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Posted: 9/15/2004 12:17:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:22:24 PM EST
EXCELLENT!

I wore a red ArmaLite T-shirt last time I got called. Didn't make it onto a panel unfortunately.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:26:34 PM EST
Hopefully you will get some juicy case with a couple of hot co-jurors that you have to be sequestered with for a month.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:26:38 PM EST
I wish i liked it. It`s worse than dealing with those suspicious folks at the DMV lol. It has always been an ALL day game playing event full of BS for me. They could really unclog the system if they would let common sense lead and start knocking these cases out quick. Oh, and looking around at my fellow jurors has givin me the creeps thinking that my fate could be in these ppl`s hands.
Hope it is a good experience for you though, it has sadly become one of my pet peeves. Not the idea, just the silly circus it has been.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:32:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:38:46 PM EST
Wish it was me. I'd love the chance to participate in one of the processes that make this such a great country. I have never been called, dangit!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:42:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Wish it was me. I'd love the chance to participate in one of the processes that make this such a great country. I have never been called, dangit!



+1 I would love to do it
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:42:21 PM EST
Hmm, i wonder how they respond to political affiliaton...

I bet they prefer the "Uhh... I don't really watch the news... whats this I hear bout an election comin up?" type folks.


- BG
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:45:49 PM EST
Be sure to look up the Fully Informed Jury Association at FIJA.com. Trust me, they will help.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:46:19 PM EST
If necessary remember

JURY NULLIFICATION
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:47:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Wish it was me. I'd love the chance to participate in one of the processes that make this such a great country. I have never been called, dangit!



But you won't. You have common sense, and read and can form an opinion on your own that makes it almost impossible to serve.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:57:36 PM EST
i had it this spring. i wore my hooded sweatshirt with "9mm, one size fits all" all the back of it.
they asked hobbies while they selected us (i said target shooting) but not political affiliation.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 12:59:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By IronSamVane:
I wish i liked it. It`s worse than dealing with those suspicious folks at the DMV lol. It has always been an ALL day game playing event full of BS for me. They could really unclog the system if they would let common sense lead and start knocking these cases out quick. Oh, and looking around at my fellow jurors has givin me the creeps thinking that my fate could be in these ppl`s hands.
Hope it is a good experience for you though, it has sadly become one of my pet peeves. Not the idea, just the silly circus it has been.



my personal feeling is that there should be NO jury selection. random names drawn for cases. those 12 showup do the duty and on to the next case. Seems like they always weed out rational people.

mike




Yes, lawyers (on both sides) have been known to SYSTEMATICALLY weed out the logical thinkers and the edumacated folks. I mean, who's either to sway and blind with demagoguery? A physicist or a welfare collector?
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:02:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By IronSamVane:
I wish i liked it. It`s worse than dealing with those suspicious folks at the DMV lol. It has always been an ALL day game playing event full of BS for me. They could really unclog the system if they would let common sense lead and start knocking these cases out quick. Oh, and looking around at my fellow jurors has givin me the creeps thinking that my fate could be in these ppl`s hands.
Hope it is a good experience for you though, it has sadly become one of my pet peeves. Not the idea, just the silly circus it has been.



my personal feeling is that there should be NO jury selection. random names drawn for cases. those 12 showup do the duty and on to the next case. Seems like they always weed out rational people.

mike



I feel the same. They could get many of cases bagged in an hour. For me it has always taken all day just having the lawyers picking and choosing who they think will better benifit their side. The random idea would be great and then you could just get right to it. I wouldn`t mind it at all if everyone didn`t make it so much more difficult than it has to be. It would be great if they just got to the facts without the shakespearian drama you have to weed through ontop of trying to stay with the facts. Okay i`m turning the soap box over to someone else now.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:05:23 PM EST
I have been excused from jury duty so many times, it's amazing.....

Each and every time I get excused.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:07:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:
I have been excused from jury duty so many times, it's amazing.....

Each and every time I get excused.



There is no excuse for this!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 1:16:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By cyanide:
If necessary remember

JURY NULLIFICATION


IMHO, that’s what happened in the O.J. Simpson case.

We all know how well justice was served by that jury!!
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:14:28 PM EST
I got picked the last time I had to go and ended up being the jury foreman. We went into the court room and they picked the first 6 people they called out. Ended up being a drug paraphernalia case. The dude charged was defending himself and had already missed one court date. He didn't have any pot in the truck but did have "residue" (ashes) in the ash try and that's what they popped him on. It turned into a he said/he did/he said arguing match between him and the state trooper who busted him.

We found him guilty and fined him $100 bucks plus court cost.

I had second thoughts about it for a week afterward.
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:25:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By IronSamVane:
I wish i liked it. It`s worse than dealing with those suspicious folks at the DMV lol. It has always been an ALL day game playing event full of BS for me. They could really unclog the system if they would let common sense lead and start knocking these cases out quick. Oh, and looking around at my fellow jurors has givin me the creeps thinking that my fate could be in these ppl`s hands.
Hope it is a good experience for you though, it has sadly become one of my pet peeves. Not the idea, just the silly circus it has been.



my personal feeling is that there should be NO jury selection. random names drawn for cases. those 12 showup do the duty and on to the next case. Seems like they always weed out rational people.

mike



Sometimes its hard to find 12 rational people in one place
Link Posted: 9/15/2004 2:39:37 PM EST
I sat on a 1st degree murder trial a month ago. I didn't try to get out of it. I seen it as part of my civic responsibility, just as I see voting is.

would have been funny to wear my KILL ALL LAWYERS t-shirt, though.

Link Posted: 9/16/2004 7:03:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer: it also came with a questionair that asked about hobbies and political affiliation

'None' and 'none' because it's none of their business!
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 7:32:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

my personal feeling is that there should be NO jury selection. random names drawn for cases. those 12 showup do the duty and on to the next case. Seems like they always weed out rational people.

mike



+1
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 7:40:55 AM EST
If you want to be on jury duty like I did. Just dress down and look bored/tired. PAs love to have morons on the jury. No independent thought!

I wore jeans, a flannel shirt and work boots. And I got picked to be jury foreman as well by the other jury members once they realised I was the only one of us taking notes on the case! They couldn't remember the peoples names let alone the "facts" of the case.

Needless to say we found the defendant not guilty of simple assault. ( 2 on 1 and he was the aggressor? )
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 9:34:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 9:41:59 AM EST by Bumblebee_Bob]
I got a summons for a trial today.

The trial was canceled.

After a 5 yr lapse I was kinda' looking forward to it.

Gawd you guys are killn' me! Never been called even!!

I get a summons about two - three times a year. I have no idea what makes me so spechul.

I went the past 5 yrs without a summons because I was finally picked and we found the guy guilty of theft.

But I'm back on the list. Two summons' in two months. Both trials were cancelled. And the second summons was received less than a week after the first trial was cancelled. Can't wait for next week to see if it's going to be 3 for 3.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 11:53:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pangea:

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:
I have been excused from jury duty so many times, it's amazing.....

Each and every time I get excused.



There is no excuse for this!



I have never asked to be excused. I just always am. Every time. Five or six times now.....
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:01:18 PM EST
My last jury experience ended in a mistrial when 2/3'rds of the second group of jurors picked (my group) affirmed to the Commonwealth's attorney that they didn't feel that they could convict someone for marijuana possession and distribution because they didn't feel that it was wrong. The first group was excused because nearly 1/4 of the panel knew the defendant.
This was a rather varied group of people from about 25-60 years of age, and multiple races.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:05:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Poodleshooter:
My last jury experience ended in a mistrial when 2/3'rds of the second group of jurors picked (my group) affirmed to the Commonwealth's attorney that they didn't feel that they could convict someone for marijuana possession and distribution because they didn't feel that it was wrong. The first group was excused because nearly 1/4 of the panel knew the defendant.
This was a rather varied group of people from about 25-60 years of age, and multiple races.



Sounds like he sold to everybody in town.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:16:30 PM EST
By law, we as a society want an impartial jury. Yet to hear some attorneys/mediafolk/CNN-talking-head, they appear to equate impartiality with ignorance of the issue. Does a juror have to know nothing about a case to be impartial?
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:30:48 PM EST
I've been called twice, both times didn't have to show up because I was 200+ miles away from 'home' going to school.

I was willing to blow off classes for a week, but they didn't like the idea of paying me mileage to drive back and forth every day.
Link Posted: 9/16/2004 12:33:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2004 12:34:26 PM EST by legalese77]

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
just got a summons. I am thinking this would be a good time to wear my TEAM AR15.com shirt

it also came with a questionair that asked about hobbies and political affiliation

Hmmmmmm I think shooting assault weapons and Constitutional conservative might not go over very well.

mike



depends...
let us know if you get put on a civil or criminal jury

eta: I am not, of course, referring to the character of the jury but the nature of the case
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