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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:01:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Shocker...
Who didn't see this coming. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shocker... Who didn't see this coming. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:04:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!!
The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:04:18 PM EDT
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Shocker...
Who didn't see this coming. I'm surprised they pushed so soon. I guess they gotta strike will the iron is hot. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:06:40 PM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist.
So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:50 PM EDT
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:55 PM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:08:21 PM EDT
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.....and so it begins.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:08:44 PM EDT
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If one child is saved...
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:09:17 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm so surprised, keep up the fight Apple.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:09:25 PM EDT
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Thanks George Bush
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:09:27 PM EDT
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I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:09:42 PM EDT
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I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. This. If the Feds want in, the Feds need to crack the phones themselves. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:10:15 PM EDT
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Sure, 1 million each, software is 1 Billion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shocker...
Who didn't see this coming. You think they wouldn't pay it in a heartbeat? It's not their money they're throwing around. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:10:36 PM EDT
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Did somebody spill something over here?
On this slope? 'Cause it seems a little slippery to me. Just sayin'... |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:00 PM EDT
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They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:07 PM EDT
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. This. It has Jack and shit to do with security or national defense. It has everything to do with circumventing the constitution |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:10 PM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. Once Apple starts unlocking phones for any reason, the government (at any level) will want them to unlock phones for every reason. That's why it is so important that Apple tells the FBI to FOAD. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Unpoosible!
We have been masturbated in the other thread with the assurance that the FBI and the other fine law enforcement types that ONLY the one time would an iPhone be defiled. 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:29 PM EDT
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Give em an inch, they take a mile
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:11:50 PM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? ETA: Looks like I may have misread the post. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:12:11 PM EDT
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Give em an inch, they take a mile Up your ass. ( I am not saying that as an insult, but in agreement. ) |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:14:30 PM EDT
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Good for Apple, but I can't help but think if the FBI came to them wanting to break into Cliven Bundy's phone Apple would have done it already.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:14:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:14:59 PM EDT
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Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? You can already set emergency contact info that displays on the iOS lock screen, if you choose it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:15:42 PM EDT
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They want ALL phones unlocked.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:17:18 PM EDT
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Of course they do, and much more.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:19:01 PM EDT
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? 
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:19:35 PM EDT
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So... that took like, what, an hour until it was abused?
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:19:59 PM EDT
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Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? If you put on the Iphone and keep it there...and not on the cloud... You are pretty secure...as long as Apple doesn't topple over. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:21:09 PM EDT
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They will fold and do it.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:21:45 PM EDT
[#32]
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Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? Fappening happened because people set up their phone to store all their shit in the cloud. Simple solution is to just not do that. None of my shit is stored in iCloud. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:23:31 PM EDT
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:25:19 PM EDT
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They will fold and do it. As long as Apple can make a buck from resisting, they will resist. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:25:21 PM EDT
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This will boost iPhone sales
Great until you forget your password and reset your phone |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:25:39 PM EDT
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They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Was that supposed to be easier than looking at the back of the phone? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:27:15 PM EDT
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint, then yes. You could expect the backdoor and keys to get leaked. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:29:05 PM EDT
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Unpoosible! We have been masturbated in the other thread with the assurance that the FBI and the other fine law enforcement types that ONLY the one time would an iPhone be defiled.
Yep. Usual BS line. The terrorism boogeyman needs to die. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:29:25 PM EDT
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If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. I thought the plan was to generate a new version of FW that does not include the pin code penalty timer and data wipe and also allows for code entry via USB serial. With that they can connect it to a computer and brute force it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:31:09 PM EDT
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So it was one phone, see nothing to worry about citizens. Umm but now it's 9 phones, just because. Next it'll be all the phones, because fuck you is why.
Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:31:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. As much as I would like to know what is in the phone, the cost is not worth it. Get the info from the NSA. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:31:28 PM EDT
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If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Once they have the precedent that they can force software companies to write malware on demand, what's to prevent them from mandating that the cracked OS, with whatever payload the government desires, be secretly distributed via automatic updates to ALL devices? Hint: Answer starts with 'n' and ends with 'othing.' Not just Google, Microsoft, and Apple, either. Any company that distributes code (such as, say, auto makers) can, and probably will be, compelled to do the same thing. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:32:37 PM EDT
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This will boost iPhone sales Great until you forget your password and reset your phone I'm going to be looking at switching to the Iphone. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:33:36 PM EDT
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I thought the plan was to generate a new version of FW that does not include the pin code penalty timer and data wipe and also allows for code entry via USB serial. With that they can connect it to a computer and brute force it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. I thought the plan was to generate a new version of FW that does not include the pin code penalty timer and data wipe and also allows for code entry via USB serial. With that they can connect it to a computer and brute force it. That's their "just the tip", plan. I'm not up to date with the latest phone malware, but it used to be extremely easy for Android phones to get absolutely compromised once someone was in. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:33:49 PM EDT
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Well I'm goddamned shocked.
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:34:36 PM EDT
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Once they have the precedent that they can force software companies to write malware on demand, what's to prevent them from mandating that the cracked OS, with whatever payload the government desires, be secretly distributed via automatic updates to ALL devices? Hint: Answer starts with 'n' and ends with 'othing.' Not just Google, Microsoft, and Apple, either. Any company that distributes code (such as, say, auto makers) can, and probably will be, compelled to do the same thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Once they have the precedent that they can force software companies to write malware on demand, what's to prevent them from mandating that the cracked OS, with whatever payload the government desires, be secretly distributed via automatic updates to ALL devices? Hint: Answer starts with 'n' and ends with 'othing.' Not just Google, Microsoft, and Apple, either. Any company that distributes code (such as, say, auto makers) can, and probably will be, compelled to do the same thing. Oh imagine the fedgov being able to hack yer car. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:35:45 PM EDT
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Oh imagine the fedgov being able to hack yer car. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Once they have the precedent that they can force software companies to write malware on demand, what's to prevent them from mandating that the cracked OS, with whatever payload the government desires, be secretly distributed via automatic updates to ALL devices? Hint: Answer starts with 'n' and ends with 'othing.' Not just Google, Microsoft, and Apple, either. Any company that distributes code (such as, say, auto makers) can, and probably will be, compelled to do the same thing. Oh imagine the fedgov being able to hack yer car. Feel safer? |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? ETA: Looks like I may have misread the post. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? ETA: Looks like I may have misread the post. I know Android lets the user specify what information is seen on the lock screen, mine shows my name and an email address. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:39:15 PM EDT
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Question, If the Fbi gets what they need for these phones, will this enable them to get into a phone thats not in their hands but still with their target in use. If Apple hands over the keys and backdoor retro-fit kits, which they were literally forced to engineer at gunpoint then yes. You could also expect it to get hacked soon. Once they have the precedent that they can force software companies to write malware on demand, what's to prevent them from mandating that the cracked OS, with whatever payload the government desires, be secretly distributed via automatic updates to ALL devices? Hint: Answer starts with 'n' and ends with 'othing.' Not just Google, Microsoft, and Apple, either. Any company that distributes code (such as, say, auto makers) can, and probably will be, compelled to do the same thing. Oh imagine the fedgov being able to hack yer car. Feel safer? I'd do what ever I had to to buy a car that didn't have a computer in it. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:39:53 PM EDT
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Apple needs to start selectively backdooring the iPhones of any legislators or prosecutors that support this, until they get the message and the dogs are called off.
I am not fond of Apple. I DETEST techno-Orwellian states. The FBI can piss on a live wire. |
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