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Posted: 10/29/2013 11:23:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2013 11:26:19 AM EST by caduckgunner]
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Good job Ford...




1. Ford C-MAX Energi
2. Ford Escape
3. Mini Cooper Countryman
4. Ford C-MAX Hybrid
5. Nissan Pathfinder
6. Volkswagen Beetle
7. Cadillac XTS
8. Ford Explorer
9. Hyundai Genesis Coupe
10. Ford Taurus



Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:33:17 AM EST
Found On Road, Dead.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:34:09 AM EST
I had a Mercury Sable back in the day. It's the last Ford product I will ever buy
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:37:19 AM EST
I'm surprised to find the Escape there. Mine (2001) served me very well; at 320k+ miles it finally crapped out (water jacket leaking BAD). But hey, over 320 thousand miles, with minimal maintenance?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:37:31 AM EST
my Mini aint do nuffin wrong...
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:38:45 AM EST
F*cking Old Rebuilt Dodge.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:39:10 AM EST
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:40:15 AM EST
surprised there is no Jag, Austin Martin, Range Rover, Ferrari, etc..

Had a old guy in a red 458 Italia sitting next me while we were both outside at the UPS store. Damn the car is fine
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:40:55 AM EST
Consumer Reports has just about the shittiest methods of determining reliability ever.

Toss that shit in the trash, and head over to True Delta.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:41:28 AM EST
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I've learned CR is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:42:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Consumer Reports has just about the shittiest methods of determining reliability ever.

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Oh Bullshit. I have found them to be dead on with the cars/trucks I and my family have owned.

Dead on.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:42:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
I'm surprised to find the Escape there. Mine (2001) served me very well; at 320k+ miles it finally crapped out (water jacket leaking BAD). But hey, over 320 thousand miles, with minimal maintenance?
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What did the article say was wrong with the escape?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:43:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
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+1

This thread is bullshit, CR has no credibility.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:44:28 AM EST
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Found On Road, Dead.
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Fix
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Daily.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:44:32 AM EST
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I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:44:48 AM EST
No Dodge???
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:45:13 AM EST
I have absolutely NO use for Consumer Reports!
It's a useless piece of shit rag!
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:45:22 AM EST
Quick, everybody run out and support foreign heavy industry.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:45:41 AM EST
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They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
And they way they do exactly that, is embarrassingly flawed.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:45:41 AM EST
Wow! No range rover on that list. Impressive.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:46:12 AM EST
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See also: Shit survey methodology.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:47:28 AM EST
Half are Fords... unpossible!
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:47:55 AM EST
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And they way they do exactly that, is embarrassingly flawed.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
And they way they do exactly that, is embarrassingly flawed.


Tell me how.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:48:26 AM EST
Didn't consumer reports rank the Corvette Z06 lower then the two exotics it was up against despite having a far far lower price tag and beating the exotics in almost every objective test because IT DIDN'T HAVE CUP HOLDERS.

Yea, you read that right. They rated lower because a sports car didn't have cup holders.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:50:08 AM EST
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Consumer Reports has just about the shittiest methods of determining reliability ever.

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Toss that shit in the trash, and head over to True Delta.

This.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:51:40 AM EST
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They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.


They are a LIBERAL mag, therefore the majority of their subscribers are also liberal American hating pukes and their reviews align with their audience.

I know lets do a survey HERE on whether an AR-15 or an AK 47 is better
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:52:00 AM EST
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Doesn't list specific model years and the common malfunctions. Just like liberals to conveniently leave out facts.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:52:05 AM EST
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Fix
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Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Found On Road, Dead.

Fix
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Daily.


Fucker Only Rolls Downhill
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:52:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dipper:


Tell me how.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
And they way they do exactly that, is embarrassingly flawed.


Tell me how.
There readers are not a random sample of the overall car buying public.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:53:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
I'm surprised to find the Escape there. Mine (2001) served me very well; at 320k+ miles it finally crapped out (water jacket leaking BAD). But hey, over 320 thousand miles, with minimal maintenance?
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i think the problem with ford is it either works or its a lemon.

its like there is no in between.

also im surprised the genesis is on there i almost bought one.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:53:47 AM EST
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Tell me how.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


I've learned CU is just like the Movie critics, if they HATE it , I KNOW it will be GOOD.


They report data from actual owners and their experiences with the model in question.

It isn't a matter of what they hate or don't like.
And they way they do exactly that, is embarrassingly flawed.


Tell me how.
http://www.truedelta.com/pieces/shortcomings.php

Read up.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:54:06 AM EST
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Fucker Only Rolls Downhill
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Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
Found On Road, Dead.

Fix
Or
Repair
Daily.


Fucker Only Rolls Downhill
First On Race Day
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:54:37 AM EST
If I can pick out the Ford owners in this thread what do I win?


Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:54:39 AM EST
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Old hippie rag.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:56:19 AM EST
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Doesn't list specific model years and the common malfunctions. Just like liberals to conveniently leave out facts.
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Originally Posted By Gmezz4:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


Doesn't list specific model years and the common malfunctions. Just like liberals to conveniently leave out facts.


LOL! You have never looked at a CR car issue have you? The one I have here.....latest edition.... lists model years from 03-12. It also lists the problem areas and what the chart means.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:56:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TheNamelessOne:

i think the problem with ford is it either works or its a lemon.

its like there is no in between.

also im surprised the genesis is on there i almost bought one.
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Originally Posted By TheNamelessOne:
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
I'm surprised to find the Escape there. Mine (2001) served me very well; at 320k+ miles it finally crapped out (water jacket leaking BAD). But hey, over 320 thousand miles, with minimal maintenance?

i think the problem with ford is it either works or its a lemon.

its like there is no in between.

also im surprised the genesis is on there i almost bought one.


I know someone who picked one up that had a special dealer incentive of doubling the warranty to 200k. He's yet to have an issue.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:57:10 AM EST

It looks like the Escape is the eco-boost version and the Taurus is the turbo

version. No mention of the average run of the mill vehicle. My MIL has an Escape

with about 100k on it and nothing done but tires and brakes. My son has an 06

Taurus that fixed for him when it had 30k on it. He has 130k on it now and other than

Tires and brakes only a coil and two o2 sensors



Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:57:45 AM EST
Guys, I've been in the Automotive industry for twenty years. I can, without any shred of doubt, tell you that every car ever made is a steaming pile of shit. Some just steam less than others.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 11:58:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Silverbulletz06:
Didn't consumer reports rank the Corvette Z06 lower then the two exotics it was up against despite having a far far lower price tag and beating the exotics in almost every objective test because IT DIDN'T HAVE CUP HOLDERS.

Yea, you read that right. They rated lower because a sports car didn't have cup holders.
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That is pretty stupid. BUT, they have probably saved a couple of people from having an LS7 drop a valve and kaboom the engine.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:04:34 PM EST
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Fuggin'
Ol'
Rebuilt
Dodge





The Ol' Crew Chief
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Sounds like someone who has an ax to grind and a product to sell....... bunch of " what I think" is what I get out of that.

Like I said, my experiences say that consumer reports is pretty much dead on in their reports.

Maybe I just know how to read the data and charts or understand them better than that dude and his infomercial.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:08:19 PM EST
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Sounds like someone who has an ax to grind and a product to sell....... bunch of " what I think" is what I get out of that.

Like I said, my experiences say that consumer reports is pretty much dead on in their reports.

Maybe I just know how to read the data and charts or understand them better than that dude and his infomercial.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:Read up.


Sounds like someone who has an ax to grind and a product to sell....... bunch of " what I think" is what I get out of that.

Like I said, my experiences say that consumer reports is pretty much dead on in their reports.

Maybe I just know how to read the data and charts or understand them better than that dude and his infomercial.
Read it again, until it sinks in.

Oh, and it's free. Consumer Reports isn't.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:11:39 PM EST
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Read it again, until it sinks in.

Oh, and it's free. Consumer Reports isn't.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:

Originally Posted By Subnet:Read up.


Sounds like someone who has an ax to grind and a product to sell....... bunch of " what I think" is what I get out of that.

Like I said, my experiences say that consumer reports is pretty much dead on in their reports.

Maybe I just know how to read the data and charts or understand them better than that dude and his infomercial.
Read it again, until it sinks in.

Oh, and it's free. Consumer Reports isn't.


That's OK, I'm happy with CR. From our vac. cleaner, TV, blender, cars, truck, etc. I have found them to be very good at picking winners and losers. I don't mind what I pay for CR, I believe it has saved me much more and probably a ton in aggravation.

AND, why the hell do I want to know about a cars reliability for at the age of 4 months?? What fucking car doesn't go 4 months without a problem? Stale data?? RIGHT??

ETA: Only once in my lifetime have I purchased a first year model. Don't do it..... wait until the next model year.

Ford EcoBoost owners should have waited..... I'm not interested in being a test subject.

OH, and just what kind of data can you report in 4 months? How many miles driven?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:21:46 PM EST
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Don't they have some quiet financial arrangement with Toyota?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:34:41 PM EST
Yeah, I know this list must be faulty or my eyes are deceiving me. No WAY their is a least reliable car award and only one Volkswagen made the list! Haters going to hate, and yes, I am on my third.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:38:48 PM EST
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Found On Road, Dead.

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Dang it! I'm WAAYYYYYYYY too slow... wanted to jump in and post Fixed Or Repaired Daily....
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:43:18 PM EST
FWIW, consumer reports couldn't get an 87 Buick regal T-type to run 0-60 in under 8 seconds

And the big complaint on the Ford's is the my touch entertainment control touch screens


Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:49:33 PM EST
I've had many cars over the years, but the ones I've kept and currently own are a Mazda, Honda, Toyota, and a Subaru. The crack industrial engineers that we sent to Japan after the war taught them well.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:56:45 PM EST
My mustang is still chugging along with 600wrhp
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 12:58:24 PM EST
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LOL! You have never looked at a CR car issue have you? The one I have here.....latest edition.... lists model years from 03-12. It also lists the problem areas and what the chart means.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By Gmezz4:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Consumer reports is a horseshit liberal publication.


Doesn't list specific model years and the common malfunctions. Just like liberals to conveniently leave out facts.


LOL! You have never looked at a CR car issue have you? The one I have here.....latest edition.... lists model years from 03-12. It also lists the problem areas and what the chart means.


LOL. Different engines come in different years and their own set of problems! LOL! 9 years is a pretty big window.
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