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Posted: 8/8/2005 11:15:52 AM EDT

You might have seen this already, as it was all over the Lightfighter.net discussion board at the end of last year. Basically, some stupid ass PFC got an article written in his hometown newspaper about him being the 'youngest Green Beret sniper in the history of the Army'.

He described his rank as 'classified', even though he is clearly wearing E-3 insignia in the photo. The Lightfighter crew completely destroyed this kid, sending the story to his chain of command, calling his family asking why they raised such a dumbass, etc.

And now for the pic. Spot as many inaccuracies as you can, from a supposed 10th SFG sniper.

Special To The Times
Deadeye Fort Morgan resident Michael Chabot displays his newly acquired Green Beret as an Army Special Forces sniper. Chabot is both the lowest ranking and youngest solider to ever complete the five-week training. A 2000 graduate of Fort Morgan High School, he is the son of Mike and Sarah Chabot of Fort Morgan.

By ROB JENKINS

When Fort Morgan resident Michael Chabot enlisted in the United States Army, he had only one goal on his mind.

To become a special forces sniper. To live a life of being "always outnumbered, never outgunned."

On Nov. 24 of this year in Fort Benning, Ga., Chabot realized that goal by becoming the lowest ranking -- his rank is currently classified -- and the youngest graduate of the Army's Green Beret Special Forces sniper training since the school was founded during the Vietnam War. Of the 8,000 people in his pool who applied to attend the Green Beret school, Chabot was one of two selected to attend.

At 22 years old, Chabot completed the five-week grueling training that included "engaging" targets, camouflage, physical training and starvation that most men 10 years his superior, and with years more military experience, failed or "washed" out of just days after starting.

Chabot noted that while there is a lot about the training that is classified, there still is not a whole lot he can recall about his five weeks in Georgia.

"It's all a big blur kind of; it was so horrible," Chabot said in a phone conversation from Fort Carson in Colorado Springs.

During his training Chabot learned how to "engage" or shoot targets from long distances. He has also become an expert in camouflage, something that snipers must rely on for survival, he said.

"Camouflage and conceal: That is our number one trademark," Chabot explained.

Chabot was also subjected to days of harsh physical training as a part of his training to help simulate some of the conditions that snipers and their spotters encounter behind enemy lines.

One instance that Chabot is at liberty to talk to about was a two-day stretch where Chabot and his classmates continued tracking and engaging targets while staying hidden -- and they did it without any food.

Chabot and his classmates were also subjected to a battery of mental tests designed to push their psyches to the breaking point. Chabot cited as examples two-day missions that unexpectedly extended to four days with each of the snipers and their spotters with enough supplies for just two days out in the field.

"You're not expecting it because it comes from your instructors," Chabot said of the mental training.

Those soldiers who cannot hack it in Green Beret school "washed out" of the school, Chabot explained, which simply means that if the soliders cannot meet one of the physical or mental challenges set before them, they are summarily expelled from the training. Of the 38 soldiers who began the Green Beret training, half of them or 19 soldiers, were expelled.

Over the course of the five-week training, Chabot and his graduating classmates established themselves as the brightest, most motivated and most lethal soldiers in the United States Army.

"The guys I trained with and the people I'm with, they're the best of the best," Chabot says of his comrades. "If you mess with them, you're in some serious trouble."

Now that his training is completed, Chabot awaits February where he will be deployed to Iraq to an undisclosed, extremely hostile location where it will be just himself and his spotter for two days on end.

Chabot is what is known in sniper teams as the gunner. In other words, Chabot is and in every situation will always be "the only shooter," he explains. Chabot's partner in the field is what's known as a spotter. It is the spotter's job to help navigate maps, pick out targets and "watch the gunner's back" out in the field.

Typically, a mission for Chabot and his spotter will begin at headquarters where they will receive their objective. From there, Chabot and his spotter move into the area for a "day or two" and engage any and all enemy targets. Chabot explains an "enemy target" as anyone perceived to be an enemy who is carrying a firearm. Deployments for Green Beret snipers generally run from 12 to 18 months, and it is classified how many times Chabot and his spotter could be called on for missions.

And while most Special Forces snipers' minds are locked on their jobs, their targets, Chabot's mind is at home in Fort Morgan:

"I'd like to send my love to my parents and my best friends, Joel and Scott."

Lightfighter discussion link.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:17:52 AM EDT

[#1]

Well, he looks about 19 and appears to be holding a Savage or a Remington.

And I am no military expert but they patch doesn't look right.

Sgat1r5

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:02 AM EDT

[#2]

He sure does have a real purdy mouth!

BUSTED.......DUMBASS!

HS1

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:03 AM EDT

[#3]

He's what... 15 maybe.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:11 AM EDT

[#4]

No AWP? psssshhh

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:35 AM EDT

[#5]

I want to know what his chain of command did, if anything. More to the point, I want to know what his NCO's did to him.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:41 AM EDT

[#6]

Would be better if it had a Tac Point on it.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:18:54 AM EDT

[#7]

camo
beret
sniper rifle
what's not to believe..

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:19:25 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Well, he looks about 19 and appears to be holding a Savage or a Remington.

And I am no military expert but they patch doesn't look right.

Sgat1r5

I'm definitely going to say it's a Browning A-Bolt.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:19:50 AM EDT

[#9]

Not a day over 16.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:21:11 AM EDT

[#10]

I'm not in the military, but it looks like he doesn't even know how to hold a gun properly. At least his finger isn't on the trigger.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:21:47 AM EDT

[#11]

On his name tag, assume the rifle is covering an S to say "Sabot", is he implying that he is armor piercing too?

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:21:59 AM EDT

[#12]

Kinda weird that to become SF, you are made a SGT first.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:22:07 AM EDT

[#13]

Leavenworth worthy.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:22:11 AM EDT

[#14]

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:22:13 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
camo
beret
sniper rifle
what's not to believe..

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:23:14 AM EDT

[#16]

Any old story link or name?

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:23:31 AM EDT

[#17]

That patch and the crest on the beret are from the Brave Rifles....3rd Armored Cavalry. I should know. They are stationed at our base, or were before they deployed to Iraq. The 10th Special Forces Group is also stationed here. BTW, "here" is Ft. Carson, Colorado. More than a few poeple over at the Group compound would be a little upset about this poser purporting to be part of their Group.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:28:03 AM EDT

[#18]

The rifle is a Ruger All Weather Lightweight, unknown caliber, but definetley not a snipers choice, I always thought most snipers from the Army were at least taken from the ranks of their veterans, like say specialists or NCO or higher. No rookies need apply type thing. Also, look at his pale white arms, defnetely not something any real sniper has, clean white arms, most ragged abused scuffed arms come from practice, practice, practice getting down and dirty. This kid looks like he barely got into boot camp, let alone a choice job like sniper, MOS 11B1B4

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:30:18 AM EDT

[#19]

In the early 90's in Norfolk, there was a young guy passing himself off as a Navy SEAL in his hometown rag once upon a time. (also wearing un-earned decorations and BUDWEISER)

He was an engineman third class and had been assigned to a SBU (these guys transport SF in small boats) out of Little Creek amphib base... guess that wasn't enough to feed his ego.

His young ass was busted and dishonorably discharged....

So, that is how it ought to turn out.

PITSNIPE OUT

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:32:09 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
That patch and the crest on the beret are from the Brave Rifles....3rd Armored Cavalry. I should know. They are stationed at our base, or were before they deployed to Iraq. The 10th Special Forces Group is also stationed here. BTW, "here" is Ft. Carson, Colorado. More than a few poeple over at the Group compound would be a little upset about this poser purporting to be part of their Group.

+1

My good buddy's sister is dating and has been dating a guy from the 10th SFG for about 3 years now.

Great guy too....currently in Iraq...

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:33:06 AM EDT

[#21]

It is abundantly clear the author had NO CLUE about his subject matter. Imagine that.

This guy has apparently made the rounds of all the forums. Funny stuff to read.

NorCal

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:34:00 AM EDT

[#22]

+1

looks like a toy gun to me too

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:36:10 AM EDT

[#23]

He's probably very deadly with an X-Box. Or a Game Cube. But that's classified.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:36:36 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
In the early 90's in Norfolk, there was a young guy passing himself off as a Navy SEAL in his hometown rag once upon a time. (also wearing un-earned decorations and BUDWEISER)

He was an engineman third class and had been assigned to a SBU (these guys transport SF in small boats) out of Little Creek amphib base... guess that wasn't enough to feed his ego.

His young ass was busted and dishonorably discharged....

So, that is how it ought to turn out.

PITSNIPE OUT

+1

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:37:49 AM EDT

[#25]

Sux to be him!

Why do people always feel the need to try to pass themselves off as someone they are not? Geez.

BTW, I was Carlos Hathcock's spotter back in Nam.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:39:28 AM EDT

[#26]

Browning A-Bolt in nice bright shiny SS with cheapo scope without mildot or other ranging knobs

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:39:37 AM EDT

[#27]

To make matters worse, it turns out his Regimental Commander is Col HR McMasters, who commanded the tank company at the Battle of 73 Easting during the Gulf War. 73 Easting is considered a textbook armor battle, so his commander is a real no-BS warrior.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:40:46 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
The rifle is a Ruger All Weather Lightweight, unknown caliber, but definetley not a snipers choice,

Nope, thats a Browning A-Bolt. Look, no 3-posistion safety like the Ruger has. Plus it doesnt have the old Mauser action

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:41:24 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Sux to be him!

Why do people always feel the need to try to pass themselves off as someone they are not? Geez.

BTW, I was Carlos Hathcock's spotter back in Nam.

Nice to meet ya Burke, I'm captain Land, and injun_ear over there is the frenchman Carlos killed lol

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:45:29 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, he looks about 19 and appears to be holding a Savage or a Remington.

And I am no military expert but they patch doesn't look right.

Sgat1r5

I'm definitely going to say it's a Browning A-Bolt.

You notice how nice and "bling bling" shiny the rifle is.........not hardly something a real sniper would want or use.

I agree sarge, I am not that up on SF patches, but the one on his beret doesn't look right.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:53:12 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
I want to know what his chain of command did, if anything. More to the point, I want to know what his NCO's did to him.

Yes. I would like to know also.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:53:25 AM EDT

[#32]

The lightfighter guys painted him a picture.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:54:01 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Sux to be him!

Why do people always feel the need to try to pass themselves off as someone they are not? Geez.

BTW, I was Carlos Hathcock's spotter back in Nam.

pffffft... i taught Mr hathcock everything he knew when he was my spotter during the civil war. we had in our sights several times but decided to let him live.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:54:24 AM EDT

[#34]

What a jackass.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:55:43 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, he looks about 19 and appears to be holding a Savage or a Remington.

And I am no military expert but they patch doesn't look right.

Sgat1r5

I'm definitely going to say it's a Browning A-Bolt.

I was going to say the same thing!

It is a very accurate rifle but you don't see very many of them in the hands of true snipers that are in the military!

BigDozer66

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:56:16 AM EDT

[#36]

Last year called. They want this thread back.

Posted: 8/8/2005 11:58:32 AM EDT

[#37]

Yea we had a couple very small Hispanic butter bars come to Korea while I was there with ranger tabs on. They were real ball breakers and had all the men hating them. One day while in formation the XO and the CC the 2 jackass post in front of the formation and ripped off the ranger tabs and had the MPs arrest them. It was great to watch. Not sure what happen to them but most Rangers are a pretty proud bunch so I would assume that the CC and the XO both combat vets with the Ranger Regi. probably threw the book at them.

I can still remember those 2 jackasses, Ranger this and Ranger that. Bitches! I think this guy should be sent over to 10SFG and be made to wash their fucking drawers and shine their boots until he is dishonorably discharged. Make him his own little special ed force.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:03:25 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Kinda weird that to become SF, you are made a SGT first.

What about 18x? Couldnt they end up there without making Sgt?

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:05:50 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Kinda weird that to become SF, you are made a SGT first.

What about 18x? Couldnt they end up there without making Sgt?

IIRC from the Go Army website a while ago, you went to staff sergeant or NCO acadamy or something to complete SFAS or something to that effect, that's what I remember from researching 18B

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:08:44 PM EDT

[#40]

Found this towards the end of the LF thread:

Chabot retracts his statements

By ROB JENKINS
Times Staff Writer

Fort Morgan resident and Army soldier Michael Chabot has retracted his statements to "take back information" regarding a Dec. 6 article "'Always outnumbered, never outgunned' M. Chabot: Green Beret Sniper" printed in The Times.

Chabot, who contacted the Times this morning from his post in Fort Carson along with two superior officers, retracted his statements for "command and safety purposes."

Chabot further stated that he was "under UCJ for falsifying qualifications."

First Sgt. Hernando Peña, representing Fort Carson command, added that "U.S. Special Forces are an elite group and an awesome set of gentlemen. It takes a lot to get where they're at. It is no easy feat."

I bet that was a fun day for Chabot.

In addition:

Young asshat has received a field grade Art 15, maxed out, and was required to write a formal apology to 10th SFG.

For those not in the military, punishment under a field grade Art 15 maxes out at 45 days restriction (usually to barracks, work, mess hall, and place of worship), 45 days extra duty (usually 1700-2400 on duty days, 0800-2400 on non-duty days), reduction to the grade E-1, and forfiture of 1/2 month's pay for 2 months (for an E-3 with under 2 years service, that = $703), and a verbal or written reprimand.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:09:44 PM EDT

[#41]

Kid can't even do his homework.
Isn't SOTIC at Bragg?

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:10:14 PM EDT

[#42]

I see his career as a gunshow deltaninjaswatrangerseal is off to a good start.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:10:56 PM EDT

[#43]

the article uses the phrase "enages targets" sooooooo many times. Is the sniper course for us sf guys really only 5 weeks?

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:21:34 PM EDT

[#44]

Shame he couldn't be proud just being what he was supposed to be.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:25:15 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
www.geardo.com/images/FUKKIT.JPG

The lightfighter guys painted him a picture.

www.jasoc.com/images/pfcchabot-fatpat.jpg

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:29:02 PM EDT

[#46]

Not enough scars on that boy to have been through any Q courses.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:41:37 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Kinda weird that to become SF, you are made a SGT first.

What about 18x? Couldnt they end up there without making Sgt?

IIRC from the Go Army website a while ago, you went to staff sergeant or NCO acadamy or something to complete SFAS or something to that effect, that's what I remember from researching 18B

If I remember right...

18x'ers will attend PLDC and BNCOC after SFAS or sometime during the Q course... don't remember exactly. Upon graduating the Q course they become SGTs.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:43:11 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
Quoted:
www.geardo.com/images/FUKKIT.JPG

The lightfighter guys painted him a picture.

www.jasoc.com/images/pfcchabot-fatpat.jpg

Too real! So this guy IS real military, but a SF poser? WTF?

HAHA!

Ben

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:45:53 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
If I remember right...

18x'ers will attend PLDC and BNCOC after SFAS or sometime during the Q course... don't remember exactly. Upon graduating the Q course they become SGTs.

That sounds about right, maybe someone could verify that.

Posted: 8/8/2005 12:48:17 PM EDT

[#50]

Fag...

I mean tag...

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