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Posted: 8/30/2015 9:39:06 PM EST
Never seen one before.


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:42:58 PM EST
I bet it blows heads off while people are just sitting there!




Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:43:15 PM EST
Germans had one in the 30's.

50mm

Gen powered or bicycle

Mounted in fortresses.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:49:52 PM EST
Would it not be faster if the 2 guys took turns bringing ammo to it?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:55:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:55:56 PM EST
looked like it was almost shooting straight up
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:57:39 PM EST
Bofors style clip fed. Kinda want.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:59:42 PM EST
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Bofors style clip fed. Kinda want.
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Kinda sounds like a Bofors, too. Want even more, now.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:00:01 PM EST
I think I would want the ammo a little closer especially if I was the poor SOB that had to run and fetch it.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:01:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:02:38 PM EST
As mortars go, it's pretty accurate. Volume of fire is awesome. WANT. If I remember right, it was developed originally for airborne use.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:03:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:04:31 PM EST
I've seen automated mortars but not one magazine fed. Badass.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:09:57 PM EST
My god, a real life Thudd Gun.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:15:56 PM EST
Yea those are awesome. That ammo bearer got the short straw. Now like the ammo laying out 5 feet further would help if the breach blew up or when the counter battery hits.

I would like to see the emplacement drill on one and how fast they can move after shooting. You could dump a bunch of rounds with that bad boy but not getting back on the move means you are dead.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:26:41 PM EST
Pretty cool
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:28:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nickforney:
Yea those are awesome. That ammo bearer got the short straw. Now like the ammo laying out 5 feet further would help if the breach blew up or when the counter battery hits.

I would like to see the emplacement drill on one and how fast they can move after shooting. You could dump a bunch of rounds with that bad boy but not getting back on the move means you are dead.
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Mount two in the back of a 5 ton with fast actuating brace legs. Pull up an ammo 5 ton next to it and drop a boarding ramp across for the ammo bitches. Dump a dozen trays per mortar and then pick up and scoot.

Okay, really want now.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:29:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nickforney:
Yea those are awesome. That ammo bearer got the short straw. Now like the ammo laying out 5 feet further would help if the breach blew up or when the counter battery hits.
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They need to develop a man-portable conveyor belt to go along with it - Something that can get a round from safe storage to the mortar in just a few seconds.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:30:09 PM EST
So... which one is the lowest rank?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:36:36 PM EST
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honestly this is a good question.

On some mortar systems the assistant gunner out ranks the gunner because the gunners job has been over simplified while the AG needs to load the round carefully and quickly. This isn't true with this type of magazine fed system but for track systems with MFCS in the US arsenal it is.

The gunner is clearly using poles and checking the sight. I would love to see the impacts and how it groups. Im also curious how they run the FDC on them and what kind of spread is built into the style of firing.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:42:30 PM EST
I also find it interesting to show the difference in doctrine. They are slinging 4 rounds per pull accepting a large spread in the rounds but getting the idea that the target should be destroyed along with lots of other stuff around it.

With more and more advancements in mortar tech in the US we are going for first round fire for effects and always accuracy over saturation. We have very expensive systems being developed that land multiple rounds on the same target at the same time from the same tube while others figure if they saturate with cheaper stuff it can do as good of a job. I don't know which is the right answer. In a war on terror in coin fights accuracy is important gotta keep the politicians happy. I don't think the russians are too worried about that.
ruag
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:44:46 PM EST
They are extremely useful short to medium range systems that can be mounted on trucks, towed, or fitted into APCs. They are also used in direct fire role for light to medium anti-armor. you often see them deployed there in trenches much like the maxim of wwI. They have a limited range (less than 3K) but are used by the ukrainians to repel infantry/mechanized infantry attacks. I wonder why we dont have a similar system? There is a video floating around from last year where a vasilek team smokes a small convoy of Russian trucks/BMPs and grad launchers. they drop like 48 rounds before the first ones hit.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:44:57 PM EST
I hope that guy is wearing his fitbit
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:50:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:54:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By itchytrigger:
Whoever they're shooting at is pretty f'in close.
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No kidding. I was waitin for the rounds to come back down on them.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:57:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By dbmers:
Never seen one before.


http://youtu.be/X2UZgVbejns
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Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:02:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:
They are extremely useful short to medium range systems that can be mounted on trucks, towed, or fitted into APCs. They are also used in direct fire role for light to medium anti-armor. you often see them deployed there in trenches much like the maxim of wwI. They have a limited range (less than 3K) but are used by the ukrainians to repel infantry/mechanized infantry attacks. I wonder why we dont have a similar system? There is a video floating around from last year where a vasilek team smokes a small convoy of Russian trucks/BMPs and grad launchers. they drop like 48 rounds before the first ones hit.
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I'd like to see that video.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:16:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By THOF:
Would it not be faster if the 2 guys took turns bringing ammo to it?
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That's what I was wondering .
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:21:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:


I'd like to see that video.
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:
Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:
They are extremely useful short to medium range systems that can be mounted on trucks, towed, or fitted into APCs. They are also used in direct fire role for light to medium anti-armor. you often see them deployed there in trenches much like the maxim of wwI. They have a limited range (less than 3K) but are used by the ukrainians to repel infantry/mechanized infantry attacks. I wonder why we dont have a similar system? There is a video floating around from last year where a vasilek team smokes a small convoy of Russian trucks/BMPs and grad launchers. they drop like 48 rounds before the first ones hit.


I'd like to see that video.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:22:59 PM EST
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No kidding. I was waitin for the rounds to come back down on them.
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Originally Posted By itchytrigger:
Whoever they're shooting at is pretty f'in close.


No kidding. I was waitin for the rounds to come back down on them.


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:23:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:


I'd like to see that video.
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:
Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:
They are extremely useful short to medium range systems that can be mounted on trucks, towed, or fitted into APCs. They are also used in direct fire role for light to medium anti-armor. you often see them deployed there in trenches much like the maxim of wwI. They have a limited range (less than 3K) but are used by the ukrainians to repel infantry/mechanized infantry attacks. I wonder why we dont have a similar system? There is a video floating around from last year where a vasilek team smokes a small convoy of Russian trucks/BMPs and grad launchers. they drop like 48 rounds before the first ones hit.


I'd like to see that video.

You're not the only one.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:29:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 11:33:36 PM EST by WilliamGray]
Better quality video, also includes them reloading the magazine.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:37:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 11:38:55 PM EST by Tech-Com]


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Originally Posted By itchytrigger:
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You would think, but it took a long time for the explosions to start happening. I bet they had a stiff tailwind and those rounds got some serious air time.
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 12:09:08 AM EST
Do you think that would be compatible with the available bolt-on mortar guidance systems?
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