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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:49:18 PM EDT
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"If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Why do you hate freedom. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:52:00 PM EDT
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Why do you hate freedom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Why do you hate freedom. Do you see the quotations? OP is pro apple.. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:53:52 PM EDT
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Do you see the quotations? OP is pro apple.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Why do you hate freedom. Do you see the quotations? OP is pro apple.. Was going to post this. |
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Posted: 2/23/2016 11:57:28 PM EDT
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They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Good |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:08:09 AM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Good They weren't trying very hard; most iPhones have the serial number printed right on them, and all of them have the IMEI number printed on them. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:09:02 AM EDT
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color me surprised
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:14:08 AM EDT
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Why do you hate freedom. Do you see the quotations? OP is pro apple.. Was going to post this. You guys need to recalibrate your sarcasm meters. 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:15:23 AM EDT
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This is the fucking internet I'll take what ever I want out of context.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:17:27 AM EDT
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Who could possibly have forseen this?
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:19:07 AM EDT
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.....and so it begins. Yup. I might be changing my mind on this now. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:21:56 AM EDT
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Where are all of the pro FBI guys saying they should do it for this one phone just this one time? It looks like everyone else was right...
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:22:55 AM EDT
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Where are all of the pro FBI guys saying they should do it for this one phone just this one time? It looks like everyone else was right... Still want apple to help? I've been on the Fuck the FBI train since it left the station. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:26:38 AM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. That is just business, now they can sell 200 new replacement phones. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:30:03 AM EDT
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Thanks George Bush You should be thanking Bill Clinton, all the wide scale wire-tapping and FBI ease-of-access to electronic devices became law as part of the 1996 omnibus crime control act. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:34:28 AM EDT
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Yup. I might be changing my mind on this now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.....and so it begins. Yup. I might be changing my mind on this now. Did you support the DOJ originally? |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 12:44:34 AM EDT
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Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. Why on Earth would they help recover lost used phones when they can SELL NEW replacements? All about the $$ with APL. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:00:47 AM EDT
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Why on Earth would they help recover lost used phones when they can SELL NEW replacements? All about the $$ with APL. As opposed to, oh, any other corporation on Earth, that just provides you with goods and services because they love you so much? |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:03:36 AM EDT
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If you think the greatest threat to your freedom is anybody other than the United States Federal government then you better recalibrate your views.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:53:36 AM EDT
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But, but we need to keep the homeland safe from the terrorists.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 1:57:45 AM EDT
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They weren't trying very hard; most iPhones have the serial number printed right on them, and all of them have the IMEI number printed on them. IMEI may be on there, but Apple wants the serial number to find the owner. Not every Iphone has a Sim, so there is not a serial number on the SIM slot. I agree with one of the other posters, as Apple just wanted to sell more and they would have nothing to gain by helping. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:20:31 AM EDT
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IMEI may be on there, but Apple wants the serial number to find the owner. Not every Iphone has a Sim, so there is not a serial number on the SIM slot. I agree with one of the other posters, as Apple just wanted to sell more and they would have nothing to gain by helping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They weren't trying very hard; most iPhones have the serial number printed right on them, and all of them have the IMEI number printed on them. IMEI may be on there, but Apple wants the serial number to find the owner. Not every Iphone has a Sim, so there is not a serial number on the SIM slot. I agree with one of the other posters, as Apple just wanted to sell more and they would have nothing to gain by helping. How long do you suppose it would take to figure out which phone company bought those phones, contact them and find out who they sold them to, then contact 200 people who don't have their phones anymore? Then multiply that times everyone who has a phone that doesn't know who it belongs to. It wouldn't be just call 200 people and done. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:36:53 AM EDT
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy.
Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:04:03 AM EDT
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. I am ok with Apple not giving any information.. They weren't going to give me anything. They would contact the owners and let them know to contact me about recovering their phone. I would have zero contact until the owner contacted me. Why should they be in the lost phone recovery business? Clearly nobody gives a shit. There's actually a point there. If Apple didn't provide the info, the owner would likely just go buy a new iPhone. Win for Apple! If the owner cared at all, they'd use the "Where's my Phone" app. Probably they're happier to have a new shiny phone. Go figure. Nice that you care enough to try though. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:04:27 AM EDT
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. Every GOP presidential candidate got their pussy wet at the thought of Apple of complying and bending over. Chump has said that he'll lead a boycott against Apple, if they don't comply. I wish more people cared about the 4th amendment. I wish the EFF had more lobbying power. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:24:13 AM EDT
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Every GOP presidential candidate got their pussy wet at the thought of Apple of complying and bending over. Chump has said that he'll lead a boycott against Apple, if they don't comply. I wish more people cared about the 4th amendment. I wish the EFF had more lobbying power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. Every GOP presidential candidate got their pussy wet at the thought of Apple of complying and bending over. Chump has said that he'll lead a boycott against Apple, if they don't comply. I wish more people cared about the 4th amendment. I wish the EFF had more lobbying power. Mark my words. This will become a huge election battle line that will swing independent and under 40 votes. The timing is impeccable. I shit you not that's all I hear in passing conversation of folks. I tell it like it is though, not just on a forum. This will go to the Supreme Court. Right around election time would be my guess. This is a single issue vote to get, and like pot it will drive them to the polls. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:43:01 AM EDT
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I'm not an Apple fan, but I support them on this. I think it's totally fucked up that the .gov(fbi) would pursue this matter in court, IMO it's just another sign of overreaching .gov rubbing their reach in the faces of Americans, they will get a favorable decision and Apple will capitulate. My question is with all of the sneaky unethical shit the .gov does, why didn't they just reach out to some of these hacker punks, either recruit a few and put them in the .gov payroll or just drop 10k in an account for a few of these hacker punks to unlock the phones.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:49:16 AM EDT
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Sure, 1 million each, software is 1 Billion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:52:06 AM EDT
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Danged war on drugs...
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:33:44 AM EDT
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Just the tip.
Oh wait, here's another nine. And the Brooklyn DA has another 175. And every po-dunk PD in America will suddenly find thousands more that need unlocking for investigations into everything from terrorism to littering. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:44:54 AM EDT
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism.  He's in his late 30s/early 40s.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:49:46 AM EDT
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Sure, 1 million each, software is 1 Billion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:51:29 AM EDT
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I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.Someone needs to remind him that he also swore to protect and defend the Constitution form DOMESTIC enemies. Those are, more and more, employed by FedGov. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:54:27 AM EDT
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They want ALL phones unlocked. Winner, Winner big chicken dinner. That is the end goal of all this. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:57:02 AM EDT
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It turns out behind the canals nose is a bunch of people that want to rape all your rights because freedom
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Posted: 2/24/2016 2:58:06 PM EDT
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I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.The commentors on breitbart overwhelmingly side with the FBI and big gov. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:39:47 PM EDT
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.The commentors on breitbart overwhelmingly side with the FBI and big gov. Just wait until every other federal agency takes note and figures out how they can get a judge to order innocent and uninvolved 3rd party companies to do their bidding via the All Writs Act. They're cool with it now, but when the EPA, OSHA, the EEOC, HUD, BATFE, and the IRS start abusing the AWA in the same manner as the FBI the screaming on Breitbart will be epic. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:44:10 PM EDT
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. I was just working with a former military guy yesterday. He's a construction contractor now. The topic came up somehow. He thought that the government should have access to all of the phones because terrorism. He's in his late 30s/early 40s.The commentors on breitbart overwhelmingly side with the FBI and big gov. Andrew is rolling in his grave. 
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Posted: 2/24/2016 3:59:05 PM EDT
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"If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. "If Apple doesn't do it, then the terrorists will also win. iPhones also can hold child pornography; you don't endorse pedophilia do you? iPhones could also hold sensitive drug dealer information; do you want your kids dropping out of kindergarten to honk on a crackpipe in some alley? If you don't stand with the DOJ, then you are standing with the terrorists, pedophiles, and drug dealers." If Apple does it the terrorist have already won by abridging our freedoms. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:04:19 PM EDT
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It's all Bill Gates' fault.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:09:56 PM EDT
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Why can't the NSA do it? I thought they were all powerful or maybe they're all morons too?
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:20:08 PM EDT
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I wonder if China asked Apple to unlock the p\iPhone of a Chinese citizen would Apple put up as big a fight? Or would they roll over for their Chines masters and have the phone unlocked quicker than it takes to get one set up at the iPhone store?
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:20:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:23:05 PM EDT
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unpossible. Assurances were made.
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:26:32 PM EDT
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Who didn't see this coming. Sure, No problem. By the way....your tax bill just quadrupled and your overseas stash is about to become an IRS playground. Have a nice day!!
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:35:16 PM EDT
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Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? ETA: Looks like I may have misread the post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had over 200 phones, and all were stolen. We figured out who the other 200 belonged to, but the last 200 were locked. All I wanted them to do was determine the serial number and let APPLE contact the owners. They refused to even assist. So, 200 people's phones are in an impound box waiting to be auctioned or destroyed. Why don't all smart phone companies display the owner's driver's license/identification info on the lock screen? ETA: Looks like I may have misread the post. My phone says "If found call (xxx) xxx-xxxx (my wife's cell number) for reward." on the lock screen. Seems like the geniuses at Apple could implement that functionality, too. Oh, wait, they did. I guess the phone owners didn't want their shit back, afterall. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:37:29 PM EDT
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Fappening happened because people set up their phone to store all their shit in the cloud. Simple solution is to just not do that. None of my shit is stored in iCloud. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya...BUT TERRORISM AND SHIT!! The fastest way to trash the constitution is to provide people with a false sense of security. Believing that anything that you put on your iPhone is secure is ridiculous. Have you heard of the fappening? Fappening happened because people set up their phone to store all their shit in the cloud. Simple solution is to just not do that. None of my shit is stored in iCloud. Not entirely. It happened because Apple defaults to iCloud storage, didn't implement the most rudimentary of security policies on the iCloud portal login page AND a bunch of dumb ass celebs fell for some pretty basic social engineering tactics. Plenty of blame to go around. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 4:56:42 PM EDT
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I wonder if China asked Apple to unlock the p\iPhone of a Chinese citizen would Apple put up as big a fight? Or would they roll over for their Chines masters and have the phone unlocked quicker than it takes to get one set up at the iPhone store? I don't see what this has to do with China. You're inserting a hypothetical where there are plenty of real-world examples to currently draw from. 9 so far. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:22:20 PM EDT
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Mark my words. This will become a huge election battle line that will swing independent and under 40 votes. The timing is impeccable. I shit you not that's all I hear in passing conversation of folks. I tell it like it is though, not just on a forum. This will go to the Supreme Court. Right around election time would be my guess. This is a single issue vote to get, and like pot it will drive them to the polls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know there are tons of threads but traveling these last few days it's all I overhear in conversations. With the younger generations saying hell no. Privacy. Older parents are tossing out the "well what if we can stop an an imminent attack by getting data off that phone? What if that planned attack was on us? Wouldn't you want our government to have that Intel and respond?" The under 35 crowd is still resounding hell no. Repubs should key in on this. Older folks think it's just about the one phone and not the implications. Educate people. I did. Changed some minds of folks I didn't even know. Edit Public perception battle lines are being drawn and manipulated. Hell they did this same kinda scare tactic on terrorist using embedded comm in images after 9/11 if you remember. I was so pissed off at the parents trying to preach "don't you trust the government to protect you?" Then the young kids age 12-25 say fuck no. Lines are being drawn. Every GOP presidential candidate got their pussy wet at the thought of Apple of complying and bending over. Chump has said that he'll lead a boycott against Apple, if they don't comply. I wish more people cared about the 4th amendment. I wish the EFF had more lobbying power. Mark my words. This will become a huge election battle line that will swing independent and under 40 votes. The timing is impeccable. I shit you not that's all I hear in passing conversation of folks. I tell it like it is though, not just on a forum. This will go to the Supreme Court. Right around election time would be my guess. This is a single issue vote to get, and like pot it will drive them to the polls. This might make it to the ninth circuit by the time of the election, but probably not. There's no conceivable way it could get to SCOTUS by then. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 9:13:07 PM EDT
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This might make it to the ninth circuit by the time of the election, but probably not. There's no conceivable way it could get to SCOTUS by then. You're most likely correct but I can see a big issue being made about it. It's still being pushed in the news and folks minds...still. |
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Posted: 2/24/2016 10:06:15 PM EDT
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You're most likely correct but I can see a big issue being made about it. It's still being pushed in the news and folks minds...still. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This might make it to the ninth circuit by the time of the election, but probably not. There's no conceivable way it could get to SCOTUS by then. You're most likely correct but I can see a big issue being made about it. It's still being pushed in the news and folks minds...still. It's too complicated. It won't be a big issue. |
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