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Posted: 8/14/2011 6:11:28 AM EDT
Fairly simple poll.

you currently own or have you ever owned any NFA items (suppressors, SBR, SBS, AOW, MG... etc)

Or up to this point, have you never owned one.


I am among the never owned at least so far.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:15:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Hit then bump, please.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:18:23 AM EDT
[#2]
Own a few, will own many more.



CA94 SBR (just finished last week)
Gemtech Multimount
SilencerCo Sparrow
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:28:33 AM EDT
[#3]
I own.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:28:42 AM EDT
[#4]
one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower?  i need NFA for dummies book haha.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:29:10 AM EDT
[#5]
I have an irrational hate for paperwork.



One day, I might jump in. The county I currently live in has no LE willing to sign off on the forms. That just means more money and paperwork.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:29:38 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower?  i need NFA for dummies book haha.


You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:33:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Yep





Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:35:14 AM EDT
[#8]
[/quote]

You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.[/quote]


cool. thank you for the clarification.  guess its time to start a new project.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:35:32 AM EDT
[#9]
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:37:54 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:


You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.
View Quote



cool. thank you for the clarification.  guess its time to start a new project.
View Quote


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Quoted:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.
View Quote


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:40:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Plan on it, just don't have the cash to dive into NFA projects. Most of my bucket list is SBRs and Cans.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:47:45 AM EDT
[#12]
I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:49:33 AM EDT
[#13]
I live in an 'un-free' state.  So no fun toys for me...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:54:15 AM EDT
[#14]
Several
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:54:23 AM EDT
[#15]






Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:01:10 AM EDT
[#16]
Yep.  Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.



Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:03:37 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


Yep.  Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.



http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg







 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:07:04 AM EDT
[#18]
Never. Would like to get a few suppressors, eventually.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:12:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Yep.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:12:44 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:14:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Never have bothered. Would like to get a suppressor eventually, but it isn't much of a priority.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:23:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Own several SBRs and have the paperwork for my cans in process now.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:29:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Great for close quarters combat.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:30:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Yep.  Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds?

Is the cannon actually an NFA device?

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:31:57 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  



Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.



For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.




This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.
They are the only short things that chicks dig!



Own.





 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:33:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Haven't had the money to part with.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:43:32 AM EDT
[#27]
Waiting a little while longer till I get retired then a couple of cans one 5.56 and one 9mm.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:54:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Yep.  Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds?

Is the cannon actually an NFA device?



Rounds would only be DDs themselves if they contained at least a certain amount of explosive. If you just run straight projectiles, they're just ammo. The cannon would be a large-bore DD.

Same applies to 40mm launchers (and 37mm if you want to launch things other than flares).
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:57:19 AM EDT
[#29]
No, but I want a SBR and a can something fierce.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:57:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Much, much handier. I really like the way my 11.5" handles and balances versus a 16". (I'm actually considering papering and cutting down my remaining 16".) Having a short barrel also means that when you put a can on it, you don't end up with something that's really long.

SBSes are a little less generally-useful unless you are talking about a Saiga, since reducing a conventional shotgun's barrel also reduces magazine capacity.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:03:52 AM EDT
[#31]
If you don't have them yet you're missing out. Non-NFA shooting is boring.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:09:18 AM EDT
[#32]
Someday...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:12:35 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Yep.  Just finished the build and shot it for the first time.

http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg


What am I looking at here?

Any vids?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:12:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:


You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.



cool. thank you for the clarification.  guess its time to start a new project.


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Quoted:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.[/quote]

Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:15:15 AM EDT
[#35]
1 SBR.

Danny
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:16:20 AM EDT
[#36]
<––––––-  Would love to own one but lives in a Socialist Utopian State where the Totalitarian government prohibits private ownership of same.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:13 AM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:





You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.







cool. thank you for the clarification.  guess its time to start a new project.





Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!




Quoted:

I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.




If you move in state nothing is required.



If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.



You can find a copy here.




Thanks!

[/quote]

if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know.  not a big deal though, just send them a letter.



 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:46 AM EDT
[#38]
Suppressed M11/9.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:17:56 AM EDT
[#39]
quick question.  If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:32:41 AM EDT
[#40]
On my list is a suppressed SBR, a suppressed .22 and a few pistol cans. I don't even have an AR yet.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:34:06 AM EDT
[#41]
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:34:44 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I want a couple suppressors.  They're a no-go in MI.  

Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any.

For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me.


This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel.


Shooting from a bench, nothing. If you're doing any sort of reactive shooting they're the tits due to manueverability, especially if you strap a can off of it.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:27 AM EDT
[#43]
What am I looking at here?

Any vids?


30mm GAU-8 single shot made to look like a US 37mm AT gun.  More info in the DD forum and video at this link:

30mm

Thanks for the interest,

Matt
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:33 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


You only pay for the lower on an AR.  It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.



cool. thank you for the clarification.  guess its time to start a new project.


Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it!

Quoted:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.


If you move in state nothing is required.

If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate.

You can find a copy here.


Thanks!

if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know.  not a big deal though, just send them a letter.
 [/quote]

Sure - they want to know but there is no requirement if it's a permanent address change in state to notify the ATF.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:35:33 AM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:36:43 AM EDT
[#46]
Looks like a US 37mm M3 anti-tank cannon re-barreled to 30mm.  


My devious ploy to make it look like a 37mm US gun has worked!  
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:37:00 AM EDT
[#47]


Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:40:13 AM EDT
[#48]
Bump.  Currently Own.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:49:27 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Quoted:
quick question.  If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?

Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed.

 
thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:56:43 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
quick question.  If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?

Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed.

 
thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA



There's some nuances there that you need to be aware of.

If the conversion is permanent - ie if it's something like a registered receiver M16 - then you're fine no matter what.

If the conversion is not permanent - ie a RDIAS or an HK registered sear - then the gun is fine as an SBR so long as the conversion device is in the gun thus making it a machinegun.  If you swap that conversion device to another host (as is common with these devices) then you will need to revert the previous host to Title I status.
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