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Posted: 4/24/2013 4:11:20 PM EDT
Some corporate dickhead is coming to work on Friday, and management is asking that we wear business casual. Can I get away with *NICE* dark jeans and a white button up shirt?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:13:10 PM EDT
Wear Khakis.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:13:48 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:


Wear Khakis.





I like being obtuse.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:14:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By poink:

Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Wear Khakis.


I like being obtuse.
 


Do you like being unemployed?

Jeans <> Business Casual

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:14:44 PM EDT
Business casual does not include jeans or t-shirts.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:15:35 PM EDT



Originally Posted By LE6920:


Business casual does not include jeans or t-shirts.


These aren't fucking Wranglers.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:15:58 PM EDT
We wear business casual at work.

But, we get to wear jeans this Friday.



Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:16:25 PM EDT
Khakis or an updated resume.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:17:01 PM EDT
No jeans, go with khakis.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:17:07 PM EDT
I wear business casual everyday. Jeans are not part of business casual.
 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:17:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Wear Khakis.



Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:18:11 PM EDT
No. Kahkis at the min. Wear dark slacks and a button down. No tie. Clean shoes that go with your belt.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:20:16 PM EDT



Originally Posted By dupemaster:


No. Kahkis at the min. Wear dark slacks and a button down. No tie. Clean shoes that go with your belt.


Ugh...this is one of the many reasons I do not work at the corporate mothership - our relaxed dress code.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:21:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By poink:

Originally Posted By dupemaster:
No. Kahkis at the min. Wear dark slacks and a button down. No tie. Clean shoes that go with your belt.

Ugh...this is one of the many reasons I do not work at the corporate mothership - our relaxed dress code.
 


Business casual IS relaxed.

Try wearing a damn tie or even a suit every day.



Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:23:13 PM EDT
No.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:24:32 PM EDT
Not in my market.





Your market/company may vary.  What does your middle management wear on business casual days?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:24:39 PM EDT
By its very nature, it is not possible to fashion ANYTHING from denim that would be considered appropriate for business. Now, if you are meeting at the local bar or selling tools, it may be passable, but do not fool yourself into thinking it would be acceptable elsewhere.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:24:42 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:



Originally Posted By poink:




Originally Posted By dupemaster:

No. Kahkis at the min. Wear dark slacks and a button down. No tie. Clean shoes that go with your belt.


Ugh...this is one of the many reasons I do not work at the corporate mothership - our relaxed dress code.

 




Business casual IS relaxed.



Try wearing a damn tie or even a suit every day.









Been there



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:25:51 PM EDT
Jeans and business do not go together.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:27:27 PM EDT
Wiki-Business Casual

Maybe fridays?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:27:51 PM EDT
Yay, another Poink "Ask advice, and then argue with the responses I get" thread!
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:27:57 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Foyt20:


Wiki-Business Casual



Maybe fridays?


But this is my Friday



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:28:10 PM EDT
We have business casual everyday, jeans is not part of it.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:28:15 PM EDT
Here's my complex, slightly metrosexual answer: If the suit coming in is a jeans guy (would recognize something like Sevens or Diesels for instance) then I'd think they were fine as long as they were dark and not aged, and you wore a nice shirt and well maintained leather shoes. If he isn't a jeans guy (he doesn't realize there are jeans out there that cost more than $30) then I would DEFINITELY not wear jeans, even if they are "nice." How you would know whether or not he is a jeans guy is beyond me if you've never met the dude or spent time with him off the clock.

This is an answer from a 35 year old Area Sales Manager for a Fortune 500 Company, and it's worth what you paid for it.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:28:32 PM EDT
jeans have never been included in business casual at any job I've had nor the client sites I've been to
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:28:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By poink:
Some corporate dickhead is coming to work on Friday, and management is asking that we wear business casual. Can I get away with *NICE* dark jeans and a white button up shirt?


My work has no dress code except when meeting with clients, when business casual up to formal is required depending on the client. Jeans are not business casual. Not even if they cost $200.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:29:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By poink:

Originally Posted By Foyt20:
Wiki-Business Casual

Maybe fridays?

But this is my Friday
 



are you Steve Jobs or the owner of the company?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:30:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:38:13 PM EDT by DXR]
Casual Fridays



EDIT Trying to link video file
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:31:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:32:27 PM EDT by LAKELLY]
Originally Posted By CWO:
Not in my market.


Your market/company may vary.  What does your middle management wear on business casual days?


This is a good question. This will give you an idea of what theyfeel comfortable with their definition of Business casual is.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:31:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LAKELLY:
Here's my complex, slightly metrosexual answer: If the suit coming in is a jeans guy (would recognize something like Sevens or Diesels for instance) then I'd think they were fine as long as they were dark and not aged, and you wore a nice shirt and well maintained leather shoes. If he isn't a jeans guy (he doesn't realize there are jeans out there that cost more than $30) then I would DEFINITELY not wear jeans, even if they are "nice." How you would know whether or not he is a jeans guy is beyond me if you've never met the dude or spent time with him off the clock.

This is an answer from a 35 year old Area Sales Manager for a Fortune 500 Company, and it's worth what you paid for it.  


Even if the suit is a "jeans guy", local management said BUSINESS CASUAL.

The suit will not be doing the firing...or the remembering.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:31:19 PM EDT


Grown men should not wear jeans unless they are doing manual labor or riding a horse.



Jeans as a staple are for women and kids.



...and fuck no.  Business casual most certainly does not include any flavor of jean unless maybe your office is in Saskatchewan.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:32:17 PM EDT

Wore my best suit on a lark on Monday this week. Kicked ass on a bunch of stuff. No one noticed the work I did.
VP saw me grabbing coffee and spent 20 minutes standing around talking suits.

Lesson: I can fuck around all day and no one cares. Under dress and I am fucked.



No jeans.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:33:29 PM EDT
The word "Nice" and "Jeans" do not go together in the context of business casual.

Unless it's your coworkers saying "Nice jeans" in a sarcastic tone.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:33:45 PM EDT
Business casual?  Boxer briefs and a sleeved tee.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:34:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By poink:

Originally Posted By LE6920:
Business casual does not include jeans or t-shirts.

These aren't fucking Wranglers.
 


Hipster, skinny jeans?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:34:22 PM EDT
I wish.

I hate having to wear biz casual.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:34:44 PM EDT
Depends on your company. At my place of work you could get away with a "nice" pair of jeans and a button down shirt. My day to day wear is jeans and a t shirt. I'd quit if they told us suit and tie was the new required wear.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:36:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mountain_Snipe:
Jeans and business do not go together.


I work in IT, wear jeans everyday.  Having just been promoted for the 5th time in 16 years at a large university... they apparently don't have a problem with it.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:36:07 PM EDT
no jeans no matter what the color.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:36:12 PM EDT
Khakis or slacks. Nice business related shoes, button down shirt, no tie.

No jeans.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:36:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:37:33 PM EDT by akrado]





Originally Posted By XD_Fan:



I wear business casual everyday. Jeans are not part of business casual.  
+1




No jeans, black, blue, white, acid-wash.





 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:36:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:37:16 PM EDT by Bustyrucket]
Depends on where you are conducting business.
In Texas? Jeans, boots, and a cowboy hat are acceptable.
In a New England state? Shirt, tie, and slacks
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:37:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:40:09 PM EDT by Winn]

It is ALWAYS much better to error on the side of being a little "over" dressed rather than under-dressed.


ETA: Especially given the fact that the words 'corporate' and 'management' were anywhere to be found in your OP.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:38:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:

Grown men should not wear jeans unless they are doing manual labor or riding a horse.

Jeans as a staple are for women and kids.

...and fuck no.  Business casual most certainly does not include any flavor of jean unless maybe your office is in Saskatchewan.  


Said the Brooks Brothers salesman...
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:38:53 PM EDT
wool pants, shirt, jacket, nice leather shoes, no tie
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:38:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SevenMaryThree:

Grown men should not wear jeans unless they are doing manual labor or riding a horse.

Jeans as a staple are for women and kids.

...and fuck no.  Business casual most certainly does not include any flavor of jean unless maybe your office is in Saskatchewan.  




Slacks as a staple are for limp wristed, office drones that call AAA for a flat.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:39:03 PM EDT
To answer the OP's question:  No
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:40:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Wear Khakis.



Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:40:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 4:41:46 PM EDT by PugglePod9000]
Originally Posted By LeeA:
Originally Posted By Mountain_Snipe:
Jeans and business do not go together.


I work in IT, wear jeans everyday.  Having just been promoted for the 5th time in 16 years at a large university... they apparently don't have a problem with it.


It really depends on how anal retentive the buisness you are in is.

Like you, I wear jeans a lot.
It's never an issue.
What really matters is what I do.  

If I found I was being "dinged" for clothing I would simply find someplace else who didn't care...  

(I work for a big corporation and deal with management and corporate folks about 50% of the time)
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:42:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LeeA:
Originally Posted By Mountain_Snipe:
Jeans and business do not go together.


I work in IT, wear jeans everyday.  Having just been promoted for the 5th time in 16 years at a large university... they apparently don't have a problem with it.


OP is talking about the real wold, not academia.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:42:43 PM EDT
nope they are not.
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