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Posted: 6/16/2009 1:16:07 PM EST

What do you envision for yourself and our country?


Me?

I envision paying about 20% more in various tax schemes.
I expect inflation will be the only way TRILLIONS can be written off.
I expect the bright folks who had a plan and were on target to retire at 50 will work until thier death.

I expect to tell my Grandkids, about when America was great.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:19:37 PM EST
Freedom
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:20:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 1:24:10 PM EST by Apollos]
Originally Posted By StagArmslower:
Freedom




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlf9ZLnrtiE&feature=related
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:23:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 1:23:40 PM EST by gmtmaster]
The Discovery Channel should do a show on it modeled after "Life after people" That woud be cool.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:24:01 PM EST
After that commie shit stain leaves I see: People wiser about the damage that a lying leftist shit-ca-go community organizer can do to a once free and prosperous country.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:26:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By StagArmslower:
Freedom


Ha

You really think all the stuff that Obama does is going to go away when he leaves? Like Medicare, Welfare, Social Security, Food stamps, govt health care? Nope, the stuff that's getting passed now is never coming off the books. Even in countries like the UK that have had nanny state programs for decades and are now collapsing under their own weight, no one's talking about taking away benefits.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:27:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 1:27:57 PM EST by Texkaw]
Originally Posted By Partisan:
After that commie shit stain leaves I see: People wiser about the damage that a lying leftist shit-ca-go community organizer can do to a once free and prosperous country.


Were they wiser after Carter? Clinton? Yes, but only for a short time.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:27:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
The Discovery Channel should do a show on it modeled after "Life after people" That woud be cool.


That was my thought as soon as I read the title of the thread. This whole situation is keeping me from wanting kids at the moment. There won't be anything for them at this rate.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:28:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Partisan:
After that commie shit stain leaves I see: People wiser about the damage that a lying leftist shit-ca-go community organizer can do to a once free and prosperous country.


I hope your right about people getting wiser...but I have my doubts.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:29:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:30:08 PM EST

I kinda expect years of investigations and indictments too.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:31:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

I kinda expect years of investigations and indictments too.




And executions.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:32:59 PM EST
You can tell your Grankids about 'When America was great"...

However... don't be surprised if you end up baking in an oven for saying so...

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:34:36 PM EST
I think the .GOV will sieze such control in the next few years that many freedoms will be threatened or eliminated...

I will not stand by quietly as this occurs and thus, I expect to be "at odds" with those in power...

I also expect to pay dearly for my resistance...
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:43:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 1:46:46 PM EST by Hedonist]
Originally Posted By RarestRX:

Is this from:
some obama era terrorist attack?
China's answer to non payment of debt from a bankrupt USA?
obama's kids playing with the launch buttons?
a mass suicide?
or just obama's ultimate goal for America?

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:46:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 1:46:30 PM EST by oldschool63]
In 4 years will be living in the stone age.


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:50:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

I kinda expect years of investigations and indictments too.


You wish. Instead it will be renaming streets, weeks, months and holidays after "the first african american president".

Just as they are sanitizing reality now, they will sanitize it then.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:51:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By greatwhite:
Originally Posted By Partisan:
After that commie shit stain leaves I see: People wiser about the damage that a lying leftist shit-ca-go community organizer can do to a once free and prosperous country.


I hope your right about people getting wiser...but I have my doubts.


Obama will not be going anywhere till 2016. I dont see it happening. After he has gone, things will be the same shitty mess we are in right now, only worse. History has a way of repeating itself but no one is listening. The Republic cannot be restored because of the culture war that began in the 1980's, when the power of the people, if you wish to call it that, became urbanized and the family unit was destroyed.

There is so much wrong, it cant be fixed. I am afraid for my grandkids and im afraid for my way of life. Im 66 years old, so in a way, it doesnt matter that much for me. Im toast, pretty much. My grandkids will never know what its like to go out into the desert that i live in, away from people, and just be alone for awhile. If it be federal, state, or local government, someone will be in their face with a stupid law watching them with binoculars to make sure that they do nothing that is not socially acceptable.

We have met the enemy and its US!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:53:41 PM EST
After Obama? You mean in 50 years or so when he's passed on? Socialist dictators don't give up power voluntarily my friend. Obama's supporters were talking about repealing term limits for the presidency before Obama even won the election!

As for the fallout of Obama's Socialist Revolution, look at South Africa after Nelson Mandela. THAT is what I envision (and have predicted since he won the Democratic nomination) for America.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 1:58:54 PM EST
Once you start all that free stuff there is no way politically to end it.

The best we can hope for is a total collapse and start over.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:06:19 PM EST
This whole situation is keeping me from wanting kids at the moment. There won't be anything for them at this rate.


We just celebrated our 22 wedding anniversary without kids. I didn't see much future for kids way back then. One thing is for sure the money that wasn't spent on kids was sure fun.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:08:15 PM EST
what makes you think he will ever step down?



facist dictators dont usually give up power just because the calender says it is time.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:23:36 PM EST
New poll today showed that 40% of Americans view themselves a Conservative, 35% as Moderate and 21% as liberal. This is the most ever viewing themselves as conservative. there is hope.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:46:11 PM EST

Some of these posts are scaring me, worse than the reality of right now.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 2:59:45 PM EST
Installation of the first President of the Reunited States of America.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:03:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Hedonist:

Life after obama.

[little kid voice]Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? [/little kid voice]
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:08:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

What do you envision for yourself and our country?


Me?

I envision paying about 20% more in various tax schemes.
I expect inflation will be the only way TRILLIONS can be written off.
I expect the bright folks who had a plan and were on target to retire at 50 will work until thier death.

I expect to tell my Grandkids, about when America was great.



I fear that we'll be looking at:

* Bond market dislocation and subsequent reigning in of government spending and the end of various government "entitlement" programs.
* A generation long depression (The Greater Depression as it will be known).
* Terrorist attacks, to include nuclear and biological before the end of Obama's time in office

Frankly, if the Messiah makes it to the end of this four-year term, he probably ought to count his lucky stars, and I'm not referring to him dying in office, either. He's dirty as the day is long.

John
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:09:40 PM EST
There will be no freedom after Obama.

While Dems will be organizing, campaigning, massaging the media and going door to door to sign up more freeloaders and illegals to vote, most conservatives will be bitching about how Romney is a mormon, or how Palin is dumb as a post, or how this candidate is wrong or that one is worse.

Nope, enjoy eight long blanking years of Obama, followed by eight more of his hand-picked and groomed successor.

We all get what we deserve . . .
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:11:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist: What do you envision for yourself and our country?
I get to laugh at black people even more, and I'm going to add some dumb white ones to list because of their "Mistake of 2008".

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:17:42 PM EST
The country never rolled back the damage that Roosevelt did to the Constitution. We'll be so fooked after this guy, I don't think we'll ever catch back up with the third world countries. The world will move on, and we'll be looking up from the dust. We were able to innovate because we were free, and we had little baggage to drag around. We aint as free, we'll be less so, and we'll be awash in baggage and debt. People in other countries have the benefit of using tech we invented without having had to spend the time and treasure we did to invent it. People in other countries aren't stupid, they have better test scores than our kids have, and they're willing to work harder than our welfare cases are.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:17:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By motown_steve:
After Obama? You mean in 50 years or so when he's passed on? Socialist dictators don't give up power voluntarily my friend. Obama's supporters were talking about repealing term limits for the presidency before Obama even won the election!

As for the fallout of Obama's Socialist Revolution, look at South Africa after Nelson Mandela. THAT is what I envision (and have predicted since he won the Democratic nomination) for America.


This.

Many of us will never live to see an "Amerika" after that shitbag. He's here to stay, and unfortunately, America doesn't have the balls to do what's necessary to fix the problem.

Even though, it's spelled out for us in plain english in the fucking declaration bill of rights and constitution.

See: Iranian Presidential Elections - 2009

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:22:50 PM EST

I hope someone saved a restore point to rollback to.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:23:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By 762DM:
New poll today showed that 40% of Americans view themselves a Conservative, 35% as Moderate and 21% as liberal. This is the most ever viewing themselves as conservative. there is hope.

There would be hope, if The One didn't mortgage our forever, and broke the social contract between the people and the government.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:32:10 PM EST
I predict.

8 years of Michelle Obama as POTUS..

(if Barry can't manage to get term limits repealed).
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:33:25 PM EST
It all hinges on whether China will be willing to finance all of Obamas grand ideas(which I doubt they will)Obama didn't notice our country is broke. That is why we are printing money, and borrowing from china just to sustain what we currently have going, much less all the shit Obama is planning.
Look how well socialist type polocies have been going for CA. What is the left going to do when our creditors(China mainly)say enough is enough?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:34:42 PM EST
Have you ever played Fallout 3?

It'll be like that, only with no Liberty Prime.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 3:46:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

I hope someone saved a restore point to rollback to.


Hmm. I'm liking 1791 except WITH the technology, but with all the freedoms then, and the population too.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:03:19 PM EST
I see me poorer. That's what I see.
Anything beyond that....
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:19:27 PM EST
......restricted, too.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:24:38 PM EST
I see people trying to survive ala Mad Max, because the economy got fucked beyond all repair and the we got in a nuclear war with some assholes.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:28:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Partisan:
After that commie shit stain leaves I see: People wiser about the damage that a lying leftist shit-ca-go community organizer can do to a once free and prosperous country.


Bullshit. People didnt learn shit after LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and now Obama. The morons elect a leftist dumbass every 20 years or so.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:30:43 PM EST


Reminds me of FALLOUT 3. Awesome
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:33:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:35:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 5:45:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By Unit91:


Reminds me of FALLOUT 3. Awesome


Probably because that pic is concept art from Fallout 3
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