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Posted: 11/12/2012 2:14:58 PM EDT

Shit just got real Nov 6th.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/hostess-brands-permanently-closing-3-bakeries-following-employee-strike/2012/11/12/90058faa-2d10-11e2-b631-2aad9d9c73ac_story.html

Hostess Brands Inc. is permanently closing three bakeries following a nationwide strike by its bakers union.

The maker of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread said Monday that the strike has prevented it from producing and delivering products, and it is closing bakeries in Seattle, St. Louis and Cincinnati. The facilities employ 627 workers.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:16:34 PM EDT

[#1]

So when does the DoJ file suit or the FBI dig up some dirt in the CEO?

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Posted: 11/12/2012 2:16:44 PM EDT

[#2]

You are aware Hostess is currently in Chapter 11 bankruptcy, right?

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:18:00 PM EDT

[#3]

Good for them. Now they will be boycotted into submission because the left believes in boycotts (because they are effective) whereas we on the right are above such silliness.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:18:43 PM EDT

[#4]

Good. You can't let them win every time they go on strike.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:19:18 PM EDT

[#5]

I almost feel sad for how pathetically retarded union members are. Almost...

Sheep voting for slaughter.

Well, probably most of them are okay with this cause now they can sit on the couch for 99 weeks and collect Unemployment.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:19:57 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Good for them. Now they will be boycotted into submission because the left believes in boycotts (because they are effective) whereas we on the right are above such silliness.

I don't think there is anything to boycott bud.

The CEO is taking his toys and going home. There is a pretty big thread about this here already.

ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1369361_Hostess_CEO_will_shut_down_the_company_and_sell_Twinkie_name_if_union_votes_against_them.html
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Posted: 11/12/2012 2:20:03 PM EDT

[#7]

I am buying Twinkies tomorrow

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Posted: 11/12/2012 2:22:15 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
I am buying Twinkies tomorrow

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Me too, adding some to my preps. They have a shelf life of like 25 years I hear.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:22:37 PM EDT

[#9]

Hostess has been circling the drain for a while. Those plants would have closed no matter what.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:23:38 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Hostess has been circling the drain for a while. Those plants would have closed no matter what.

What union do you belong to?

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:23:56 PM EDT

[#11]

Rule #32
Enjoy the little things.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:28:13 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I am buying Twinkies tomorrow

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panic buy time now!

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:28:54 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Shit just got real Nov 6th.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/hostess-brands-permanently-closing-3-bakeries-following-employee-strike/2012/11/12/90058faa-2d10-11e2-b631-2aad9d9c73ac_story.html

Hostess Brands Inc. is permanently closing three bakeries following a nationwide strike by its bakers union.

The maker of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread said Monday that the strike has prevented it from producing and delivering products, and it is closing bakeries in Seattle, St. Louis and Cincinnati. The facilities employ 627 workers.

And 15 years from now, when they can only find work cleaning toilets for $8/hr, those same union workers will fist pump and revel how they "stuck it to the man".

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:31:05 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Good for them. Now they will be boycotted into submission because the left believes in boycotts (because they are effective) whereas we on the right are above such silliness.

I'm going to go buy a couple loaves of bread and a box of ding-dongs to show my support of this decision.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:38:55 PM EDT

[#15]

Bakery workers going on strike during the worst recession ever? Ho Ho, makes me laugh. What a bunch a Ding Dongs.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:39:31 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Rule #32
Enjoy the little things.

I think someone is going to be angry that there aren't anymore twinkies!

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:40:33 PM EDT

[#17]

Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

Good luck finding a job and telling them why you're looking for work. "Uhhh we didn't want to work because we wanted more money so they closed the plant."

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:42:25 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am buying Twinkies tomorrow

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Me too, adding some to my preps. They have a shelf life of like 25 years I hear.

I'm in for a case.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:42:55 PM EDT

[#19]

Peak Twinkies!

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:43:42 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

Good luck finding a job and telling them why you're looking for work. "Uhhh we didn't want to work because we wanted more money so they closed the plant."

Problem is no one else makes Twinkies. Assume you're a Twinkie addict, where do you go? You'd lose your discount on Twinkies. I could easily see someone being unable to move on from the allure of Twinkies and thus stand their ground.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:43:44 PM EDT

[#21]

"We deeply regret this decision, but we have repeatedly explained that
we will close facilities that are no longer able to produce and deliver
products because of a work stoppage — and that we will close the entire
company if widespread strikes cripple our business,” Hostess Brands CEO
Gregory F. Rayburn said.
Give em hell Mr. Rayburn.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:43:51 PM EDT

[#22]

Hostess never had a Snoballs chance in hell.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:44:24 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
I am buying Twinkies tomorrow

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Bingo, freeze them, and once a year pull out the package, remember how good they were, put them back, and for the next 364 days hate everyone associated with that company's failure.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:44:38 PM EDT

[#24]

dont worry... it will be "CEO makes millions and closes plant on poor, poor slave-labor employess toil on the line to make ends meet"

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:45:07 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Good for them. Now they will be boycotted into submission because the left believes in boycotts (because they are effective) whereas we on the right are above such silliness.

I'm going to go buy a couple loaves of bread and a box of ding-dongs to show my support of this decision.

I actually might do so also, and that's the last shit I want to eat.

I'll find some fat kids to give it to.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:47:19 PM EDT

[#26]

Shelf life of a twinkie is 25 DAYS, not years

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:48:28 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

They're going to figure it out, with a quickness. You can't really blame them, though.. yeah, they pushed the game too far, but for the past 50 years or so, for the most part, the game has worked out in the unions' favor.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:49:57 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

They're going to figure it out, with a quickness. You can't really blame them, though.. yeah, they pushed the game too far, but for the past 50 years or so, for the most part, the game has worked out in the unions' favor.

Wrong, it has worked out for the union LEADERSHIP.

Im pretty sure the union people have gotten the shaft most of the time. And deservedly so. Morons.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:51:26 PM EDT

[#29]

Fucking Teamsters would eat their own children if it meant making a buck.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:52:07 PM EDT

[#30]

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:52:38 PM EDT

[#31]

Edit: Any word if they'll relocate these bakeries to Right-to-Work states?

VA could use the jobs.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:52:45 PM EDT

[#32]

Does Bimbo use Union labor? I bet the plants reopen under their ownership.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:53:55 PM EDT

[#33]

Fucking Peak Twinkies

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:55:06 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

They're going to figure it out, with a quickness. You can't really blame them, though.. yeah, they pushed the game too far, but for the past 50 years or so, for the most part, the game has worked out in the unions' favor.

Wrong, it has worked out for the union LEADERSHIP.

Im pretty sure the union people have gotten the shaft most of the time. And deservedly so. Morons.

I would contest that, given their wages, benefits, and declining level of effort required to get them.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:56:24 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Hostess has been circling the drain for a while. Those plants would have closed no matter what.

So what did the union and the employees do to preserve their jobs.......a BIG FAT NOTHING.

Did they offer to take a pay cut?
Did they offer to take a week's vacation instead of 2-3 weeks?
Did the union offer to suspend the mandatory dues?
Did union officials offer to pitch in on the loading dock?
Did employees offer to work thru their mandatory breaks?
Did the employees offer to accept a suspension of the mandatory matching in the union-managed 401K ?

Nope. Instead, they quit work to stand outside and protest about their jobs........well, now they won't have to.

Good plan Morons. Why don't you go and see if that shitty union has any employment application forms. I'm sure they're gonna take real good care of you now.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:58:47 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Does Bimbo use Union labor? I bet the plants reopen under their ownership.

Yes. I have a friend who wraps loafs of bread for $20 a hour. The company she works for was originally another company before being bought by Bimbo.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:58:50 PM EDT

[#37]

So what will we eat during the zombie uprising?

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:59:05 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Somebody tell these union guys that striking isn't the way you get the wages and benefits you want. In the real world, you either prove to your employer you're a valuable asset through the quality of your work and negotiate your wage/benefits or you (attempt to) find somebody that will pay you based on what you think your skills are worth. Holding a company hostage is downright ludicrous. I'd close the whole company down to spite these bastards if there was some absurd state law to keep me from firing all of them.

They're going to figure it out, with a quickness. You can't really blame them, though.. yeah, they pushed the game too far, but for the past 50 years or so, for the most part, the game has worked out in the unions' favor.

Wrong, it has worked out for the union LEADERSHIP.

Im pretty sure the union people have gotten the shaft most of the time. And deservedly so. Morons.

I would contest that, given their wages, benefits, and declining level of effort required to get them.

Thats only until the company shuts the doors.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:59:27 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Does Bimbo use Union labor? I bet the plants reopen under their ownership.

They already own everything else!

Them Thomas' toaster cakes suck now.

Posted: 11/12/2012 2:59:46 PM EDT

[#40]

OK guys, don't get ahead of yourselves, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Union will see this as a success, and be 100% sincere about it. They really would rather be unemployed than give up anything. With the benefits available to people who don't care to work these days it may actually be a win for them.