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Posted: 8/14/2007 4:56:03 PM EDT
All those greenbacks headed to the Health Care . . .
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:57:22 PM EDT
Actually, they want her socialized medicine. Then they can stop paying for health insurance for their employees.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:59:48 PM EDT
What kind of scheme will the Welfare-Industrial Complex come up with to get her into office?

The Federal Government already spends more on health care than it does on the military. (It's not even close.)
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:00:16 PM EDT
Let's just say that she shouldn't visit Dallas in the fall.



In before the Oliver Stone critics.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:01:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:10:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
Oddly, I think she would expand the war so as not to appear weak. Another attack on her watch would really piss her off. She'd take it personal.


I have to admit that she is the most hawkish of the Dem bunch.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:11:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rugerp345:
Let's just say that she shouldn't visit Dallas in the fall.

www.stevecioffi.com/ZAPRUDER%20BABIES_1.jpg

In before the Oliver Stone critics.


Bill Clinton runs the shadow government, so it won't happen.



...



Wait a minute...


Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:13:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 5:15:26 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By rugerp345:

In before the Oliver Stone critics.


You mean sane people.

Hillary Clinton hates the military there is no telling what she will do, but it will not be good.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:13:58 PM EDT
I agree that the health care/drug companies and insurance companies are probably firmly against Hillary and she'll have a hard time keeping pace with a decent Republican Candidate like Fred Thompson in terms of fund raising in the general election.

The Military contractors have to be conservative though and can't go to heavy for one party, but trust me they know that Hillary will be slashing defense programs like crazy.

HELL, the Dems have already cut big time the Future Combat Systems program, the F-35, Landwarrior, UCAVs, UGV, DARPA, and a host of other programs have been downsized or killed. Watch cspan sometime folks about the only thing the Dems seem to favor is MRAP and more body armor.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:29:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SilentType:
I agree that the health care/drug companies and insurance companies are probably firmly against Hillary and she'll have a hard time keeping pace with a decent Republican Candidate like Fred Thompson in terms of fund raising in the general election.

The Military contractors have to be conservative though and can't go to heavy for one party, but trust me they know that Hillary will be slashing defense programs like crazy.

HELL, the Dems have already cut big time the Future Combat Systems program, the F-35, Landwarrior, UCAVs, UGV, DARPA, and a host of other programs have been downsized or killed. Watch cspan sometime folks about the only thing the Dems seem to favor is MRAP and more body armor.


OK, you were able to say what I wanted to say but much more eloquently.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:33:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Oddly, I think she would expand the war so as not to appear weak. Another attack on her watch would really piss her off. She'd take it personal.


I have to admit that she is the most hawkish of the Dem bunch.


You actually BELIEVE her?

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:56:40 PM EDT
If Hillary becomes President we'll become socialist-lite in the first 2yrs of her term & the military will be reduced greatly
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:01:07 PM EDT
How will they stop her? I don't know, but I'd be willing to help.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:28:08 PM EDT
Probably not much. Clinton 44 would allow the military to atrophy for 4 or 8 years resulting in HUGE attacks on the USA and/or our interests, necessitating another huge buildup.


Her lick-spittle friend Jack Murtha is all about huge appropriations for ships the .mil does not want or need in order to keep his lobbyist sons knee deep in cash.

SOS
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:55:14 PM EDT
Why would they want to? If she gets elected, she will get us into a Major war.

Plus, she will allow them to sell technology to China, and other enemy countries.

Wait and see.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:00:21 PM EDT


And you thought that both wings werent from the same bird?? RofLmAo
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:05:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Actually, they want her socialized medicine. Then they can stop paying for health insurance for their employees.


Having them stop paying for health insurance directly might actually be good for the country. If people had to buy coverage out of their pockets it would bring more supply/demand dynamic into things and drive prices down. They could roll it out as of some year start ... give everyone a pay bump equal to what their health care benefit cost the company during the last year and say go shopping.

Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:49:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dog-meat:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Actually, they want her socialized medicine. Then they can stop paying for health insurance for their employees.


Having them stop paying for health insurance directly might actually be good for the country. If people had to buy coverage out of their pockets it would bring more supply/demand dynamic into things and drive prices down. They could roll it out as of some year start ... give everyone a pay bump equal to what their health care benefit cost the company during the last year and say go shopping.




Not a chance in hell.

Do you remotely understand there will be no pay bump that no one is going to be allowed to buy coverage out of their pockets, Hillary wants a single payer system... there will be BIG tax increases? Most people will actually see a decrease in coverage on top of it as single payer means dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:54:26 AM EDT
I think she will do a pretty good job of stopping herself.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:04:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2007 9:06:58 AM EDT by doggbert556]
Same way they stopped Kennedy.

Eta late again



kidding
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:22:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By bloodmoon:
Does C-4 stand for Cyanide account 4. I have always wondered if C-4 is some kind of secret Arfcom message spread from the dark portals of this site. Called many names on this site for many years spreading and fading away as the evil gets too powerful. A demon who will never die only spreading from account to account.

On my death bed I will log on to this site and see an account thats named something like coyote-67, casper-99 or the name of the beast Chimera-666

I will know the evil is real while I gasp my last breath.


Nope. Just this stuff:

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Eod2.jpg/300px-Eod2.jpg

C-4


That's a great picture, gore-tex jacket sleeves (known to store static charges, not to mention the velcro closures) and a detonator in each hand. We aren't even allowed to fuel aircraft wearing gore-tex.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 3:12:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By dog-meat:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Actually, they want her socialized medicine. Then they can stop paying for health insurance for their employees.


Having them stop paying for health insurance directly might actually be good for the country. If people had to buy coverage out of their pockets it would bring more supply/demand dynamic into things and drive prices down. They could roll it out as of some year start ... give everyone a pay bump equal to what their health care benefit cost the company during the last year and say go shopping.




Not a chance in hell.

Do you remotely understand there will be no pay bump that no one is going to be allowed to buy coverage out of their pockets, Hillary wants a single payer system... there will be BIG tax increases? Most people will actually see a decrease in coverage on top of it as single payer means dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.


I was saying what would help, not what would happen under the commie system. Replying to his 2nd sentence and ignoring the 1st.

Link Posted: 8/16/2007 2:33:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Oddly, I think she would expand the war so as not to appear weak. Another attack on her watch would really piss her off. She'd take it personal.


I have to admit that she is the most hawkish of the Dem bunch.


And "Rudy" is the toughest on illegal aliens of the Republican bunch.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 3:15:58 AM EDT
They don't need to. Democrats are much better at waging war than Republicans. Republicans don't "win" anything. They lose in politics and they lose in war. They are not really effective at much except chronyism and making themselves richer. Least the democrats are good in all four areas.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 4:50:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Whiskey_Rebellion:
They don't need to. Democrats are much better at waging war than Republicans. Republicans don't "win" anything. They lose in politics and they lose in war. They are not really effective at much except chronyism and making themselves richer. Least the democrats are good in all four areas.


I think perhaps you took a wrong turn on the information supehighway and ended up somewhere other than were you intended. Maybe you were looking for this place instead? Tell me you will break out the old stand bys "Neocon" and "Bushies" in your next pathetic ill-contrived babble?
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 4:52:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Whiskey_Rebellion:
They don't need to. Democrats are much better at waging war than Republicans. Republicans don't "win" anything. They lose in politics and they lose in war. They are not really effective at much except chronyism and making themselves richer. Least the democrats are good in all four areas.


The Dems sure showed those North Vietnamese, didn't they!
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