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Posted: 9/21/2004 2:06:44 PM EST
I just heard this album today. Is it the best Metallica album ever?

Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:07:36 PM EST
Some will say yes.. some will say no. I prefer Master of Puppets. Most stoners will say Ride the lightning.

Ohh yeah,,,
IBTL
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:09:04 PM EST
?
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:09:35 PM EST
Just today?!

I really like ...and Justice for All

--it's hard to pick one though.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:09:52 PM EST
Master of Puppets
....And Justice for All
Kill 'em All
Ride the Lightning
Metallica

In that order.

I can't rank the new stuff since it's so fuckin' different from their older stuff. Call em sell outs, over the hill, washups, whatever. Go to a live show and let them change your mind. One of The Best Concerts Ever.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:11:07 PM EST
IBTL
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:11:35 PM EST
RTL
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:13:16 PM EST
BLACK ALBUM
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:14:33 PM EST
Master of Puppets. Music to make love to.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:15:51 PM EST
... And Justice For All will always be my favorite. I just wish they had mixed in more bottom end when they mastered it. That fact alone is the main reason why the black album that came out after it was so bass heavy.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:16:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By colinjay:
I just heard this album today. Is it the best Metallica album ever?




Definately.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:16:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
Master of Puppets
....And Justice for All
Kill 'em All
Ride the Lightning
Metallica

In that order.

I can't rank the new stuff since it's so fuckin' different from their older stuff. Call em sell outs, over the hill, washups, whatever. Go to a live show and let them change your mind. One of The Best Concerts Ever.



OK, they are sell outs, over the hill and washed up... Once I heard them sing "I've even sucked an old mans cock" I was done listening to their new stuff.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:16:59 PM EST
Master of Puppets Or Lightning, its a toss up.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:17:22 PM EST
too bad that Kill 'Em All isn't on iTunes...
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:17:26 PM EST
It's very good, but the subrepticious black one kick ass too....



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Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:19:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4:

Originally Posted By colinjay:
I just heard this album today. Is it the best Metallica album ever?

www.funhousetrading.com/metallica_kill_em_all_lg.jpg



Definately.



A big yes, and I would like to dedicate that album to Terrorists everywhere
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:19:23 PM EST
sure is! followed by puppets and garage days.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:20:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boomholzer:
sure is! followed by puppets and garage days.




Not for sure, but don't you mean Garage inc.?
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:20:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2004 2:24:07 PM EST by MillerSHO]
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:21:06 PM EST
...And Justice for All
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:21:39 PM EST
....And Justice for All

The two times I saw them, they put on the best shows I've ever seen.
I still won't go see them again.
F-ck James.
F-ck Lars.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:22:28 PM EST
What? nobody likes St. Anger?



­good, me neither. I'd have to go with master of puppets or black.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:23:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
Master of Puppets
....And Justice for All
Kill 'em All
Ride the Lightning
Metallica

In that order.

I can't rank the new stuff since it's so fuckin' different from their older stuff. Call em sell outs, over the hill, washups, whatever. Go to a live show and let them change your mind. One of The Best Concerts Ever.



OK, they are sell outs, over the hill and washed up... Once I heard them sing "I've even sucked an old mans cock" I was done listening to their new stuff.



Geez, it was a cover!
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:29:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:

Originally Posted By Boomholzer:
sure is! followed by puppets and garage days.




Not for sure, but don't you mean Garage inc.?



no dude, that was from 1998, 11 years after.

Garage Days ReRevisited:

Helpless,
The small hours
the wait.....
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:40:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2004 2:41:39 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:41:18 PM EST
...and Justice for All
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:42:12 PM EST
Kill 'Em All, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning. Their early stuff was so good. Its a shame that the tour bus tipped over on Cliff.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:49:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I personally don't understand why people say master of puppets is their best album, I think it's just above the black album.



Because it's the last album that Cliff Burton played on, and he was a God. Hands down the best bass player of all time.

Master of Puppets was the pinacle of the true Metallica. And Justice for all was much more of a studio album.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:50:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Does it get any better than Leper Mesiah or The Thing That Should Not Be?



Yes, and it starts out "bass solo, take one".
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 2:56:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Master of Puppets.

Does it get any better than Leper Mesiah or The Thing That Should Not Be?



That is good stuff Lumpy - I agree. Your Aimpoint still sucks though.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:00:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By BlackDog714:
OK, they are sell outs, over the hill and washed up... Once I heard them sing "I've even sucked an old mans cock" I was done listening to their new stuff.



That was a cover of the Anit-Nowhere Leauge's "So What". Not Metallica's work, just a cover song on Garage Inc.

Ride The Lightning or Justice... hard to decide.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:01:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2004 3:02:28 PM EST by MillerSHO]
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:02:49 PM EST
$5.98 ep album(garage days) when Cliff was still alive...ya' they've been around that long..........
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:06:54 PM EST
RTL and MOP...
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:12:08 PM EST
NONE - Metallica sux!

<­BR>

PSYOPS rules!
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:13:19 PM EST
Master of Puppets
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:13:48 PM EST
how about...none of the above because metallica is irrelevant, sucks, and has sucked for years...
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:14:13 PM EST
Master of Puppets, Kill'em All, Ride the Lightning, Black album and And Justice For All

New stuff sucks, but they still rock live
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:15:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Master of Puppets.

Does it get any better than Leper Mesiah or The Thing That Should Not Be?



I prefer Mater of Puppets, Battery and Sanitarium. In that order.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:22:37 PM EST
...And Justice
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:28:17 PM EST
incidentally, everything since and including the black album has been pure shit.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:33:57 PM EST
Ride the lightning, Master of puppets a close second. That was when they were still full of piss & vinegar, and defined the whole speed metal genre. First time I heard the classical intro segue into mayhem on "Fight Fire With Fire, I hated it. Thought, "what the hell is this crazy shit?" Of course it eventually grew on me like a particularly nasty fungus to become one of my all time favorite albums.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:33:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:
... And Justice For All will always be my favorite. I just wish they had mixed in more bottom end when they mastered it. That fact alone is the main reason why the black album that came out after it was so bass heavy.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...



I have to agree here. Justice comes out so flat on the drums. Like Lars is pounding on card board boxes. Great album. Would be real sweet if the remixed and rereleased it.

I don't think Cliff Burtons influance was declining at all. Look at the stark differences between Justice and the Black Album. Gone are the instrumentals. Gone are the epic songs that you don't want to end. It was obvious that Cliff's Classical background heavily influanced Metallica's work when he was alive. I always thought of Metallica as Classical Heavy Metal.

It's pretty bad when a collection of covers that is Garage Inc blows away their post Black Album work. Re-Load should never have been released. It was garbage. St Anger is a step in the right direction except for the fact that it sounds like total crap. Did they record it on a cassette tape? They said they wanted to get back to theri roots. Back to basics. Well they should have done it with their music, not their recording equipment.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:36:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By lagadelphia:
I don't think Cliff Burtons influance was declining at all. Look at the stark differences between Justice and the Black Album. Gone are the instrumentals. Gone are the epic songs that you don't want to end. It was obvious that Cliff's Classical background heavily influanced Metallica's work when he was alive. I always thought of Metallica as Classical Heavy Metal.



Actually IIRC Kirk has the classical training and background.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:51:02 PM EST
Today my favorite is Master of Puppets, wednesdays are for And Justice for All...
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:52:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2004 3:52:57 PM EST by DrMark]
1. Tie: Master of Puppets & Ride the Lightning

3. Tie: Kill Em All & ...and Justice for All

Their cover tunes are great too.

I've seen them many times between 1986 and this year, and have chatted with James and Jason. While their post 1990 studio stuff isn't as good as the older stuff, they are still great live.

Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:56:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By BB:
...and Justice for All



Absolutely the best album, ever, period, end of discussion.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 3:58:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:

Actually IIRC Kirk has the classical training and background.



He studied under Joe Satriani, though you'd never know it from his playing. Not sure about any classical training.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 4:06:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/21/2004 4:17:31 PM EST by DWFAN]
First of all, it is Garage Days Re-revisited.

1. Kill em' All- with blitzkrieg and Am I Evil

2. Master of Puppets-

C'mon boys, DISPOSABLE HEROES!!! "Left to die with only friend, alone I clench my gun"

3. Justice- Blackened Rocks

4. Ride the Lightning- For Whom The Bell Tolls

5. Garage Days Re-Revisited - Green Hell, Last Caress- Crash Course Classic Covers.

6. Metallica- Played out to the ends of the Earth

7. All the rest of the drivel that they have put out since.
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 4:06:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Troop122:

Originally Posted By BB:
...and Justice for All



Absolutely the best album, ever, period, end of discussion.



+1. Best metal CD of all time. Nothing is as complex and beautiful, or as hard to play live.....
Link Posted: 9/21/2004 4:19:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
BLACK ALBUM




+1
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