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Posted: 7/20/2008 1:40:51 PM EDT
There is a really nice SLR-106FR 5.56 x 45 at the fun show going for $800. I don't want to add more calibers even though 5.45 and 7.62 x 39 are cheaper. My concern is one day that cheap Russian/Eastern Bloc surplus will dry up. Is it an abomination to own a AK in 5.56 x 45?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:41:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 1:42:58 PM EDT by RetroRevolver77]
No and hence my exact reason to compel Arsenal for nearly seven years to produce the stamped 5.56 AKS74-M1A1 renamed 106FR. The rifle is as accurate as an M4 carbine yet won't choke on the cheap stuff.


RR
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:41:49 PM EDT
Not if you buy 20k now
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:42:03 PM EDT
Go for it !
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:43:13 PM EDT
I don't get it. AKs should be cheap to shoot. Mine is in 5.45.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:45:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I don't get it. AKs should be cheap to shoot. Mine is in 5.45.



Mine too. I got a cheap Romanian WASR-@ and I love it. Ammo is cheap as hell too. ALot cheaper than 5.56
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:47:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TGMoore:
There is a really nice SLR-106FR 5.56 x 45 at the fun show going for $800. I don't want to add more calibers even though 5.45 and 7.62 x 39 are cheaper. My concern is one day that cheap Russian/Eastern Bloc surplus will dry up. Is it an abomination to own a AK in 5.56 x 45?



IMHO YES!!!

5.56x45 ammo is too expensive to shoot in an AK.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:14:05 PM EDT
Find an AK-74 in 5.45. The ammo is about $130 / 1K right now (but corrosive). You will pay more for the gun and mags than a standard AK-47, but if you shoot enough, the costs will be off-set by the savings on ammo.

Buy it cheap and stack it deep! There are other companies now producing the ammo, so it's not like you'll be totally SOL if the surplus supply is eventually cut off.

5.56 is not a bad idea either, although mag availability may be an issue (haven't looked for them lately).
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:16:47 PM EDT
I wouldn't have one that's not 7.62. But that's just me.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:18:19 PM EDT
I want an AK in 5.45 something bad. I can't find them for a good price though.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:18:27 PM EDT
Before 5.56mm got expensive, I had a SAR-3 AK in 5.56mm NATO.

I sold it because it was the only AK I ever had that wasn't reliable.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:20:52 PM EDT
No. Not an abomination. Carry on.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:21:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 3:22:48 PM EDT by RAINBOW6]

Originally Posted By TGMoore:
There is a really nice SLR-106FR 5.56 x 45 at the fun show going for $800. I don't want to add more calibers even though 5.45 and 7.62 x 39 are cheaper. My concern is one day that cheap Russian/Eastern Bloc surplus will dry up. Is it an abomination to own a AK in 5.56 x 45?


If its made by Arsenal then you might want to check out the Bulgarian AK section here at arfcom before you plunk that money down.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:24:39 PM EDT
No its a good idea.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:28:59 PM EDT
I have a SAR3 and love it. I already have 2 ARs so it isn't like I'm adding a caliber to the collection.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:33:01 PM EDT
Why?

AKs should be cheap to shoot and making one in 5.56x45 negates that. I would only buy one in 7.62x39 or 5.45x39.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:35:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By weptek911:
No. Not an abomination. Carry on.


+1

It's very nice to have uniformity of calibers.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:38:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:38:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Spent all those years fighting the Commies and now all y'all wanna do is buy commie rifles


A Commie gun in the hands of an American is one less gun in the hands of a Communist.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:41:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bob1984:
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Originally Posted By streetfighter:
Spent all those years fighting the Commies and now all y'all wanna do is buy commie rifles hinking.gif


A Commie gun in the hands of an American is one less gun in the hands of a Communist. hose
And tell me a lovely Russian lady wouldn't go well with a cold winter night!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:44:02 PM EDT
I have a feeling that the industry is going to catch on, prices are going to go up and they are going to say that supply is drying up.

Just look at 223 and 7.62, and apparently all the billions of ak's that are out there that have been mass produced since the beginning of time have all of the sudden dried up.

Maybe I have my super thick tin foil hat on here but I think all this shortage business is a bunch of fu*king bullshit and I don't buy into it, but I'm forced to pay a premium on my firearms and ammo because its the last one anybody in the world will ever see.

well thats my rant for the day
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:47:38 PM EDT

Not if you post pics of it.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 3:51:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By weptek911:
No. Not an abomination. Carry on.


+1

It's very nice boring to have uniformity of calibers.


Fixed.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:29:24 PM EDT
If you want one then get one.....lifes too short to do without what you want, if you can afford it.

I bought a PAR-3...a pump action variation of the SAR-3 in .223 made for the Kali market at a local sporting good store. It will take the ProMag 5.45 mags just fine
and reliability is not an issue. I shoot the cheap brown bear stuff through it. Works just fine and is pleasantly accurate for a gun that was in the $200 range. Just got a
new scope mount cover for it and am gonna get a cheapo mil reticle scope to go on it.

Once I get it dialed in I will probably give it to my oldest when she turns 18 in about a year. Be a good first gun for a teenager.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:32:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I don't get it. AKs should be cheap to shoot. Mine is in 5.45.


And when the surplus 5.45 dries up or is banned from import?


I'm planning on getting an SLR-106. It's the best of both worlds.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:35:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:37:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:38:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fishngrits:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By weptek911:
No. Not an abomination. Carry on.


+1

It's very nice boring to have uniformity of calibers.


Fixed.


You have a point.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:39:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I don't get it. AKs should be cheap to shoot. Mine is in 5.45.


And when the surplus 5.45 dries up or is banned from import?


I'm planning on getting an SLR-106. It's the best of both worlds.

Then that's the way it goes.
Till then...
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:39:50 PM EDT
I hope not, I just bought one today to keep my AR's company!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:40:40 PM EDT
no... it's an obamanation to buy an AK period.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:42:12 PM EDT
Yes, yes it is. There's a metric fuckton of 556 guns out there, and an AK shouldn't be one.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:42:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By TGMoore:
There is a really nice SLR-106FR 5.56 x 45 at the fun show going for $800. I don't want to add more calibers even though 5.45 and 7.62 x 39 are cheaper. My concern is one day that cheap Russian/Eastern Bloc surplus will dry up. Is it an abomination to own a AK in 5.56 x 45?


Abomination?

No.

...but AK's in general don't really like 5.56. Even very well made AK's in 5.56 tend to be really iffy in the reliability department.


+1
What J_W said.
I'd rather have one in 5.45 but its never a bad idea to buy gun
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:43:59 PM EDT
I have an SLR 106 FR and like it just fine. Plus, it digests the steel cased 5.56 well, which I won't run through my AR or PLR 16.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 10:32:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Darrellbear:
I have an SLR 106 FR and like it just fine. Plus, it digests the steel cased 5.56 well, which I won't run through my AR or PLR 16.


Any reason why? I have only seen one AR that wouldn't shoot Wolf .223. Of course, its a 9mm AR...
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