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Posted: 10/24/2004 3:02:35 PM EST
Gonna shoot a cars gas tank to see if it will explode, like in the movies.

Looks like they are using AR's? Only saw the promo clip for a second.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:05:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:05:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 3:06:31 PM EST by -Scope-]
I've tried shooting metal gas cans with all kinds of ammo. I tried lead, copper FMJ, steel jacket, tracer, and even inciendiary into the side of the can. The ONLY time I ever got it to ignite is when I shot a tracer over the open top of the can, igniting the fumes. Even then, that took a few shots.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:06:11 PM EST
10bux says it dont do anything but dump gas on the ground. Ive seen C3 videos where they do this test. the only way it is possible is to shoot a tracer round in it. Or shoot a hole and then as vapors escape shoot again and hope ya get a spark and set it off. Just shooting into one wont do shit.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:06:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 3:09:00 PM EST by codycoyote]
nevermind.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:08:36 PM EST
I've already seen it. Nothing happens. I did learn that both the ar15 and ak47 will penetrate all the way through the entire car.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:12:18 PM EST
On one of the shows, Adam (L) made reference to Jamie Hyneman (R) having previously been a member of the Special Forces.

I haven't been able to find any further info related to that. Does anyone know if that is true?


Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:23:14 PM EST
I liked the one where they shot different guns at bullet resistant plexiglass that they like to stand behind when they test stuff; didn't give them as much protection as they thought!

I like those guys though, they've made it clear they like guns.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:28:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
On one of the shows, Adam (L) made reference to Jamie Hyneman (R) having previously been a member of the Special Forces.

I haven't been able to find any further info related to that. Does anyone know if that is true?


www.exn.ca/news/images/exn2004/02/19/exn20040219-mythbusters.jpg




Found this for FWIW.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:32:57 PM EST
i lik teh ones were they shoot gunz
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 3:37:26 PM EST
Shoot it enough times and it will catch on fire. Not blow up, but it will burn.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:16:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
On one of the shows, Adam (L) made reference to Jamie Hyneman (R) having previously been a member of the Special Forces.

I haven't been able to find any further info related to that. Does anyone know if that is true?


www.exn.ca/news/images/exn2004/02/19/exn20040219-mythbusters.jpg




Who's the dummy in the middle?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:19:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 10:20:23 PM EST by Triumph955i]
Buster.


Originally Posted By Donith:

Who's the dummy in the middle?

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:21:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Donith:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
On one of the shows, Adam (L) made reference to Jamie Hyneman (R) having previously been a member of the Special Forces.

I haven't been able to find any further info related to that. Does anyone know if that is true?


www.exn.ca/news/images/exn2004/02/19/exn20040219-mythbusters.jpg




Who's the dummy in the middle?



Why thats Buster, the Mythbusters test dummy of course!

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:37:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
I've already seen it. Nothing happens. I did learn that both the ar15 and ak47 will penetrate all the way through the entire car.



That's what stood out for me as well in that episode. A car is worth ZERO cover when it comes to rifle fire. I'd think the block would be ok but the body might as well be wet toilet paper for all the protection it provides.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:52:51 PM EST
Good episode.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:07:49 PM EST
They had an AR, AK, and a .308, if i recall correctly. Its been many months... corrections anyone?

- BG
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:16:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:18:32 PM EST
AR, AK, HK91
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:21:09 PM EST
And if they think thats cool, they should use a .220 Swift! That thing would go from one end to the other, including the fucking engine block.



But if they want to "reproduce" the results, I suggest something with HE in it. Like a 40mm grenade.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:37:25 PM EST
I was so pissed that they didnt blow the thing up at the end.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:40:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:07:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:

Originally Posted By MisterFloppy:
I was so pissed that they didnt blow the thing up at the end.



They use the same car in a later episode to bust a bunch of traffic radar myths!

Tell me Cadillac don't make a hell of a car.




Well they better blow it up sometime.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:11:37 AM EST
University: BA Russian Literature

What the hell does one do with a BA in Russian Literature....
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:13:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:26:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
University: BA Russian Literature

What the hell does one do with a BA in Russian Literature....



get sent to some soviet country/russia as part of the special forces should the cold war go hot?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 9:51:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
University: BA Russian Literature

What the hell does one do with a BA in Russian Literature....



I have a buddy who is a Foreign Area Officer (LTC) with one of those degrees. He also had anumber of other degrees. Hell of a guy.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 9:54:59 AM EST
That guy held a pretty tight group when debunking the myth about hiding behind a car door too. Very good episode!!!!
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 9:56:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
I've already seen it. Nothing happens. I did learn that both the ar15 and ak47 will penetrate all the way through the entire car.



That's worth noting!
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:01:27 AM EST
Great show. My favorite is the sigarette-toilet one. They put that mannequin through hell.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:03:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
They had an AR, AK, and a .308, if i recall correctly. Its been many months... corrections anyone?

- BG




I believe the .308 was a FAL


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:05:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By GabbasaurusRex:
Great show. My favorite is the sigarette-toilet one. They put that mannequin through hell.



HECK! Did you see where they dropped him down a broken elevator??


SGatr15
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:08:12 AM EST
I'm just glad they have the new female assistants. The tattooed blond with the tattoos that can weld is HOT.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:09:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:
I'm just glad they have the new female assistants. The tattooed blond with the tattoos that can weld is HOT.



Feeling a little redundant today ?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:13:16 AM EST
Train indigeneous personnel in foreign countries for insurgency operations should we be in conflict with them. Much like SpecOps troops trained Saudis before the Gulf War.

Can you say "Green Beret"??
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:15:21 AM EST
Saw it last night. What a cool show. The production values have shot up since last season!

I thought they had a couple of "lovely assistants" on board!

Shooting the car was pretty cool. Think too: New cars are made with thinner sheet metal (when they're sheet metal of course) and in general, lighter. Auto penetration, even from front to back (if you miss the block), should be a snap.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:18:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By echo6:

Originally Posted By norman74:
I'm just glad they have the new female assistants. The tattooed blond with the tattoos that can weld is HOT.



Feeling a little redundant today ?



haha, that's what happens when an employee walks in while I'm in the middle of an arfcom post.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:23:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:24:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:
I'm just glad they have the new female assistants. The tattooed blond with the tattoos that can weld is HOT.



Well, show the (c)lass, dammit!
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:25:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ratters:
Shoot it enough times and it will catch on fire. Not blow up, but it will burn.



about 5 years back at an outdoor range with lax supervision, someone had a junk lawnmower. Since it was that person's target and not mine he let loose with a full mag of .223, nothing. Shooting buddy and I both opened up with either a MAK90 or AR, we caught the lawnmower on fire! Gas tank leaked fuel and a spark ignited it, way cool!
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:27:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By lvgunner777:
That guy held a pretty tight group when debunking the myth about hiding behind a car door too. Very good episode!!!!



No car door would hold up to rifle bullets, I think they need to redo the car door episode with handgun bullets. Dunno what a 9mm will do. Anyone got a car they want to loan me?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:29:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

Originally Posted By lvgunner777:
That guy held a pretty tight group when debunking the myth about hiding behind a car door too. Very good episode!!!!



No car door would hold up to rifle bullets, I think they need to redo the car door episode with handgun bullets. Dunno what a 9mm will do. Anyone got a car they want to loan me?



9mm penetrates car doors.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:37:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 10:38:42 AM EST by USPC40]

Originally Posted By norman74:
I'm just glad they have the new female assistants. The tattooed blond with the tattoos that can weld is HOT.



Scottie Chapman
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:49:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:54:16 AM EST
I can't believe you guys haven't seen the "Deadly Weapons" video. I thought it was required viewing. It debunks all of the Hollywood myths all set to a cheesy '70s porn soundtrack.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:57:43 AM EST
In the movies and on TV we've all seen thousands of cars explode.
During the Cerro Grande Fire in Los Alamos in 2000, I watched dozens of cars on fire, they all burned, and not a single gas tank exploded...
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:04:30 AM EST
"Deadly weapons" is a good one - I heard it was used as a training aide in several police departments.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:07:05 AM EST
It was an HK:



AR & AK & HK:


I recorded this segment, just no spae to host it. WMV file is about 6 MB.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:08:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:
I can't believe you guys haven't seen the "Deadly Weapons" video. I thought it was required viewing. It debunks all of the Hollywood myths all set to a cheesy '70s porn soundtrack.



Got a link?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:08:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 11:11:39 AM EST by legalese77]
good show, entertaining to watch...leaves much science to be desired, however.

eta: if you want to test whether or not rounds can defeat a car door you sure don't need to destroy a whole car...just go down to the junkyard and get you some parts. ask me how I know
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:23:29 AM EST
They also had an episode where they took "improvised armor" to the range. They shot everything from phone books, a deck of playing cards, and lexan of of various thicknesses. They didn't shoot a bible, but shot a book of similar thickness. They rounds tested were .22lr, .357, and .30-06. If a .22 penetrated, they didn't need any further testing.

Another favorite is the testing with "magic" bullets made of ice and meat.
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