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Posted: 1/4/2012 4:56:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 4:57:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 4:58:44 PM EST by Shockergd]
I'm curious how they compare to NK subs.


There's a huge danger to ships from such subs, as proven from the sinking of the chenoan.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 4:59:07 PM EST
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 4:59:30 PM EST
Those guys don't bathe more than once a year even when they are at home. I can't imagine what it smells like in a sub.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:00:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.

Except for the smoke detector.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:02:59 PM EST
Imagine how bad it smells in that thing...
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:03:19 PM EST
Oh shit, they have toggle switch technology.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:04:12 PM EST
where's the goat go?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:04:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
I'm curious how they compare to NK subs.


There's a huge danger to ships from such subs, as proven from the sinking of the chenoan.


Well the Norks probably built them to order for the Iranians.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:05:17 PM EST
I love the hatch that opens inward!
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:06:05 PM EST
More advanced appearing then that rusting Russian Typhoon.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:06:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 5:08:54 PM EST by theBUBBAMANcan]
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
I'm curious how they compare to NK subs.


There's a huge danger to ships from such subs, as proven from the sinking of the chenoan.




Iranian Ghadir subs are similar to NK subs

Ghadir


Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:07:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleARon:
Imagine how bad it smells in that thing...

How do you say "who cut one?" in Farsi?


Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:10:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By esa17:
I love the hatch that opens inward!


This. These subs must have a very shallow run depth. But the design is STILL
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:10:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 5:11:41 PM EST by Frank_The_Tank]
Originally Posted By Averagebear:
Those guys don't bathe more than once a year even when they are at home. I can't imagine what it smells like in a sub.


Cheap cologne & goat anus? Atleast that is what they smell like.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:12:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By Swatter911:

Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.

Except for the smoke detector.


They don't need it to be.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:21:47 PM EST
Spam in a can
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:23:37 PM EST
I don't see any midgets.

Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:25:03 PM EST
I think the arfcom navy could use a few of these.

We could take them to Cuba and liberate women and cigars





Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:25:03 PM EST
It's so much better looking at those pics while listening to this

Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:25:51 PM EST
Just a small turd floating in small bowl.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:32:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.


What marks it as advanced?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:34:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.


What marks it as advanced?


It has a lot of buttons.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:34:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 5:37:09 PM EST by Tahawus]
The sub is just a platform for the 200mph Hoot torpedo, supposedly reverse-engineered from a Russian design. That makes it a very viable threat.

What a Hoot!
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:35:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.


What marks it as advanced?

Smoke Alarm.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:36:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By chicobrownbear:
Oh shit, they have toggle switch technology.


Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:47:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 5:50:50 PM EST by CWO]
I think they ought to give the crew their medals now.



Note the hatch leading in to the fin opens down. This is not the internal bulkhead hatch as those are oblong shaped. Downwards opening seems a strange design as water pressure would tend to force it open rather than closed.



Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:50:37 PM EST
The Iranians have subs for midgets??????

I didn't think you could call them midgets anymore.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:51:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Averagebear:
Those guys don't bathe more than once a year even when they are at home. I can't imagine what it smells like in a sub.

Like the inside of a bonobo cage at the zoo.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 5:55:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Swatter911:

Originally Posted By dport:
Interesting. More advanced than I would have suspected.

Except for the smoke detector.


CO Detector maybe. That would make sense more than a Smoke Detector.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:05:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tahawus:
The sub is just a platform for the 200mph Hoot torpedo, supposedly reverse-engineered from a Russian design. That makes it a very viable threat.

What a Hoot!

It's the same torp that accidentally the whole Kursk.


If it's a knock-off of an already bad design, it could prove to be entertaining when launched... or even stored poorly.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:08:57 PM EST
Why are the panel labels and software user interface in English?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:12:14 PM EST
Midget submarine is not the preferred nomenclature. Little submarine, please.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:12:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By CWO:
Why are the panel labels and software user interface in English?


Because it's easier to read than Chinese?

It's not like there's a huge Farsi speaking, naval software development community.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:19:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By esa17:
I love the hatch that opens inward!


How do you think you open the hatch to escape a submerged submarine?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:21:59 PM EST
You call that advanced?


Every panel looks like a home-built project, albeit home-built projects done by someone who's at least careful to keep controls in straight lines.

Neatly done, but...advanced? YGBSM.


It's a solid step beyond a WWII-era Japanese minisub, but its effectiveness in maritime combat today would be, at BEST, being able to fire off
one torpedo before it's located and destroyed. And that's if the crew uses every imaginable stealth tactic in the book to reduce their noise
signature prior to firing. Like shutting down everything and resting on the bottom of the ocean prior to firing a fish.


CJ
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:27:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By DoubleARon:
Imagine how bad it smells in that thing...


Don't even want to know.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:29:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 6:32:33 PM EST by _DR]



Meh...these guys did it better with less.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:29:22 PM EST
Nice coffin.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:30:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:31:06 PM EST
Iranians and other wealthy Middle-eastern states tend to have very good engineering.

This is because they send them here to go to school.

Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:33:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By toadmeister:
Iranians and other wealthy Middle-eastern states tend to have very good engineering.

This is because they send them here to go to school.



Yeah, but the "Enshallah" attitude makes it all for naught.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:38:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 6:38:48 PM EST by Boom_Stick]
They may get one successful shot off at us but then it's "Oh, there they are. Fire for effect!"
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:42:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 6:46:38 PM EST by LePew]
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
You call that advanced?


Every panel looks like a home-built project, albeit home-built projects done by someone who's at least careful to keep controls in straight lines.

Neatly done, but...advanced? YGBSM.


It's a solid step beyond a WWII-era Japanese minisub, but its effectiveness in maritime combat today would be, at BEST, being able to fire off
one torpedo before it's located and destroyed. And that's if the crew uses every imaginable stealth tactic in the book to reduce their noise
signature prior to firing. Like shutting down everything and resting on the bottom of the ocean prior to firing a fish.


CJ



I suspect that they will do exactly that: "resting on the bottom..." at least in some circumstances.

So it then depends on how good their sensors and torpedoes are....their subs are like CAPTOR mines.

ETA: if the crew cares nought for their lives, detectability is low, and the torps are decent, it could be a significant threat. I don't know if these are the case, but it's food for thought.






Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:46:03 PM EST
Almost a dupe.

Iran builds 3 more Ghadir class submarines for navy
Posted: 11/27/2011 5:00:18 PM PST
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1258074_Iran_builds_3_more_Ghadir_class_submarines_for_navy.html
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:47:13 PM EST
Sing it with me:

We all live in an Iranian midget submarine, an Iranian midget submarine...
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:50:02 PM EST
Is that a Commodore 486 next to that display monitor?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:50:10 PM EST
The Persian Gulf is quite shallow and narrow. There are a few spots that are ~250 feet deep but the majority is under 100 feet.The Strait of Hormuz is only 40 miles across and only about 150 feet deep. Small subs are very hard to find,which is why we had the Swedes as guests for so long to practice with their very advanced AIP sub.

The Norks managed so sink a ROK patrol boat and slip away without being detected. These are essentially the same boats but perhaps even better equipped.Nope,they ain't a Los Angeles but they don't need to be. Iran doesn't need to sink every boat,they just need to be enough of a nuisance to bring the shipping to a standstill. They've got a bunch of these,shitloads of speedboats and plenty of mines. Their plan is assymetrical warfare in the water,they know their conventional forces wouldn't stand a chance. Combined with shore based missiles,they could get lucky a few times.Also remember that they hit that Israeli boat off Lebanon.

Overall,they shouldn't cause the USN to shake in their boots but I'd hate to be on a merchant ship trying to run the gauntlet.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 6:57:10 PM EST
Never underestimate your enemy. These things are probably really big suicide bombers, and might not be too bad at their assigned task.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 7:00:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/4/2012 7:00:27 PM EST by www-glock19-com]
so its called a gaydar?
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 7:14:52 PM EST
Omfg I could not stay in that thing more than an hour, I get clastrophobic in compact cars (which is why I drive an SUV)
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