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Posted: 5/2/2011 10:23:16 AM EDT
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:23:55 AM EDT
duly noted
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:24:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:24:49 AM EDT
Nice observation, bro.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:25:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.

Your hypothesis is supported by piles of research I see.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:31:55 AM EDT
I think you can blame a lot of shitty things on southerners, but rap isn't one of them.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:41:08 AM EDT
Please don't do that. No one wants to claim rap. Rap is the music of fail and aids.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:47:42 AM EDT
If whites are to accept responsibility for rap it should only be done w/ the intent to troll to other people....
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:51:18 AM EDT
Hip Hop music was invented by two German guys from Düsseldorf named Florian Schneider and Ralf Hütter around 1978.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:52:44 AM EDT
Well then, chalk up another point for the South. Doesn't quite rate as high as our southern brethren's other contributions to society, such as truck nuts or The Mullet, but it's a contribution none the less.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:53:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
Please don't do that. No one wants to claim rap. Rap is the music of fail and aids.


Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:53:43 AM EDT
I don't Charlie Daniels was on stage grabbing his crotch and spitting into his mic.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:54:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2011 11:29:53 AM EDT by AvengeR15]

Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.

You don't have to post every single thought that crosses your mind. In fact, it's better if you don't.


Edited for clarity.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:56:07 AM EDT
Wasn't rap popular among inner city youths long before it started getting popular?

Remember the song Rapture by Debbie Harry? It was referencing rap going on in the
inner cities, I think rap has been around a lot longer than most realize.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:56:48 AM EDT
How are they similar except that they use words that rhyme, same as in every other genre of music?
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:57:18 AM EDT
They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two.

I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:57:39 AM EDT
Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro.


Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:58:19 AM EDT
I think they stole it from the Rastafarians.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 10:59:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By InjunJoe:
They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two.

I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other.


I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre.

Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:00:03 AM EDT
This reminds me of the thread were someone tried to claim Bob Fosse invented the Moonwalk
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:00:24 AM EDT
I blame Blonde
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:00:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Originally Posted By InjunJoe:
They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two.

I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other.


I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre.

Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same.


The origin of all music is the same, how far back do you want to go?
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:02:02 AM EDT
Why is it, hip hop artists, or rap artists, tend to refer to themselves in the third person, repeatedly, in many of their tracks?


Do this in your head: Hum Master of Puppets or Battery, and then say, "METALLICA nah nah nah nah METALLICA." Doesn't that sound ridiculous? How about some country, "Here she comes, a walking talking true love, saying I've been looking for you, love; SUPRISE GEORGE STRAIT, out of a blue clear sky."

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:03:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Hawkram:
Wasn't rap popular among inner city youths long before it started getting popular?

Remember the song Rapture by Debbie Harry? It was referencing rap going on in the
inner cities, I think rap has been around a lot longer than most realize.


Not only that "rappers delight" by the Sugar Hill Gang was a big hit years before "rapture"

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:03:24 AM EDT
No thanks, you can have credit for it
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:03:31 AM EDT
And I think it's funny that rock music is attributed to rebellious whites, when in fact the first rock music was black gospel music. I was listening to the Bone Conduction Music show when Thayrone X played what he claimed was THE first recorded instance of rock music, and it was from the early 20th century, long before the "golden age" of rock in the 1950s. I looked it up, and sure enough, that's where rock came from. I just wish I could remember the name of the singer, her voice was beautiful.

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:04:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Originally Posted By InjunJoe:
They both have jazz and soul origins, and there was considerable cross-over between the two.

I'd say they have common ancestors, not necessarily one preceding the other.


I totally agree. But I think its improper for one group to claim total credit when others have obviously contributed to the genre.

Obviously the urban influence has evolved it but the origins are the same.


You can trace all noise patterns made by humans ( I refuse to label rap as music) back to the cavemen shouting "ug ug" while beating on a log with another stick.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:05:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:05:22 AM EDT
I thought Blondie invented rap.

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:07:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By the_naked_prophet:
And I think it's funny that rock music is attributed to rebellious whites, when in fact the first rock music was black gospel music. I was listening to the Bone Conduction Music show when Thayrone X played what he claimed was THE first recorded instance of rock music, and it was from the early 20th century, long before the "golden age" of rock in the 1950s. I looked it up, and sure enough, that's where rock came from. I just wish I could remember the name of the singer, her voice was beautiful.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4P8YPombbk

Yeah, I've heard that rock came from soul/jazz/blues.....I'm just not seeing it here.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:08:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Taboot:
I thought Blondie invented rap.



not quite
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:08:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
You don't have to post every single thought that crosses your mind. In fact, it's better if you don't.


Was that directed at the OP?
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:09:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:13:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2011 11:14:24 AM EDT by mean_sartin]
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.


So when does Charlie Daniels rap about Johnny and the Devil ejaculating all over the random women they can find?
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:18:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro.


Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly.


Rofl

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Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:19:30 AM EDT
Charlie Daniels frowns on your shenanigans.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 11:45:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mean_sartin:
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.


So when does Charlie Daniels rap about Johnny and the Devil ejaculating all over the random women they can find?

That kind of rap didn't come around till a good number of years after rap became commonly known and popular.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:00:10 PM EDT
I don't know who its attributed to but I like rap music. I also listen to other
genres, just depends on mood.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:01:15 PM EDT
Cracker, please.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:05:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Blacks.

If you listen to songs from the 70s like the Convoy song and Devil Went Down to Georgia, those guys were basically rapping with musical interludes.

If you have to attribute it to anyone its white Southerners.


Cab Calloway is rolling over in his grave.

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:06:13 PM EDT
Who cares?

Jesus, just post another OBL IS DEAD thread and go along with the crowd.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:11:18 PM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3ErDN50Qk

Rap?

(I never could embed )
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:12:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2011 8:00:25 AM EDT by KN]


White people rapping.

1962 The Music Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg





Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:12:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Who cares?

Jesus, just post another OBL IS DEAD thread and go along with the crowd.


Wait, what?
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:14:05 PM EDT
Now you want to take credit for rap music.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:15:33 PM EDT
musical lyrics have been rhyming since long before the seventies dude. thats not what makes rap music what it is.
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:17:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:24:07 PM EDT
Pink Floyd invented thrash metal:

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:24:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By akethan:
I think they stole it from the Pastafarians.

FIFY

Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:25:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/2/2011 12:30:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Yo yo yo, the mutha fuckin debil, yo, be goin' down to mutha fuckin' Georga. He be fuckin' wit some hoes, and shi, bro.


Yep. I can hear the resemblance, clearly.


. Yo, bra...you just went instant rap classic billboard top 20, FTMFW!
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