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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:29:19 PM EDT
[#1]
The moral of the story
Don't drink and drive. It's just that easy. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:29:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Money is a lot better then prison time after he crashes and kills someone.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:30:08 PM EDT
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The moral of the story Don't drink and drive. It's just that easy. It really is. Drink AT HOME if you're driving. He could've just as well have had 3-4 Cokes. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:30:52 PM EDT
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Don't drink and drive. Way too many people killed by asshats who thought they weren't impaired.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:31:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:32:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Oh, alright. I'm in for potential shenanigans.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:35:31 PM EDT
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3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:35:40 PM EDT
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Cops.
Maybe he should plead to letting them shoot his dog? |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:36:13 PM EDT
[#9]
I know not to drink and drive.. I can always remember people at the bar calling me a pussy because I would only drink 2 beers and leave 3 hours later. I don't want to pay for that shit or have it on my record..
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:36:31 PM EDT
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He'll have to take his lumps. Glad no one was hurt by his bad decision.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:36:43 PM EDT
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Nary a single fuck.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:38:39 PM EDT
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After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck Stupid hurts. Don't drink and drive. It really is simple. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:40:12 PM EDT
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3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick. OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:41:05 PM EDT
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people don't generally get pulled over for drunk driving unless they are driving kind of poorly
0.13 is considered "medium" level of drunkenness, where people are kind of fucked up but can still hide it fairly well 0.02-0.03 BAC: No loss of coordination, slight euphoria and loss of shyness. Depressant effects are not apparent. Mildly relaxed and maybe a little lightheaded. 0.04-0.06 BAC: Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of reasoning and memory, lowering of caution. Your behavior may become exaggerated and emotions intensified (Good emotions are better, bad emotions are worse) 0.07-0.09 BAC: Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired, .08 is legally impaired and it is illegal to drive at this level. You will probably believe that you are functioning better than you really are. 0.10-0.125 BAC: Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time and hearing will be impaired. Euphoria. 0.13-0.15 BAC: Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reduced and dysphoria (anxiety, restlessness) is beginning to appear. Judgment and perception are severely impaired. 0.16-0.19 BAC: Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a "sloppy drunk." 0.20 BAC: Felling dazed, confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand or walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people experience nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened. 0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents. 0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken. 0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia. 0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to respiratory arrest. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:41:51 PM EDT
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OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick. OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each. who serves a 12 oz draft? |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:41:52 PM EDT
[#16]
In on one
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:42:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Good. Stupid hurts.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:43:06 PM EDT
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After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck huh? |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:43:49 PM EDT
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In many states a DUI can temporary impair your rights to own a firearm. The Feds also have talked about extending the Launtenburg rule to encompass DUI and other misdemeanors, other than domestic violence. Keep that in mind.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:44:33 PM EDT
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I dont drink much. but when i do its sometimes hard to accurately say how many drinks I had. Maybe i start out thinking I'm only gonna have three. Well after three, inhibitions are starting to go down and I decide maybe a fourth. Then a couple friends start buying shots. Maybe I lose track at about 5 or 7 drinks.
Now if i were dumb enough to drive in such a state and was pulled over "I lost count somewhere between five and seven" might not be the best answer to how much have you been drinking? I might claim 3 or 4. So my solution is simple. I rarely drink alcohol. Its been about 6-weeks since my last drink. will probably be a few more weeks before my next. When i do drink alcohol i have a designated driver who never consumes alcohol. Not someone who says I wont drink tonight, but someone who completely abstains. As soon as i order that first drink the DD gets me keys. Period. If that person is not available then i dont drink. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:44:35 PM EDT
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Lol how does 3-4 beers cause you to crash and kill someone that wouldn't wind up happening anyway?
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:45:20 PM EDT
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3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick. True. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:46:16 PM EDT
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The moral of the story Don't drink and drive. It's just that easy. Exactly |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:46:43 PM EDT
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Lol how does 3-4 beers cause you to crash and kill someone that wouldn't wind up happening anyway? Depends on the person. Maximum legal BAC is set at a standard level because a certain BAC effects people generally the same way, even though it may take more or less than 3-4 beers to get there. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:47:50 PM EDT
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who serves a 12 oz draft? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick. OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each. who serves a 12 oz draft? That was my point, the poster I originally quoted seemed to be thinking in terms of 3-4 "drinks" which would be a can or bottle of beer and not the big draft that it probably was. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:48:04 PM EDT
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The reason the cop pulled him over is because that cop said he crossed the double lines...In shitty commie NY they now have rumble strips on average roads now. My SF said he didn't and sure as hell would of known if he did... The cop was just sitting on the road bared as shit looking for a collar probably.. My SF is a dumb ass because it was even on the news saying that cops were out in full force for DWI's because of Halloween being on a weekday ad all the parties being on this weekend.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:49:24 PM EDT
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huh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck huh? Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:58:15 PM EDT
[#28]
My deceased cousin would not feel much pity for your step dad. The baby she's holding is now 17. Karen never got to see her grow up.
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/22058939.html |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 9:58:16 PM EDT
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Two weeks ago, my friend asked me to join in on a "Get drunk for science" project. (He is a DUI attorney) where 5 of us were test subjects. They served us "Vodka and Cranberry"... well, except for me. I was the "ringer"... just drank water and acted drunk.
ANYWAY! Where I was going with this was a couple of things I learned from the other subjects. With all that they drank, one blew a .15, two blew a .08 and the other blew a .05 and they were all sloshed pretty good. The other thing the attorneys taught me is, as you drink throughout the night, your BAC goes up right? .01--.03--.05--.07--.09--.12--.15 Now you stop and .15--.12--(***) .09--.07--.05--.03 (***)... is where people get in trouble. You are now coming down and "feeling" sober and ok to drive. But you are still LEGALLY drunk. He may have had only a few drinks like he said. but if he is not a regular drinker and lightweight, hasn't eaten... a few drinks can screw you up. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:01:47 PM EDT
[#30]
Sucks to be him. Don't drink and drive. Pretty simple.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:02:02 PM EDT
[#31]
.13 is not "close" to .08
.09 is close to .08 and he did not have only 3 beers to achieve that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:02:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck huh? Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out. One of the weekends of the year where the most drunks are out on the highway and you honestly believed the cop had to lie to nail your stepfather? If one isn't drunk, it's not hard at all to wait. Another one will be along any minute now. The bars just closed here. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:04:01 PM EDT
[#33]
I've had family members killed by drunk drivers.
No pity for OPs stepfather. Sorry.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck huh? Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out. Unless there is a major screw up, get ready to pay and pay A LOT. Like my DUI attorney buddy says, They can lessen the sentence for rapists, murders and thieves but DUI? Forgetaboutit. There is no mercy for them. I cannot speak for NY but here in CA, the DMV also gets involved. Its a nightmare. Get a GREAT attorney and one that will tell you the truth. Not sell you on "Oh, You can beat this and will get cleared" I am not an attorney but I sure did learn alot from the team that tested all of us. At the end of the day, I am just GRATEFUL that your stepdad did not kill anyone. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:06:31 PM EDT
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There are three types of people:
People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've had family members killed by drunk drivers. No pity for OPs stepfather. Sorry. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are three types of people: People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:13:48 PM EDT
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There are three types of people: People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. so you are in lot #3? or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive? my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups? |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:13:48 PM EDT
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Probably people who have never drank and drove. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are three types of people: People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. I wish that were the case. Damn you caught my grammar. 
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:14:55 PM EDT
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so you are in lot #3? or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive? my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are three types of people: People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. so you are in lot #3? or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive? my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups? I'm making no assumptions partner, only you can decide where you fall and what it means. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish that were the case. Damn you caught my grammar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are three types of people: People that have never drunk and drived People that drink and drive and were caught People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet) Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental? For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone. I wish that were the case. Damn you caught my grammar.  Oh and I was staring at what I wrote and said "That doesn't look right either" |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:18:50 PM EDT
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No sympathy from me. There's no excuse whatsoever for drinking and driving.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:20:30 PM EDT
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In after progressive retardation. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:44:23 PM EDT
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My deceased cousin would not feel much pity for your step dad. The baby she's holding is now 17. Karen never got to see her grow up. http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/22058939.html  Fuck drunk drivers.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:45:14 PM EDT
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people don't generally get pulled over for drunk driving unless they are driving kind of poorly..... Umm, not true. If you are coming home from work after a late shift you will get pulled over more often--has NOTHING to do with how you're driving. Cops, they be fishing. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:49:12 PM EDT
[#46]
I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable.
The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 10:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable. The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 11:01:49 PM EDT
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I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable. The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided. I hear they're going to lower it to .05 soon. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 11:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable. The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided. Why is that your opinion?
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Posted: 10/26/2013 11:04:32 PM EDT
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The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided. I'd bet people who've had loved ones smeared all over the pavement from drunk drivers would disagree with your opinion. |
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