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Posted: 2/1/2011 12:20:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 12:20:27 PM EDT by capnrob97]
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20030265-265.html?tag=topStories1

"SAN FRANCISCO––Hours after Google accused Microsoft of copying its search results, representatives from the two companies exchanged rhetorical blows over the difference between "copying" and "listening to users.

Google's Matt Cutts and Microsoft's Harry Shum smiled for the cameras at the Farsight 2011 conference today but barely disguised their mutual contempt. It was the first public appearance by each following Google's revelation that it set a trap to test whether Microsoft was using browser click data from Internet Explorer users on Google to inform search results on Bing."




Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:46:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:50:26 PM EDT
Lawyers!

Can ye smell 'em?
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:51:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By iNuhBaDNayburhood:
Ooooh! Tag!


Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:56:33 PM EDT
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

F Microsoft. They are second only to the Chinese when it comes to stealing ideas and intellectual property. The only difference is most of the stuff the chinese steal, they can make it work (most of the time).
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:56:55 PM EDT
one more reason not to use IE.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:57:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:14:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.


but it sounds so cool to say "just bing it"
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:26:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.

or Windows..
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:34:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:

Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.

or Windows..


or pants.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:35:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:

Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.

or Windows..


or pants.

Down with pants!


/And M$

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:38:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:41:32 PM EDT
NERRRRRDDDSSSSSSSS
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:41:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:42:19 PM EDT
Or Google. Seriously Google violates more privacy than anyone. They even tell you about it. They search through the documents on your computer and through the email in your gmail account so they can target advertisements towards you.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:44:20 PM EDT
so a bing toolbar sees when you search google for fuarock you click on arfcom so that when someone types fuarock into bing later arfcom comes up isn't that what spyware is supposed to do?



isnt this akin to pot calling the kettle black?
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:47:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:48:23 PM EDT
busted
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:52:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheNamelessOne:
so a bing toolbar sees when you search google for fuarock you click on arfcom so that when someone types fuarock into bing later arfcom comes up isn't that what spyware is supposed to do?
isnt this akin to pot calling the kettle black?

I wouldn't call it spyware.

MS was smart enough to use their Bing toolbar to help improve their searches. I am 100% ok with this.

Google is pissed because they didn't patent this.

I am sure MS was doing it to Yahoo and every other search engine out there.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:58:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.

Safari is a multi-platform including the PC. Now that your Dell is in a few pieces, what is your system?
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 1:59:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Or Google. Seriously Google violates more privacy than anyone. They even tell you about it. They search through the documents on your computer and through the email in your gmail account so they can target advertisements towards you.


when do they search through my computer? Is it when I install some shitty addon bar, cause I don't do that.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:00:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
Originally Posted By JDC_VA_USMC:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.

Or Bing.


but it sounds so cool to say "just bing it"

I use Whack. It's sounds way cooler.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:02:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Or Google. Seriously Google violates more privacy than anyone. They even tell you about it. They search through the documents on your computer and through the email in your gmail account so they can target advertisements towards you.

I use Google and they don't record my history.

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:05:15 PM EDT
I see nothing wrong with this, Microsoft using their customers' search data to improve their experience.

As if using Google Chrome doesn't ensure you are targeted with ads related to what you've been browsing when you use their search engine.

I'd bet money that a bing search in Google Chrome feeds data to Google, hell every thing you do in Chrome feeds data to Google.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:07:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chaingun:

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.

Safari is a multi-platform including the PC. Now that your Dell is in a few pieces, what is your system?


Dunno. Whatever comes in the Apple iMac Pro.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:09:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:11:25 PM EDT
Bing is Microsoft's what, fourth, attempt to build a search engine?

Clearly their approach is flawed. Bing sucks ass. Nobody uses it except complete newbs who don't know how to change the default home page.

Google does better searching Microsoft's web sites than Microsoft.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:14:27 PM EDT
This is stupid. Its no different that when I used google to search for "Firestone" when I was looking to buy tires, and they for the next month every ad on every page I visited was for Firestone. Everybody is just getting all butt hurt because MS is using their browser in conjunction with their search engine.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:14:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:15:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Chaingun:

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.

Safari is a multi-platform including the PC. Now that your Dell is in a few pieces, what is your system?


Dunno. Whatever comes in the Apple iMac Pro.

After all I did to help you with your Dell...



Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:17:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 2:27:39 PM EDT by CWO]
Given how Google exploits 110% of search engine, Gmail, Google application etc etc etc user's actions and data - I think it is the pot calling the kettle black. No firm holds your data privacy in as much contempt as Google.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:17:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.
I've never used Safari but there is some kind of spy-er not "ware" but something that is encoded into webpages that only Safari stops. I know that's a poor explanation, sorry.

I didn't know anyone still used IE. I only use it for some legal/court webpages that are so shitty they only work right in IE.


The Apple store lady told me that there is over 500K viruses for regular PC's, and 18 for Apple, and whenever one does come up for Apple they fix everyone with a patch for free. I'm about as computer illiterate as they come, so I'm surely not entirely accurate, but that was the gist of our conversation (something about open and closed operating systems). My daughter's had an iMac for 4 years, never had a virus, and said it runs as fast as the day she bought it.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:19:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 2:21:25 PM EDT by Andras]
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Chaingun:

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.


Hit the Apple menu, and click About this Mac. It'll tell you what version your OS is. Mine is 10.6.6 currently.

Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.

Safari is a multi-platform including the PC. Now that your Dell is in a few pieces, what is your system?


Dunno. Whatever comes in the Apple iMac Pro.


Hit the Apple menu and click About This Mac. That will tell you what version you are running. Mine is currently 10.6.6
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:22:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DV8:
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

F Microsoft. They are second only to the Chinese when it comes to stealing ideas and intellectual property. The only difference is most of the stuff the chinese steal, they can make it work (most of the time).


Google is the real evil. But like The Beast no one is going to believe it until it's too late.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:26:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Chaingun:

Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.


Now that I know what we know - I don't understand why anyone would put themselves through Microsucks bullshit. I'd post the pic of my last Dell 19" Inspiron lying on my kitchen floor with the screen punched out and keyboard folded in half (and not like it was designed to) but I saw the dogpiling old boy got for being wasteful after throwing his kids XBox 360 into the yard in GD. It was wasteful, but SOOOOOO satisfying after years of viruses, anti-viruses (that didn't work) and reduced performance I finally snapped - and so did that Dell.

Safari is a multi-platform including the PC. Now that your Dell is in a few pieces, what is your system?


Dunno. Whatever comes in the Apple iMac Pro.

After all I did to help you with your Dell...





Sowwy. But the Dell you resurrected for me was three laptops ago. This one was 3 weeks old when it got some nasty virus that stomped Mc Afee (that came with the Dell) so I had to uninstall it and I bought AVG8, after which I got kicked of IE about every 30 minutes or so religiously. One night, after a few shots of Beam it started it's bullshit and I came unglued and put my fist through the screen - which was completely and utterly childish, juvenile, even infantile - wasteful, and stupid.

I admit I had remorse almost immediately, but it completely subsided when I learned how to navigate around the new OS on the iMac. I'm never looking back buddy. No more late night "fix my computer Subby" phone calls from ol' Sharky pal!
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:26:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2011 2:29:41 PM EDT by caberfeidh]
Red on red violence. Both entities are dirty commies.

Only difference is that MS seems like it's lead by the type of commies that would serve as party functionaries and earn money and privilege building the gulags.

Google seems uniformly staffed by the types of dirty commies that would stage show trials and gleefully rat out neighbors.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:32:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
NERRRRRDDDSSSSSSSS


Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:35:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DV8:
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

When I'm not busy trashing Apple for their ridiculous company policies, I'm trashing MS for their craptastic products.

Just because MS is bad, doesn't make Apple good. A concept that's beyond most of the iTards I have to deal with.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 2:58:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By DV8:
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

When I'm not busy trashing Apple for their ridiculous company policies, I'm trashing MS for their craptastic products.

Just because MS is bad, doesn't make Apple good. A concept that's beyond most of the iTards I have to deal with.


And so my vocabulary grows by one word today.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:10:39 PM EDT
Bet this won't end well. I'd guess the lawyers are going nuts over this.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:21:28 PM EDT
You do realize google does the same thing........right?
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:25:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bludgeonmonkey:
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By DV8:
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

When I'm not busy trashing Apple for their ridiculous company policies, I'm trashing MS for their craptastic products.

Just because MS is bad, doesn't make Apple good. A concept that's beyond most of the iTards I have to deal with.


And so my vocabulary grows by one word today.


Mine too - and I think he just hurt my feeling.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:49:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bludgeonmonkey:
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By DV8:
I though MS was all powerful and all knowing? I thought they could do know wrong and Apple was the ultimate evil in the universe?

When I'm not busy trashing Apple for their ridiculous company policies, I'm trashing MS for their craptastic products.

Just because MS is bad, doesn't make Apple good. A concept that's beyond most of the iTards I have to deal with.


And so my vocabulary grows by one word today.



iAgree. iTard.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:52:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:54:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:54:22 PM EDT
I'll get in on page one.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 4:05:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.
I've never used Safari but there is some kind of spy-er not "ware" but something that is encoded into webpages that only Safari stops. I know that's a poor explanation, sorry.

I didn't know anyone still used IE. I only use it for some legal/court webpages that are so shitty they only work right in IE.


The Apple store lady told me that there is over 500K viruses for regular PC's, and 18 for Apple, and whenever one does come up for Apple they fix everyone with a patch for free. I'm about as computer illiterate as they come, so I'm surely not entirely accurate, but that was the gist of our conversation (something about open and closed operating systems). My daughter's had an iMac for 4 years, never had a virus, and said it runs as fast as the day she bought it.


I have had my PC for 4 years running Windows and I use IE for everything and I have never had a virus, and it runs as fast today as it did when it was new.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to keep crap off your computer but it does take common sense.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 4:09:56 PM EDT
This doesn't surprise me. I very much doubt that Google is innocent of such practices, either.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 4:14:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CWO:
Given how Google exploits 110% of search engine, Gmail, Google application etc etc etc user's actions and data - I think it is the pot calling the kettle black. No firm holds your data privacy in as much contempt as Google.


You do give your consent to their terms of service by using their said services.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 4:25:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By GR8TWYT:

Originally Posted By Molotov357:
one more reason not to use IE.


New Safari convert here. I'll never go back either.



Welcome my friend.
I've never used Safari but there is some kind of spy-er not "ware" but something that is encoded into webpages that only Safari stops. I know that's a poor explanation, sorry.

I didn't know anyone still used IE. I only use it for some legal/court webpages that are so shitty they only work right in IE.


The Apple store lady told me that there is over 500K viruses for regular PC's, and 18 for Apple, and whenever one does come up for Apple they fix everyone with a patch for free. I'm about as computer illiterate as they come, so I'm surely not entirely accurate, but that was the gist of our conversation (something about open and closed operating systems). My daughter's had an iMac for 4 years, never had a virus, and said it runs as fast as the day she bought it.


I have had my PC for 4 years running Windows and I use IE for everything and I have never had a virus, and it runs as fast today as it did when it was new.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to keep crap off your computer but it does take common sense.

BigDozer66



Where would you like me to send your cookie?
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 4:36:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheRocketmac:
Originally Posted By CWO:
Given how Google exploits 110% of search engine, Gmail, Google application etc etc etc user's actions and data - I think it is the pot calling the kettle black. No firm holds your data privacy in as much contempt as Google.


You do give your consent to their terms of service by using their said services.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Not if you email someone who is using GMail, but don't have a Google account yourself.
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