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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:31:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2014 9:38:12 PM EDT by Spectre210]
Have posts by known law enforcement officers on this site affected your overall opinion of law enforcement officers for the positive or negative? Why?

ETA: Not so much what do you think of them - I'm interested in whether the posts by LEO on this site have made you think better or worse of them as a whole.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:33:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2014 9:33:28 PM EDT by Glock63]
Some of both. Not going into details
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:34:46 PM EDT
Most LEOs are great guys. The few jackasses out there can do a lot to ruin the reputation of thousands of hard working and decent men and women.

Having been an EMT, tho, I do find it annoying how most cops' knee-jerk response is to defend the suspect actions of police--even if it's patently obvious they're in the wrong.

...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:35:03 PM EDT
I now realize that they are mostly normal dudes that enjoy looking at cocks as much as other dudes. All okay in my book.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:35:43 PM EDT
Posts about police have made me be less trusting of LEO as a group.

Post by LEO have made me understand that like every other profession, there are (mostly) good people and a few bad.

So, its mostly a wash.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:37:08 PM EDT
No

Just reinforced what I already knew. There are good cops, bad cops and people who have no business being a cop. It seems that the bad cops and people who have no business being a cop are becoming more prevalent these days. I avoid cops like I would avoid someone who has the black plague, never know which of the above you will run into.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:38:32 PM EDT
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Everyone loves firemen. They only help. They don't bust people's balls over bullshit.

Well, I do know a few women who had the hots for firemen, and eventually hooked up with one; they don't have the hots for firemen anymore. I guess the shiny wears off if you actually know one.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:41:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FJ60:
Most LEOs are great guys. The few jackasses out there can do a lot to ruin the reputation of thousands of hard working and decent men and women.

Having been an EMT, tho, I do find it annoying how most cops' knee-jerk response is to defend the suspect actions of police--even if it's patently obvious they're in the wrong.

...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?
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They try, but the --------------- is too powerful.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:41:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FJ60:
Most LEOs are great guys. The few jackasses out there can do a lot to ruin the reputation of thousands of hard working and decent men and women.

Having been an EMT, tho, I do find it annoying how most cops' knee-jerk response is to defend the suspect actions of police--even if it's patently obvious they're in the wrong.

...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?
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Been there, done that - thirty some odd years ago; EMT-II in a very busy metro district. I'm interested in how posts by LEO on this site have affected your opinion.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:42:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Renegade13B:


Everyone loves firemen. They only help. They don't bust people's balls over bullshit.

Well, I do know a few women who had the hots for firemen, and eventually hooked up with one; they don't have the hots for firemen anymore. I guess the shiny wears off if you actually know one.
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Originally Posted By Renegade13B:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?


Everyone loves firemen. They only help. They don't bust people's balls over bullshit.

Well, I do know a few women who had the hots for firemen, and eventually hooked up with one; they don't have the hots for firemen anymore. I guess the shiny wears off if you actually know one.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH *Can't breathe* HAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:46:16 PM EDT
If I were to get pulled over for speeding or traffic issues and the cop mentioned my BFL knowing what it was and its relation to this site, I would immediately feel more at ease.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:50:26 PM EDT
Per a poll in a recent 13er thread 45% of GD would rather sleep with a loving male tranny than a bitchy female pornstar.

I don't take anything you sick fucks say seriously
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:52:30 PM EDT
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Per a poll in a recent 13er thread 45% of GD would rather sleep with a loving male tranny than a bitchy female pornstar.

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The fuck?
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:52:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Per a poll in a recent 13er thread 45% of GD would rather sleep with a loving male tranny than a bitchy female pornstar.

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Given the demographics here, maybe you should.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:55:32 PM EDT
There are some great ones on this site but they are overshadowed by the resident JBT's. It is really a shame. The great ones usually will give an input of maybe 1 or 2 posts in a LEO thread. where as the JBT ones just keep at it and show how they have no regard for the constitution.
To the ones who hold to their oath and to values I have a deep respect for, and enjoy their insight. For the JBT thugs well they are petty little boys who like the badge because they think it validates their inadequacies.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:57:35 PM EDT
It's really hard to say. Most of the guys who are LEO are just guys.

But I think even in normal, good people the institutionalization runs very deep in LEO's so even the good ones have a tendency to be very protective of douchebag behavior when they probably shouldn't.

Does that make them douchebags?

No, it's just part of the indoc and lifestyle that cops live. They have to protect each other, even in the face of retardedness because they may need that retarded cop to protect them one day.

But still, the level of us vs. them attitude that is apparent in most cops makes me have less of an opinion of them.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:59:06 PM EDT
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Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 9:59:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:

The fuck?
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Originally Posted By Truth2882:
Originally Posted By Caboose314:
Per a poll in a recent 13er thread 45% of GD would rather sleep with a loving male tranny than a bitchy female pornstar.

I don't take anything you sick fucks say seriously

The fuck?


Ok, I stretched "marry" into "sleep with", but here's the thread:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1616902_Whom_would_you_rather_marry_.html
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:00:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By arcaneadam:
It's really hard to say. Most of the guys who are LEO are just guys.

But I think even in normal, good people the institutionalization runs very deep in LEO's so even the good ones have a tendency to be very protective of douchebag behavior when they probably shouldn't.

Does that make them douchebags?

No, it's just part of the indoc and lifestyle that cops live. They have to protect each other, even in the face of retardedness because they may need that retarded cop to protect them one day.

But still, the level of us vs. them attitude that is apparent in most cops makes me have less of an opinion of them.
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Do you not see the irony of the whole us vs. them narrative repeated here so often in light of threads like this?
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:01:10 PM EDT
My father was a cop for 33yrs. And to this day he is my hero! Now for what I have seen in my neck of the woods I have given up. From what I have seen in the last 10 years
I no longer have any respect for them. I wont help them in any way or any situation. This is what the us vs them gets you. By the way to this day I have never even had a speeding ticket.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:01:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhatForrest:

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.
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Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.


I bet they saved the hell out of the basement though.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:


Do you not see the irony of the whole us vs. them narrative repeated here so often in light of threads like this?
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By arcaneadam:
It's really hard to say. Most of the guys who are LEO are just guys.

But I think even in normal, good people the institutionalization runs very deep in LEO's so even the good ones have a tendency to be very protective of douchebag behavior when they probably shouldn't.

Does that make them douchebags?

No, it's just part of the indoc and lifestyle that cops live. They have to protect each other, even in the face of retardedness because they may need that retarded cop to protect them one day.

But still, the level of us vs. them attitude that is apparent in most cops makes me have less of an opinion of them.


Do you not see the irony of the whole us vs. them narrative repeated here so often in light of threads like this?

It's a question. Can you suggest a more neutral way of asking it?
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:04:59 PM EDT
90% posts by LEOs reinforce my faith in humanity, then 10% of posts, some by the same posters, wipe it out. Speaking of working as an EMT I am less anti cop since I stopped working withem daily, if that tells you anything.




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Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:07:19 PM EDT
My own posts have decreased my opinion of law enforcement.

Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:07:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.


You know the difference between firemen and police?

Firemen save lives and police destroy them.

*high hat*

sorry, I had to
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:08:14 PM EDT
Posts by those that I know are officers? 100% affirmation of good guy status.

The worst postings I've seen from a known officer (retired) were still 100% OK. They just weren't tinged by badge bunny shine or hero worship, and by an utter and complete omission of anything that could be considered PC.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:08:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QgctZDpHSQ
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:08:46 PM EDT
They haven't changed my opinion one bit.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:08:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By qqqq33:
My father was a cop for 33yrs. And to this day he is my hero! Now for what I have seen in my neck of the woods I have given up. From what I have seen in the last 10 years
I no longer have any respect for them. I wont help them in any way or any situation. This is what the us vs them gets you. By the way to this day I have never even had a speeding ticket.
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This is what usually brings me to LEO threads rather than the actual incident being discussed. I am sorry and you're entitled to your opinion, but that is completely irrational. There are over 800000 LEOs in this country

who represent all facets of demographics, political stripe, religion, class, and every other factor one could consider. You have no respect for any of them nor would you help any of them based on what you have seen in

the last 10 years, yet your father was a cop and you yourself have implied no bad experiences. Do you realize how odd this sounds. Can you imagine applying this logic or lack of to every person and the profession he

represents?

It is the gross generalizations here about LE that often do more to perpetuate the very Us vs. Them narrative so maligned by those making it. I find it incredibly perplexing.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:10:36 PM EDT
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No,my real life interactions with them have negatively changed my overall opinion of LEO.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:13:03 PM EDT
I just pick up cans. I'll be moving along now.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:18:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spectre210:
Have posts by known law enforcement officers on this site affected your overall opinion of law enforcement officers for the positive or negative? Why?

ETA: Not so much what do you think of them - I'm interested in whether the posts by LEO on this site have made you think better or worse of them as a whole.
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Worse.

Bunch of JBTs hose guys are.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:20:20 PM EDT
There are good cops, bad cops and people who have no business being a cop.http://fashionold.com/4ce12.jpg
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:22:20 PM EDT
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When I was a kid my Dad told me "Son, avoid the police", and Dad was a hard working, law abiding, tax paying man.

While I admire some of the LEOs on this site, nothing I've read here has made me think that Dad was wrong.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:22:48 PM EDT
Over my years here at ARFCOM I certainly have lost faith in GD and how it interacts with LE. These threads always end in locks and possible bans.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:23:31 PM EDT
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I bet they saved the hell out of the basement though.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.


I bet they saved the hell out of the basement though.


Not even that, of course there was no basement to begin with though.
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When interacting with them IRL there are only bad cops. I treat them accordingly and avoid them and STFU if I can't.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:31:47 PM EDT
There are several on my ignore list, some banned. So I would say it hasn't improved my overall opinion.

I'm not a Leo fan anyway though, less now due to recent experiences than formerly. I won't speak to Ncis for anything, even if they're the only le in the country., because I've come to believe every last fucker in the organization is a criminal.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:36:34 PM EDT
No change.

Grew up in a LEO family, already knew the deal.

Some are great people, some are utter shitbags.
Seems like the power tripping, roid headed shitbags are rapidly becoming the majority though. (Not here as much as overall).
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 10:41:25 PM EDT
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Poll fail. No option for no change due to the posts here. I don't take this stuff as seriously as a lot of others here do.

My personal experiences have shaped my opinion on law enforcement. Some good and some bad. I can't say that I trust any of them in particular. Mostly because I don't know any cops personally.

That being said, I am sure most here are good dudes and some are not. There have been some posts here making light of unfortunate situations that I think were in poor taste, but this is GD. There's only one that I really didn't like, but he's banned now iirc.
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Originally Posted By RichHead:
Poll fail. No option for no change due to the posts here. I don't take this stuff as seriously as a lot of others here do.

My personal experiences have shaped my opinion on law enforcement. Some good and some bad. I can't say that I trust any of them in particular. Mostly because I don't know any cops personally.

That being said, I am sure most here are good dudes and some are not. There have been some posts here making light of unfortunate situations that I think were in poor taste, but this is GD. There's only one that I really didn't like, but he's banned now iirc.
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No change doesn't affect the poll. I am specifically interested in whether or not posts by LEO on this site have influenced your opinion of them as a whole.

Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:07:16 PM EDT
No change. I already new if I needed NYPD's "help" for anything I'm going to die.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:09:36 PM EDT
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No change doesn't affect the poll. I am specifically interested in whether or not posts by LEO on this site have influenced your opinion of them as a whole.

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Originally Posted By Spectre210:
Originally Posted By RichHead:
Poll fail. No option for no change due to the posts here. I don't take this stuff as seriously as a lot of others here do.

My personal experiences have shaped my opinion on law enforcement. Some good and some bad. I can't say that I trust any of them in particular. Mostly because I don't know any cops personally.

That being said, I am sure most here are good dudes and some are not. There have been some posts here making light of unfortunate situations that I think were in poor taste, but this is GD. There's only one that I really didn't like, but he's banned now iirc.

No change doesn't affect the poll. I am specifically interested in whether or not posts by LEO on this site have influenced your opinion of them as a whole.



Then you are missing "no change" in your poll....


Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:11:31 PM EDT
I know a few outed themselves as JBT's in my bundy ranch thread.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:15:59 PM EDT
I would answer truthfully but I fear for my dog's life.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:31:04 PM EDT
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Then you are missing "no change" in your poll....
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Originally Posted By Spectre210:
Originally Posted By RichHead:
Poll fail. No option for no change due to the posts here. I don't take this stuff as seriously as a lot of others here do.

My personal experiences have shaped my opinion on law enforcement. Some good and some bad. I can't say that I trust any of them in particular. Mostly because I don't know any cops personally.

That being said, I am sure most here are good dudes and some are not. There have been some posts here making light of unfortunate situations that I think were in poor taste, but this is GD. There's only one that I really didn't like, but he's banned now iirc.

No change doesn't affect the poll. I am specifically interested in whether or not posts by LEO on this site have influenced your opinion of them as a whole.



Then you are missing "no change" in your poll....

If there is "no change," is that has, or has not? If it is neither, then there is no effect.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:51:17 PM EDT
Didn't vote cause no middle ground option. Most are just hard working folks. Some, (like any other profession) are douchenozzles.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 11:54:10 PM EDT
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The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By PhatForrest:
Originally Posted By FJ60:
...btw, have you ever heard anyone badmouthing firemen?

Why did God make firemen? So cops can have heroes too.


The last time I saw firemen at work they were running around doing everything but putting out the fire.


Ironically, there is a doughnut shop 5 minutes from my house. If I really needed to find a cop, I would start there...
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 12:17:40 AM EDT
Meh.

Pretty normal distribution of humanity.
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