My P320 Failed Without Even Dropping It

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Posted: 8/8/2017 9:40:46 PM EST

He hits it a couple times with a mallet and BOOM.

Sig really dropped the ball and trying to hide it with their carefully worded press release hasn't done them any favors...

Watch the video.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/p320-failed-without-even-dropping-no-plans-test/

And for the doofuses that only read thread titles, my thread title is the article title.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:43:33 PM EST

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I bet the Sig owners here that have been giving Glock owners such a hard time lately are now regretting doing so.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:44:54 PM EST

[#2]

I dont have a sig, but how does a glock respond to the same "test"?

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:44:56 PM EST

[#3]

Looks like the trigger is not even moving.... the may be a more complex issue than previously thought.....

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:45:39 PM EST

[#4]

I own a sig p228 and a Glock 19. They're both great. That being said. The army should go with Glock.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:47:00 PM EST

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all 14 of my P series have been great, no regrets

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:48:13 PM EST

[#6]

Someone PM me when they are selling for post rebate M&P Shield prices.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:48:28 PM EST

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I bet they look really nice sitting in your safe, being taken out to be petted a couple times a year.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:48:42 PM EST

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lol

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:49:34 PM EST

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It won't fire because Glock is partially tension while P320 is full tension.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:55:06 PM EST

[#10]

Did it go off with hit on the back of the grip?

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:55:40 PM EST

[#11]

I still like my 320

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:56:57 PM EST

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Wow.

I had so idea. This is really bad.

I played with a P320 at the gun store and decided the trigger was frighteningly light for a gun without any safety, and not I am thrilled at that decision.

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:58:28 PM EST

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I dont have a sig, but how does a glock respond to the same "test"?

just tried it with a G19, took 30 full on blows with no affect.

not real scientific, but its a start.... wish I had a 320 now to compare to.....

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It won't fire because Glock is partially tension while P320 is full tension.

I did not realize that..... wow....

Posted: 8/8/2017 9:59:37 PM EST

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High speed guys did choose Glock. The fact that they announced that the frame and slide need to be reworked on the 320 says it all.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:00:07 PM EST

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And someone told me I should throw away my XD for a 320...

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:01:26 PM EST

[#16]

I saw a thread a couple days ago full of posters saying the danger of the 320 was all bullshit.

I wonder what they have to say now.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:02:06 PM EST

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It won't fire. The FP spring in the glock isn't under enough tension.

Gaston still stands firm, reoolute and vindicated against wave after wave of wannabes.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:04:33 PM EST

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I dont have a sig, but how does a glock respond to the same "test"?

This

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Someone PM me when they are selling for post rebate M&P Shield prices.

This

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Did it go off with hit on the back of the grip?

and this

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:08:41 PM EST

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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:09:27 PM EST

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It won't fire. The FP spring in the glock isn't under enough tension.

Gaston still stands firm, reoolute and vindicated against wave after wave of wannabes.

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I dont have a sig, but how does a glock respond to the same "test"?

It won't fire. The FP spring in the glock isn't under enough tension.

Gaston still stands firm, reoolute and vindicated against wave after wave of wannabes.

Whats funny is sig lickers said glock didn't have an R&D department because the put out the same old shit with a safety.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:11:31 PM EST

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Its physically impossible for a Glock to fire without pulling the trigger. The trigger safety has to be depressed so it will travel upward and unblock the firing pin safety. And the trigger wont move backward when dropped as passive safety will lock it.

Skip to 3:10

How a Glock Works (with Glock Cutaway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThsdG0FNdc

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:11:54 PM EST

[#22]

This just keeps getting more interesting.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:12:32 PM EST

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At the end of the day, the P320 is nothing but a glorified P250, which received much fanfare and many contracts, until its issues also became apparent.

SIG does not make great guns as a rule anymore, there was a time where they were built in Germany, had pinned in breech-blocks and worked extremely well and were very accurate.

That time is long since passed, SIG's QC problems are spread into the P2xx line now.

If you want something that will go "To Hell and Back" buy an hammer fired HK or Glock.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:12:33 PM EST

[#24]

Get a Glock and

Fagetaboutit

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:14:25 PM EST

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Not at all. The reasons I won't buy glock are because I don't don't shoot them well, and Gaston is a scumbag. I shoot the 320 very well, and like the modular concept. BTW, it's my one and only sig. I'll send my gun in and see what happens. If I get it back and don't like it I'll buy a shield or another 1911.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:14:44 PM EST

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I just went out and tried the same test with my glock.

this happened:

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:16:38 PM EST

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I just went out and tried the same test with my glock.

this happened:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8422/7611447568_79e95ba768_z.jpg

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And it still didn't fire

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:19:29 PM EST

[#28]

SIG P320 Drop Test Failure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Oz6krEH_I

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:21:19 PM EST

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And it still didn't fire

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I just went out and tried the same test with my glock.

this happened:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8422/7611447568_79e95ba768_z.jpg

And it still didn't fire

DAMMIT!

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:27:01 PM EST

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I have Sigs and Glocks, carried both for work. In 20 years slinging a gun, I have never dropped a pistol, nor hit one with a hammer. I'll be very careful with my 320 I guess.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:31:27 PM EST

[#31]

IBCR (in before contract recission)

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:31:49 PM EST

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The Glock fanboi in me giggles with Glee

However I like Sig and have been saddened by what it has become and and cautiously hopeful this might sink Cohen

So Sig can make serious grim German tools again instead of sticker and paint job special editions of questionable quality for flat bill bro dozer drivers .

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:32:10 PM EST

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Attached File

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:33:27 PM EST

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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:33:31 PM EST

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The Glock fanboi in me giggles with Glee

However I like Sig and have been saddened by what it has become and and cautiously hopeful this might sink Cohen

So Sig can make serious grim German tools again instead of sticker and paint job special editions of questionable quality for flat bill bro dozer drivers .

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Yeah. I like the p320 alot and hope they can resolve this while keeping the trigger pull the same.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:33:32 PM EST

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The Glock fanboi in me giggles with Glee

However I like Sig and have been saddened by what it has become and and cautiously hopeful this might sink Cohen

So Sig can make serious grim German tools again instead of sticker and paint job special editions of questionable quality for flat bill bro dozer drivers .

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Virtus commands you!

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:34:41 PM EST

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Posted: 8/8/2017 10:36:31 PM EST

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I bet the Sig owners here that have been giving Glock owners such a hard time lately are now regretting doing so.

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Not really. The rabid, douchey Glock people are only that way due to the hordes of fucking 1911 mouthbreathers that infest this place.
Beating up on those sad bastards is pretty much passe' for the Glockers. I guess that they've heard so much shit from the retards, that
they feel better trying to beat up on some Sig people for a change. BTW, fucking wake me in 30 or 40 years when the number of people shot accidentally
by SIGs when dropped equals the number of people accidentally shot by Glocks when taking the fucking things apart.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:38:30 PM EST

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derp

why are they wearing rifle plates when they said they pulled the bullets from the rounds?

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:38:46 PM EST

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stupid question but are these guys using live ammo for these "tests"?

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:40:03 PM EST

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Yes of course they're using live ammo, how else would you do it?!

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:40:48 PM EST

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It won't fire. The FP spring in the glock isn't under enough tension.

Gaston still stands firm, reoolute and vindicated against wave after wave of wannabes.

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So True!!!

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:41:35 PM EST

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someone post the DJ Khaled 'anotha one' meme for me please.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:41:54 PM EST

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stupid question but are these guys using live ammo for these "tests"?

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Primed cases.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:42:02 PM EST

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Beat by 12 seconds.

Anyway, small pistol primers are pretty loud.

I found few primers on my bench a while back, though I was 99 percent sure they were SPP, I'd rather be safe than sorry. So I went outside smashed them with a hammer. Quite entertaining.

Posted: 8/8/2017 10:43:12 PM EST

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Not really. The rabid, douchey Glock people are only that way due to the hordes of fucking 1911 mouthbreathers that infest this place.
Beating up on those sad bastards is pretty much passe' for the Glockers. I guess that they've heard so much shit from the retards, that
they feel better trying to beat up on some Sig people for a change. BTW, fucking wake me in 30 or 40 years when the number of people shot accidentally
by SIGs when dropped equals the number of people accidentally shot by Glocks when taking the fucking things apart.

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two completely different issues, and one has nothing to do with the gun but with the user.