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Posted: 5/26/2008 5:33:47 AM EDT

Preacher either was the assassin/believer or was a assassin/believer type...

Anyone else get this feeling?

Posted: 5/26/2008 6:07:46 AM EDT

[#1]

Oh yeah.

The episode where they go rescue Mal and Wash from Nishka, he cleans up.

That and when he gets medical attention really really quick.

Posted: 5/26/2008 12:44:46 PM EDT

[#2]

i think that he is the general that came to serenity valley and turned the tied agents the independence. this is when he found God and when Mel lost God.

Posted: 5/26/2008 8:01:59 PM EDT

[#3]

Yeah, I got the vibe he was a former assasin bady to, and I like pearsons theory to.

Posted: 5/26/2008 8:26:26 PM EDT

[#4]

One day you're gona explain to us how a preacher knows so much about crime.

Posted: 5/26/2008 8:33:14 PM EDT

[#5]

For some reason he never struck me as a military man. Can't exactly say why either, but he always seemed to scream "politician" type to me. I know the whole "won't use guns/won't kill" thing points to ex-assassin type....but my gut seemed to go with former council-member type.

Posted: 5/26/2008 8:40:09 PM EDT

[#6]

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i think that he is the general that came to serenity valley and turned the tide against the independence. this is when he found God and when Mel lost God.

That is such a good theory, and so well summarized, that it actually makes me stop caring what the real story was going to be.

Thanks!

Posted: 5/27/2008 3:49:20 AM EDT

[#7]

Another of the many fascinating story lines we'll never really know about, thanks to Fox's shortsightedness.

Posted: 5/27/2008 5:10:01 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
For some reason he never struck me as a military man. Can't exactly say why either, but he always seemed to scream "politician" type to me. I know the whole "won't use guns/won't kill" thing points to ex-assassin type....but my gut seemed to go with former council-member type.

the assassin is definitely more political than military, no?

that's why I think it fits.

my really out there theory here is that HE WAS THE assassin in firefly.

time warp thingie

he loses his belief in the greater good of the central system at the end of firefly and to make up for it he becomes a preacher in the outer systems and the kicker is his dying words to mel.....

that was one great motherfugging show/movie.

wow.

Posted: 5/27/2008 8:34:35 AM EDT

[#9]

IMO he was a former intelligence officer

Posted: 5/27/2008 10:49:27 AM EDT

[#10]

I am sure most of you know this already but if you go to Hulu you can watch Firefly episodes on demand over your computer.

FWIW it also has cool shows like SWAT, Emergency, Hill Street Blues, Family Guy and a shit ton of others.

Posted: 5/27/2008 10:50:15 AM EDT

[#11]

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I am sure most of you know this already but if you go to Hulu you can watch Firefly episodes on demand over your computer.

FWIW it also has cool shows like SWAT, Emergency, Hill Street Blues, Family Guy and a shit ton of others.

boss was away last week, hulu'd the whole series. hence the question

Posted: 6/4/2008 3:12:29 PM EDT

[#12]

They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:03:14 AM EDT

[#13]

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They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:07:19 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

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They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.

He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:22:56 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.

He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.

oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:33:22 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.

He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.

oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.

Posted: 6/5/2008 6:57:39 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They make a psychiatrist get psychoanalyzed before he can become certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?

he's got some good lines.

Can't believe one of the baldwins is actually entertaining.

He is not related to the Baldwins your thinking of.

oh jeez that is too funny.

did not know that till right now.

he should sue them for slandering his good name.

And he was GREAT in Full Metal Jacket.

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:04:26 AM EDT

[#18]

the first scene he's in in FMJ has some of the greatest lines ever.

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:13:51 AM EDT

[#19]

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the first scene he's in in FMJ has some of the greatest lines ever.

youtube.com/watch?v=0hBSGEzpw-8

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:31:56 AM EDT

[#20]

my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:39:47 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."

I say that line frequently and out of the blue. I have for years. I can remember saying it on FTXs in Korea, sitting on a truck ready to head out. Now maybe when we're standing around waiting for a stage to start at a practical competition. To date everyone just looks at me strange and doesn't get it.

It wasn't Baldwin/Animal Mother that said it though. It was the Assistant squad leader (I think) when he was showing of the dead VC/NVA guy.

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:42:00 AM EDT

[#22]

Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!

Posted: 6/5/2008 7:47:18 AM EDT

[#23]

I'll go with ex operative, but some of these theories are outstanding!

Posted: 6/5/2008 8:11:39 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
my favorite two words in any movie "...with guns!"

genius.

My favorite line in any movie. His eyebrows MAKE the line, scene and movie for me.

"..... these are great days we're living bros;

We're jolly green giants walking the earth .. with guns."

I say that line frequently and out of the blue. I have for years. I can remember saying it on FTXs in Korea, sitting on a truck ready to head out. Now maybe when we're standing around waiting for a stage to start at a practical competition. To date everyone just looks at me strange and doesn't get it.

It wasn't Baldwin/Animal Mother that said it though. It was the Assistant squad leader (I think) when he was showing of the dead VC/NVA guy.

NOBODY gets it when I say it and its so disappointing cause to me its one of THE greatest deliveries of a line ever. (I know who says it!!!!!

)

disclaimer: I've never served though, I just love the line.

Posted: 6/5/2008 8:12:29 AM EDT

[#25]

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Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!

that's why I think through some time warp thing he IS the preacher. Not replace, but IS/BECOMES

Posted: 6/5/2008 11:55:03 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not to Hijack the thread... I always believed he was an ex "operative," in the end of the movie the operative is leaving the government... he is going to replace the preacher he had killed in the whole universal balance of good and evil.

I love that show/movie!

that's why I think through some time warp thing he IS the preacher. Not replace, but IS/BECOMES

So he actually kills himself in his past in the future......to quote Neo..."whoa."