bolt with a tightly-fitted replacement, and the accuracy went up so much that I began to consider it as a real carbine, and not as a toy. if you live in a State where the firearms climate might be changing, then consider repairing your old Mini-14. Just sayin' View Quote |
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here's another carbine thread, one in which we were also sung the gloriousness of the mini-14...
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/the-M1-carbine-is-awesome/5-2066200/ |
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here's another carbine thread, one in which we were also sung the gloriousness of the mini-14... https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/the-M1-carbine-is-awesome/5-2066200/ View Quote If the SHTF the only advantage the Mini offers is again the 5.56 round, I would expect to be able to find ammo easier |
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here's another carbine thread, one in which we were also sung the gloriousness of the mini-14... https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/the-M1-carbine-is-awesome/5-2066200/ View Quote |
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Yours is awesome. This one makes me sad. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50215/AC3509EF-CA09-45C6-A60F-A69877D04F42_jpeg-764599.JPG View Quote |
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Oh God, no. The M1 carbine was crap back then and crap now. Certainly not worth the money that they want for it.
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Having owned one, I'd rather have a good Mini-14 as a home defense rifle. The M-1 Carbine was a flawed concept, using an equally flawed cartridge and bullet. The only useful info I ever got about the Carbine/ctg was Jim Cirillo's comment that JSP bullets seemed to be highly effective as contrasted to mil-spec ball. Sure, collectors love 'em, but that says nothing about real world utility. Collector value of any firearm comes and goes. Seldom goes down, though, but upward cycles come and go. For collectability, and future worth, a certified GI carbine is the way to go, assuming it's genuine, and not mechanically screwed-up. For practical purposes, the Mini-14 and its' 5.56 ctg, have it all over the M-1 Carbine and its' unique ctg. This holds true in non-Free States, where both carbines are not entirely prohibited, as is the AR-15. Unfortunately, it seems as though the ring will be tightened to exclude both the Mini and the Carbine from "allowed' firearms. In such instance, owners of "grandfathered" Mini-14s might want to look into re-habilitating them before such is made impossible due to restrictive State laws. For example, if one's State outlaws certain firearms, one might fond it problematic to send such firearm(s) away for factory-required maintenance/repair, and then have it sent back to original location. Depending on how State laws are written, might be a problem. So, consider sending away such firearms before State laws prevent such. I long ago sent out my Mini for the express purpose of obtaining some factory-fitted spare parts. I mentioned, in passing, that the Mini's accuracy was not what I had expected, and I was a little disappointed. Well, Ruger fitted and headspaced a new bolt to the Mini, and the accuracy was so much improved that I began to consider the Mini in a new light. Best thing I ever did for the Mini, as Ruger replaced the bolt with a tightly-fitted replacement, and the accuracy went up so much that I began to consider it as a real carbine, and not as a toy. if you live in a State where the firearms climate might be changing, then consider repairing your old Mini-14. Just sayin' View Quote If the USGI carbine is flawed, than Ruger's Mini 14 is an abortion |
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There's no denying the vastly different natures of the cartridges, nor denying the overall superiority of the 5.56 ctg over the M-1 Carbine ctg. Numbers don't lie. Yu can argue about the mini all day long, but the essential take-away is the disparity between the cartridges. Where are the serious, modern firearms using the M-1 Carbine cartridge?
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There's no denying the vastly different natures of the cartridges, nor denying the overall superiority of the 5.56 ctg over the M-1 Carbine ctg. Numbers don't lie. Yu can argue about the mini all day long, but the essential take-away is the disparity between the cartridges. Where are the serious, modern firearms using the M-1 Carbine cartridge? View Quote |
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Quoted: Mine is the jewel of my collection. National Postal Meter stamped Bavaria Forrestry Police. View Quote |
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Quoted: I'm not one to argue with site staff being a newbie, but how many wars were fought by Americans using a Mini 14? How many nations adopted the Mini 14 for decades for their militaries? USGI carbines have been found in every imaginable conflict, or war since their inception in the 40s. Also for every LEO dept using a mini 14, another used usgi carbines so that's a wash. If the USGI carbine is flawed, than Ruger's Mini 14 is an abortion View Quote Mods and Staff should NEVER play the 'newbie' card themselves, nor allow such to go unmentioned when they see it being played. Every single one of us was new here at some point. Now, all that stuff aside, the mini-14 has been used in conflicts and police actions world-wide. See this thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Ruger-Mini-14-Facts-History-and-Information-/52-490595/ M-1 Carbine is dead on account of its' lackluster cartridge. Other firearms, based on the 5.56 ctg, are going strong. |
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There's no denying the vastly different natures of the cartridges, nor denying the overall superiority of the 5.56 ctg over the M-1 Carbine ctg. Numbers don't lie. Yu can argue about the mini all day long, but the essential take-away is the disparity between the cartridges. Where are the serious, modern firearms using the M-1 Carbine cartridge? View Quote face it, the only reason you're slobbing the mini-14 knob is because of where you live |
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ITT, shitposters come to the fore to fling poo all over a man's purchase. The fact that he bought it with his own goddamn money, and that HE'S happy with it seems to be irrelevant.
Enjoy your carbine, OP. |
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Whether you are a newbie or not, the quality of your post is what counts, as long as you stay within the Site Code of Conduct. Don't ever be reluctant topolitely contradict anyone, as long as you have the facts to back you up. That specifically includes Site Staff. Mods and Staff should NEVER play the 'newbie' card themselves, nor allow such to go unmentioned when they see it being played. Every single one of us was new here at some point. Now, all that stuff aside, the mini-14 has been used in conflicts and police actions world-wide. See this thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Ruger-Mini-14-Facts-History-and-Information-/52-490595/ M-1 Carbine is dead on account of its' lackluster cartridge. Other firearms, based on the 5.56 ctg, are going strong. View Quote I don't view the M1 carbine as a HD rifle in my collection, but are Scorpions, B&T subguns, Sig MPX, MP5 guns dead on account of their pistol ballistics?.....if not, than you got to acknowledge that the .30carbine is every bit a capable as the 9mm, if not more so. |
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ITT, shitposters come to the fore to fling poo all over a man's purchase. The fact that he bought it with his own goddamn money, and that HE'S happy with it seems to be irrelevant. Enjoy your carbine, OP. View Quote |
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