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Posted: 10/26/2013 8:28:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 8:28:42 PM EST by fnub315]
After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:29:19 PM EST
The moral of the story


Don't drink and drive.


It's just that easy.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:29:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 8:30:10 PM EST by Toothpicksandkatchup]
Money is a lot better then prison time after he crashes and kills someone.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:30:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sel366:
The moral of the story


Don't drink and drive.


It's just that easy.
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It really is. Drink AT HOME if you're driving. He could've just as well have had 3-4 Cokes.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:30:52 PM EST
Don't drink and drive. Way too many people killed by asshats who thought they weren't impaired.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:31:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:32:35 PM EST
Oh, alright. I'm in for potential shenanigans.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:35:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 8:36:46 PM EST by Blue_Monkey]
3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:35:40 PM EST
Cops.

Maybe he should plead to letting them shoot his dog?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:36:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 8:36:35 PM EST by fnub315]
I know not to drink and drive.. I can always remember people at the bar calling me a pussy because I would only drink 2 beers and leave 3 hours later. I don't want to pay for that shit or have it on my record..
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:36:31 PM EST
He'll have to take his lumps. Glad no one was hurt by his bad decision.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:36:43 PM EST
Nary a single fuck.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:38:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By fnub315:
After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck
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Stupid hurts. Don't drink and drive. It really is simple.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:40:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey:
3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick.
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OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:41:05 PM EST
people don't generally get pulled over for drunk driving unless they are driving kind of poorly

0.13 is considered "medium" level of drunkenness, where people are kind of fucked up but can still hide it fairly well



0.02-0.03 BAC: No loss of coordination, slight euphoria and loss of shyness. Depressant effects are not apparent. Mildly relaxed and maybe a little lightheaded.

0.04-0.06 BAC: Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of reasoning and memory, lowering of caution. Your behavior may become exaggerated and emotions intensified (Good emotions are better, bad emotions are worse)

0.07-0.09 BAC: Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired, .08 is legally impaired and it is illegal to drive at this level. You will probably believe that you are functioning better than you really are.

0.10-0.125 BAC: Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time and hearing will be impaired. Euphoria.

0.13-0.15 BAC: Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reduced and dysphoria (anxiety, restlessness) is beginning to appear. Judgment and perception are severely impaired.

0.16-0.19 BAC: Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a "sloppy drunk."

0.20 BAC: Felling dazed, confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand or walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people experience nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened.

0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.

0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken.

0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia.

0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to
respiratory arrest.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:41:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tit_Dirt:

OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each.
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Originally Posted By Tit_Dirt:
Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey:
3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick.

OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each.


who serves a 12 oz draft?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:41:52 PM EST
In on one
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:42:27 PM EST
Good. Stupid hurts.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:43:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By fnub315:
After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck
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huh?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:43:49 PM EST
In many states a DUI can temporary impair your rights to own a firearm. The Feds also have talked about extending the Launtenburg rule to encompass DUI and other misdemeanors, other than domestic violence. Keep that in mind.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:44:33 PM EST
I dont drink much. but when i do its sometimes hard to accurately say how many drinks I had. Maybe i start out thinking I'm only gonna have three. Well after three, inhibitions are starting to go down and I decide maybe a fourth. Then a couple friends start buying shots. Maybe I lose track at about 5 or 7 drinks.

Now if i were dumb enough to drive in such a state and was pulled over "I lost count somewhere between five and seven" might not be the best answer to how much have you been drinking? I might claim 3 or 4.

So my solution is simple. I rarely drink alcohol. Its been about 6-weeks since my last drink. will probably be a few more weeks before my next. When i do drink alcohol i have a designated driver who never consumes alcohol. Not someone who says I wont drink tonight, but someone who completely abstains. As soon as i order that first drink the DD gets me keys. Period. If that person is not available then i dont drink.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:44:35 PM EST
Lol how does 3-4 beers cause you to crash and kill someone that wouldn't wind up happening anyway?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:45:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey:
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True.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:46:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sel366:
The moral of the story


Don't drink and drive.


It's just that easy.
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Exactly
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:46:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Sheddy:
Lol how does 3-4 beers cause you to crash and kill someone that wouldn't wind up happening anyway?
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Depends on the person.

Maximum legal BAC is set at a standard level because a certain BAC effects people generally the same way, even though it may take more or less than 3-4 beers to get there.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:47:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:


who serves a 12 oz draft?
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Originally Posted By Tit_Dirt:
Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey:
3-4 beers shouldn't put the average guy at .13 unless he downed them real quick.

OP said it was 3-4 draft beers though, so there was probably more than 12 oz in each.


who serves a 12 oz draft?

That was my point, the poster I originally quoted seemed to be thinking in terms of 3-4 "drinks" which would be a can or bottle of beer and not the big draft that it probably was.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:48:04 PM EST
The reason the cop pulled him over is because that cop said he crossed the double lines...In shitty commie NY they now have rumble strips on average roads now. My SF said he didn't and sure as hell would of known if he did... The cop was just sitting on the road bared as shit looking for a collar probably.. My SF is a dumb ass because it was even on the news saying that cops were out in full force for DWI's because of Halloween being on a weekday ad all the parties being on this weekend.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:49:24 PM EST
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huh?
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Originally Posted By fnub315:
After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck



huh?



Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:58:15 PM EST
My deceased cousin would not feel much pity for your step dad. The baby she's holding is now 17. Karen never got to see her grow up.

http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/22058939.html
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:58:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:01:47 PM EST
Sucks to be him. Don't drink and drive. Pretty simple.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:02:02 PM EST
.13 is not "close" to .08
.09 is close to .08

and he did not have only 3 beers to achieve that.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:02:36 PM EST
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Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By fnub315:
After a HS football game he and others went to a bar for a couple of drinks. He had about 3 to 4 draft beers, hung out for a while and left for home. On the way home, about a mile from home he got pulled over.. Shit sucks and I feel bad because I know my parents don't have a shit load of money and this don't help them. On the other hand, he knew what he was doing ...the cop said he is rite at the limit and even lower at the station later. But on the ticket it says he blew a .13 (NY limit is (.08)..And now it will probably cost a shit load of money...Fuck



huh?



Exactly my point.. I honesty thing the cop juiced it up or something.. obviously the lawyer will figure the shit out.

One of the weekends of the year where the most drunks are out on the highway and you honestly believed the cop had to lie to nail your stepfather?

If one isn't drunk, it's not hard at all to wait. Another one will be along any minute now. The bars just closed here.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:04:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 9:04:45 PM EST by Airborne_Infantryman]
I've had family members killed by drunk drivers.

No pity for OPs stepfather. Sorry.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:06:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:06:31 PM EST
There are three types of people:

People that have never drunk and drived
People that drink and drive and were caught
People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet)

Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental?

For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:10:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:13:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jherm77:
There are three types of people:

People that have never drunk and drived
People that drink and drive and were caught
People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet)

Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental?

For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone.
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so you are in lot #3?

or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive?
my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:13:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Probably people who have never drank and drove.
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Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Originally Posted By jherm77:
There are three types of people:

People that have never drunk and drived
People that drink and drive and were caught
People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet)

Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental?

For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone.
Probably people who have never drank and drove.


I wish that were the case. Damn you caught my grammar.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:14:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By par0thead151:

so you are in lot #3?

or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive?
my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups?
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Originally Posted By par0thead151:
Originally Posted By jherm77:
There are three types of people:

People that have never drunk and drived
People that drink and drive and were caught
People that drink and drive and were not caught (yet)

Guess which one is likely the largest group yet the most judgmental?

For the record I drink at home unless i'm riding with someone.

so you are in lot #3?

or YOU make the assumption YOU are the only one who does not drink and drive?
my wife does not drink, she drives me. where do i fit in your 3 groups?


I'm making no assumptions partner, only you can decide where you fall and what it means.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:17:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:18:50 PM EST
No sympathy from me. There's no excuse whatsoever for drinking and driving.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:20:30 PM EST

In after progressive retardation.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:44:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MMGUT:
My deceased cousin would not feel much pity for your step dad. The baby she's holding is now 17. Karen never got to see her grow up.

http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/22058939.html
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Fuck drunk drivers.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:45:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:

people don't generally get pulled over for drunk driving unless they are driving kind of poorly.....

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Umm, not true. If you are coming home from work after a late shift you will get pulled over more often--has NOTHING to do with how you're driving. Cops, they be fishing.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:49:12 PM EST
I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable.

The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:56:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable.

The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided.
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I hear they're going to lower it to .05 soon.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 10:02:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:
I never drink and drive but the current DWI limit of .08 is kind of silly. .10-.12 is more reasonable.

The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided.
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Why is that your opinion?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 10:04:32 PM EST
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The DWI focus in law enforcement today is, in my opinion misguided.
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I'd bet people who've had loved ones smeared all over the pavement from drunk drivers would disagree with your opinion.
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