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Posted: 5/22/2020 6:55:50 PM EDT
Fun thread time.
Orange Hobby 1/350 scale Knox class frigate. She's going to be USS Pharris, FF-1094.  WHAT'S IN THE BOX???!?!  The major components. Being a resin kit, there are large casting stubs that need to be removed.  Etch and turned brass parts. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 6:57:58 PM EDT
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Build thread sub
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Posted: 5/22/2020 6:58:41 PM EDT
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Cool in to see how it turns out.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 7:42:31 PM EDT
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Hmm... ya know what? An escort needs something to escort.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 7:56:21 PM EDT
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Cool.
My BIL was a Boiler Tech on the USS Pharris in the early/mid 80s. About the same time Tom Clancy blew it's bow off in RSR. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:15:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool. My BIL was a Boiler Tech on the USS Pharris in the early/mid 80s. About the same time Tom Clancy blew it's bow off in RSR. Nice. RSR is why I'm building her as Pharris. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:20:49 PM EDT
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If I built waterline, I'd call it good. Have to clean up the cuts to mate the lower hull.
Hunter and prey. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:27:39 PM EDT
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Commander Edward Morris in command?
/rm’ed the actor |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:33:48 PM EDT
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Nice.
...and because I'm a nerd...."if it were TRULY a scale replica, what would it weigh at 1/350 of the original....?" Yikes! still 26,000lbs of displacement - or 11.8 Long Tons (4,066 Long Tons original). What in the hell would an 18" model have to be made of to reach that weight? 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Commander Edward Harris in command? Morris. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:40:57 PM EDT
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Mack and aft superstructure cut. This resin smells like Testors orange tube cement when cut. I like it. Nice to have the smell around, even if I haven't used it since I was a kid.
I have to decide if I want the hangar extended or not. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. ...and because I'm a nerd...."if it were TRULY a scale replica, what would it weigh at 1/350 of the original....?" Yikes! still 26,000lbs of displacement - or 11.8 Long Tons (4,066 Long Tons original). What in the hell would an 18" model have to be made of to reach that weight? That's heavier than some WW II destroyers and WW I light cruisers. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 8:55:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Morris. Hah, oops! I had Ed Harris on my mind from watching Critical Drinker review the Top Gun trailers. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:02:45 PM EDT
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It's a shame noone ever produced a kit of this in plastic.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:36:33 PM EDT
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Pretty familiar. The big changes from my time on one in the mid-70s is the hurricane bow and the superstructure continued back to the front of the torpedo magazine amidships. Probably some electronics changes too but they aren't on the model, yet.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:39:45 PM EDT
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Are you building Pharris with everything for'd of the ASROC launcher at the bottom of the Atlantic?
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. ...and because I'm a nerd...."if it were TRULY a scale replica, what would it weigh at 1/350 of the original....?" Yikes! still 26,000lbs of displacement - or 11.8 Long Tons (4,066 Long Tons original). What in the hell would an 18" model have to be made of to reach that weight? That's not quite how scaling works. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you building Pharris with everything for'd of the ASROC launcher at the bottom of the Atlantic? I did contemplate doing a diorama of it, hence the pic with the Victor. The hull is hollow cast, so adding decks and bulkheads would be easy. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:44:37 PM EDT
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There is only one True Frigate.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:49:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not quite how scaling works. Yeah, I know...but in the interest of stupid fun what ifs.....  Kinda like XKCD's What If pages, just with less math...or actual scientific practicality. Joking aside, still want to see how the model finishes out! |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is only one True Frigate. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/USS_Constitution_fires_a_17-gun_salute.jpg <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Can't argue with that! |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:51:35 PM EDT
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Nice. I need to find a 1/350 Tico to build as CG-52.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is only one True Frigate. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/USS_Constitution_fires_a_17-gun_salute.jpg  |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:57:11 PM EDT
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Knox class, very cool. Seen a lot of them when I was on a tender in the 80's
I was briefly on the USS Edward McDonnell (the Eddiemac) until her decom. in 1988. Great ships to serve on. Very similar in design.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:57:31 PM EDT
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So how much would the model weigh if the weight is correct for the scale?
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. I need to find a 1/350 Tico to build as CG-52. They make the VLS version too. 
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Posted: 5/22/2020 9:59:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool. My BIL was a Boiler Tech on the USS Pharris in the early/mid 80s. About the same time Tom Clancy blew it's bow off in RSR. I was a BT myself, they had good steam plants. |
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Posted: 5/22/2020 11:26:23 PM EDT
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Nice. Props to Orange Hobby. Noticed something and took a closer look. The lower hull pour stubs double as locating tabs. The upper hull has slots cast in. I'm glad I noticed before I cut them off.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 11:29:11 PM EDT
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I loved building ship models so I could float them in the pool and sink them with BB gun salvos.
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Posted: 5/22/2020 11:35:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/22/2020 11:47:55 PM EDT
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Build her out as FF1082 Elmer Montgomery. I spent a year of work ups and Desert Storm attached as Air Det HSL-36 det 9.
Spent time on Pharris in 89. She was out of Norfolk. Also time on Bowen and Paul. All my helo dets were on Knox class. Good boats. Single screw but we were good as an ASW team. Always had fresh water.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:48:15 AM EDT
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Not done yet?
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:11:06 PM EDT
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Good thing I got some new putty. Filling begins tomorrow.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:13:49 PM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:23:11 PM EDT
[#34]
Nice! I'll be keeping track of this...have fun w/ the build!
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:30:11 PM EDT
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Used to watch my dad do these. I had to do the snap together ones. Do you paint them too?
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:33:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. ...and because I'm a nerd...."if it were TRULY a scale replica, what would it weigh at 1/350 of the original....?" Yikes! still 26,000lbs of displacement - or 11.8 Long Tons (4,066 Long Tons original). What in the hell would an 18" model have to be made of to reach that weight? It would be 0.21 lbs or 3.5 oz. Scale weight is 1/350^3 of the real weight. Basically the model us 1/350 as long, 1/350 as wide, and 1/350 as tall so 0.21 lbs would make it the same density as the real one. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:34:39 PM EDT
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"frigate" is fun to say.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:39:16 PM EDT
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Yep, goofy-ass looking Knox class.
No wimmenz allowed onboard! I think... |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:40:31 PM EDT
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When I was on the Forrest Sherman(DD-931) I built a model of her, shot it a couple times to simulate torpedo hits and then sunk it in a friend's fish tank.
I thought it was hilarious at the time. 
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Posted: 5/24/2020 12:32:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, goofy-ass looking Knox class. No wimmenz allowed onboard! I think... No, no women while they were in commission. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:06:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice. ...and because I'm a nerd...."if it were TRULY a scale replica, what would it weigh at 1/350 of the original....?" Yikes! still 26,000lbs of displacement - or 11.8 Long Tons (4,066 Long Tons original). What in the hell would an 18" model have to be made of to reach that weight? umm check your math. It's 1/350th as long AND 1/350th as wide AND 1/350th as tall. 1/350x350x350 the weight. Even 1/350 of the original would be around 11.5 - 12 tons |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:14:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I built waterline, I'd call it good. Have to clean up the cuts to mate the lower hull. Hunter and prey. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/145185/20200522_171658-1428281.jpg |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:14:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Knox class, very cool. Seen a lot of them when I was on a tender in the 80's I was briefly on the USS Edward McDonnell (the Eddiemac) until her decom. in 1988. Great ships to serve on. Very similar in design. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/63650/eddiem_jpg-1428426.JPG Garcia class, The class before the Knoxes. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:17:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a BT myself, they had good steam plants. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cool. My BIL was a Boiler Tech on the USS Pharris in the early/mid 80s. About the same time Tom Clancy blew it's bow off in RSR. I was a BT myself, they had good steam plants. Once they finally figured out how to really run the P-fired boilers. Then the realized that gas turbines were better as far as weight and size for ships of that size. Anything less than 1200 pounds meh |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:18:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:44:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is only one True Frigate left. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/USS_Constitution_fires_a_17-gun_salute.jpg There were six of them.
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Posted: 5/24/2020 3:43:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once they finally figured out how to really run the P-fired boilers. Then the realized that gas turbines were better as far as weight and size for ships of that size. Anything less than 1200 pounds meh P fired were a pain in the ass, supercharger on a boiler? , but boy they would make steam fast and ran great when it all worked right. ACC guy nightmare as far as controls. Would do great today with modern technology though. Nothing wrong with the M's at 600 psi. Hell the Aux. ship had A types at only 400. Then again, I'm sitting here making 2500 psi....still a BT after all these years. Those small Frigates were great, even with a single screw were pretty damn fast. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 1:25:51 PM EDT
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That took a lot of putty.
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:22:06 PM EDT
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USS Vreeland FF-1068, School of Hard Knox, Loyal Order of the Big Screw, Alumni.
OP, can you put a ruler in the next update pic to give it some scale? Hard to tell how big it is. I remember building a Monogram kit USS Ramsey FFG-2 as a kid. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 2:42:25 PM EDT
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@X-CaptHook
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