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Posted: 8/14/2011 6:11:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 6:32:26 AM EDT by ttushooter]
Fairly simple poll.

you currently own or have you ever owned any NFA items (suppressors, SBR, SBS, AOW, MG... etc)

Or up to this point, have you never owned one.


I am among the never owned at least so far.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:15:28 AM EDT
Hit then bump, please.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:18:23 AM EDT
Own a few, will own many more.



CA94 SBR (just finished last week)
Gemtech Multimount
SilencerCo Sparrow
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:28:33 AM EDT
I own.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:28:42 AM EDT
one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower? i need NFA for dummies book haha.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:29:10 AM EDT
I have an irrational hate for paperwork.

One day, I might jump in. The county I currently live in has no LE willing to sign off on the forms. That just means more money and paperwork.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:29:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:
one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower? i need NFA for dummies book haha.


You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:33:01 AM EDT
Yep


Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:35:14 AM EDT
[/quote]

You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.[/quote]


cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:35:32 AM EDT
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:37:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 6:38:12 AM EDT by andrasik]
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:


You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.
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cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.
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Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Originally Posted By M3A1:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.
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If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:40:52 AM EDT
Plan on it, just don't have the cash to dive into NFA projects. Most of my bucket list is SBRs and Cans.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:47:45 AM EDT
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:49:33 AM EDT
I live in an 'un-free' state. So no fun toys for me...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:54:15 AM EDT
Several
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:54:23 AM EDT






Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:01:10 AM EDT
Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.



Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:03:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mwarnick1:
Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:07:04 AM EDT
Never. Would like to get a few suppressors, eventually.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:12:43 AM EDT
Yep.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:12:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mi650:
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:14:48 AM EDT
Never have bothered. Would like to get a suppressor eventually, but it isn't much of a priority.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:23:48 AM EDT
Own several SBRs and have the paperwork for my cans in process now.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:29:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ScurvyPete:
Originally Posted By mi650:
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Great for close quarters combat.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:30:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mwarnick1:
Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds?

Is the cannon actually an NFA device?

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:31:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ScurvyPete:
Originally Posted By mi650:
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.
They are the only short things that chicks dig!

Own.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:33:49 AM EDT
Haven't had the money to part with.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:43:32 AM EDT
Waiting a little while longer till I get retired then a couple of cans one 5.56 and one 9mm.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:54:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By mwarnick1:
Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds?

Is the cannon actually an NFA device?



Rounds would only be DDs themselves if they contained at least a certain amount of explosive. If you just run straight projectiles, they're just ammo. The cannon would be a large-bore DD.

Same applies to 40mm launchers (and 37mm if you want to launch things other than flares).
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:57:19 AM EDT
No, but I want a SBR and a can something fierce.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:57:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ScurvyPete:
Originally Posted By mi650:
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Much, much handier. I really like the way my 11.5" handles and balances versus a 16". (I'm actually considering papering and cutting down my remaining 16".) Having a short barrel also means that when you put a can on it, you don't end up with something that's really long.

SBSes are a little less generally-useful unless you are talking about a Saiga, since reducing a conventional shotgun's barrel also reduces magazine capacity.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:03:52 AM EDT
If you don't have them yet you're missing out. Non-NFA shooting is boring.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:09:18 AM EDT
Someday...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:12:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mwarnick1:
Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


What am I looking at here?

Any vids?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:12:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By andrasik:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:


You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.



cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Originally Posted By M3A1:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.[/quote]

Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:15:15 AM EDT
1 SBR.

Danny
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:16:20 AM EDT
<––––––- Would love to own one but lives in a Socialist Utopian State where the Totalitarian government prohibits private ownership of same.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M3A1:
Originally Posted By andrasik:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:


You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.



cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Originally Posted By M3A1:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.


Thanks!
[/quote]
if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know. not a big deal though, just send them a letter.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:46 AM EDT
Suppressed M11/9.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:56 AM EDT
quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:32:41 AM EDT
On my list is a suppressed SBR, a suppressed .22 and a few pistol cans. I don't even have an AR yet.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:34:06 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:34:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ScurvyPete:
Originally Posted By mi650:
I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Shooting from a bench, nothing. If you're doing any sort of reactive shooting they're the tits due to manueverability, especially if you strap a can off of it.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:27 AM EDT
What am I looking at here?

Any vids?


30mm GAU-8 single shot made to look like a US 37mm AT gun. More info in the DD forum and video at this link:

30mm

Thanks for the interest,

Matt
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By _Matt_:

Originally Posted By M3A1:
Originally Posted By andrasik:
Originally Posted By GAshooter11:


You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.



cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Originally Posted By M3A1:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.


Thanks!

if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know. not a big deal though, just send them a letter.
[/quote]

Sure - they want to know but there is no requirement if it's a permanent address change in state to notify the ATF.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:36:43 AM EDT
Looks like a US 37mm M3 anti-tank cannon re-barreled to 30mm.


My devious ploy to make it look like a 37mm US gun has worked!
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:37:00 AM EDT


Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:40:13 AM EDT
Bump. Currently Own.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:49:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 8:50:07 AM EDT by snakeshooter1]
Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By snakeshooter1:
quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?

Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed.

thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:56:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By snakeshooter1:
Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By snakeshooter1:
quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?

Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed.

thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA



There's some nuances there that you need to be aware of.

If the conversion is permanent - ie if it's something like a registered receiver M16 - then you're fine no matter what.

If the conversion is not permanent - ie a RDIAS or an HK registered sear - then the gun is fine as an SBR so long as the conversion device is in the gun thus making it a machinegun. If you swap that conversion device to another host (as is common with these devices) then you will need to revert the previous host to Title I status.
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