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Posted: 5/26/2008 4:33:47 AM EST
Preacher either was the assassin/believer or was a assassin/believer type...

Anyone else get this feeling?
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 5:07:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/26/2008 5:08:19 AM EST by AJ-IN-JAX]
Oh yeah.

The episode where they go rescue Mal and Wash from Nishka, he cleans up.


That and when he gets medical attention really really quick.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 11:44:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/26/2008 11:52:42 AM EST by pearson]
i think that he is the general that came to serenity valley and turned the tied agents the independence. this is when he found God and when Mel lost God.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 7:01:59 PM EST
Yeah, I got the vibe he was a former assasin bady to, and I like pearsons theory to.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 7:26:26 PM EST
One day you're gona explain to us how a preacher knows so much about crime.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 7:33:14 PM EST
For some reason he never struck me as a military man. Can't exactly say why either, but he always seemed to scream "politician" type to me. I know the whole "won't use guns/won't kill" thing points to ex-assassin type....but my gut seemed to go with former council-member type.
Link Posted: 5/26/2008 7:40:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By pearson:
i think that he is the general that came to serenity valley and turned the tide against the independence. this is when he found God and when Mel lost God.


That is such a good theory, and so well summarized, that it actually makes me stop caring what the real story was going to be.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 2:49:20 AM EST
Another of the many fascinating story lines we'll never really know about, thanks to Fox's shortsightedness.
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 4:10:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By hard-case:
For some reason he never struck me as a military man. Can't exactly say why either, but he always seemed to scream "politician" type to me. I know the whole "won't use guns/won't kill" thing points to ex-assassin type....but my gut seemed to go with former council-member type.


the assassin is definitely more political than military, no?

that's why I think it fits.

my really out there theory here is that HE WAS THE assassin in firefly.

time warp thingie

he loses his belief in the greater good of the central system at the end of firefly and to make up for it he becomes a preacher in the outer systems and the kicker is his dying words to mel.....

that was one great motherfugging show/movie.

wow.
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 7:34:35 AM EST
IMO he was a former intelligence officer
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 9:49:27 AM EST
I am sure most of you know this already but if you go to Hulu you can watch Firefly episodes on demand over your computer.

FWIW it also has cool shows like SWAT, Emergency, Hill Street Blues, Family Guy and a shit ton of others.
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 9:50:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By PFD147:
I am sure most of you know this already but if you go to Hulu you can watch Firefly episodes on demand over your computer.

FWIW it also has cool shows like SWAT, Emergency, Hill Street Blues, Family Guy and a shit ton of others.


boss was away last week, hulu'd the whole series. hence the question
Link Posted: 6/4/2008 2:12:29 PM EST
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:03:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By pearson:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?


he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:07:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By pearson:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?


he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.


He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:22:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/5/2008 5:23:24 AM EST by chapperjoe]

Originally Posted By AKSig:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By pearson:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?


he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.


He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.



oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:33:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By AKSig:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By pearson:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?


he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.


He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.



oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.


Link Posted: 6/5/2008 5:57:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By AKSig:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By AKSig:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By pearson:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?


he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.


He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.



oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.




And he was GREAT in Full Metal Jacket.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:04:26 AM EST
the first scene he's in in FMJ has some of the greatest lines ever.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:13:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
the first scene he's in in FMJ has some of the greatest lines ever.


youtube.com/watch?v=0hBSGEzpw-8

Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:31:56 AM EST
my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."



Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:39:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/5/2008 6:43:35 AM EST by Currahee]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."







I say that line frequently and out of the blue. I have for years. I can remember saying it on FTXs in Korea, sitting on a truck ready to head out. Now maybe when we're standing around waiting for a stage to start at a practical competition. To date everyone just looks at me strange and doesn't get it.

It wasn't Baldwin/Animal Mother that said it though. It was the Assistant squad leader (I think) when he was showing of the dead VC/NVA guy.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:42:00 AM EST
Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 6:47:18 AM EST
I'll go with ex operative, but some of these theories are outstanding!
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 7:11:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Currahee:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."







I say that line frequently and out of the blue. I have for years. I can remember saying it on FTXs in Korea, sitting on a truck ready to head out. Now maybe when we're standing around waiting for a stage to start at a practical competition. To date everyone just looks at me strange and doesn't get it.

It wasn't Baldwin/Animal Mother that said it though. It was the Assistant squad leader (I think) when he was showing of the dead VC/NVA guy.


NOBODY gets it when I say it and its so disappointing cause to me its one of THE greatest deliveries of a line ever. (I know who says it!!!!! )

disclaimer: I've never served though, I just love the line.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 7:12:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By Currahee:
Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!


that's why I think through some time warp thing he IS the preacher. Not replace, but IS/BECOMES
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 10:55:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By Currahee:
Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!


that's why I think through some time warp thing he IS the preacher. Not replace, but IS/BECOMES


So he actually kills himself in his past in the future......to quote Neo..."whoa."
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 11:13:49 AM EST
its cosmic penance.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 11:21:26 AM EST
Jubal Early: "That's no Shepard."
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 11:46:21 AM EST
yup.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 1:37:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Jubal Early: "That's no Shepard."


With everyone saying that it kinda makes you wonder.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 1:44:04 PM EST
I'll theorize that he is a spy/operative that had a change of heart while on board and gets assassinated in the movie for not doing his job.
Link Posted: 6/5/2008 2:56:22 PM EST
he was killed in the movie just because he helped the crew of serenity. his town was not the only one destroyed.
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