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Posted: 8/14/2011 6:11:28 AM EDT
Fairly simple poll.
you currently own or have you ever owned any NFA items (suppressors, SBR, SBS, AOW, MG... etc) Or up to this point, have you never owned one. I am among the never owned at least so far. |
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one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower? i need NFA for dummies book haha.
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I have an irrational hate for paperwork.
One day, I might jump in. The county I currently live in has no LE willing to sign off on the forms. That just means more money and paperwork.
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one day ide like to buid an SBR. been reading up on the whole process in the armory section. but i do have a *newb question though. if im building an SBR would i have to pay the 200$ tax on the upper and lower? or just the registered lower? i need NFA for dummies book haha. You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well. |
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You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well.[/quote] cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project. |
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I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff.
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You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well. View Quote cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.
View Quote Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it! Quoted:
I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff. View Quote If you move in state nothing is required. If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate. You can find a copy here. |
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Plan on it, just don't have the cash to dive into NFA projects. Most of my bucket list is SBRs and Cans.
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I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI.
Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. |
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Quoted: Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time. http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg |
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I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI. Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel. |
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Never have bothered. Would like to get a suppressor eventually, but it isn't much of a priority.
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Own several SBRs and have the paperwork for my cans in process now.
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I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI. Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel. Great for close quarters combat. |
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Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time. http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds? Is the cannon actually an NFA device? |
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Quoted: They are the only short things that chicks dig!Quoted: I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI. Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel. Own. |
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Waiting a little while longer till I get retired then a couple of cans one 5.56 and one 9mm.
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Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time. http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg Doesn't each round require a tax stamp or are those just practice rounds? Is the cannon actually an NFA device? Rounds would only be DDs themselves if they contained at least a certain amount of explosive. If you just run straight projectiles, they're just ammo. The cannon would be a large-bore DD. Same applies to 40mm launchers (and 37mm if you want to launch things other than flares). |
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I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI. Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel. Much, much handier. I really like the way my 11.5" handles and balances versus a 16". (I'm actually considering papering and cutting down my remaining 16".) Having a short barrel also means that when you put a can on it, you don't end up with something that's really long. SBSes are a little less generally-useful unless you are talking about a Saiga, since reducing a conventional shotgun's barrel also reduces magazine capacity. |
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If you don't have them yet you're missing out. Non-NFA shooting is boring.
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Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time. http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg What am I looking at here? Any vids? |
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You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well. cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.
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I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff. If you move in state nothing is required. If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate. You can find a copy here.[/quote] Thanks! |
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<––––––- Would love to own one but lives in a Socialist Utopian State where the Totalitarian government prohibits private ownership of same.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well. cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project. Shoot me an IM if you have any questions about it! Quoted: I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff. If you move in state nothing is required. If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate. You can find a copy here. Thanks! [/quote] if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know. not a big deal though, just send them a letter. |
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quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR?
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On my list is a suppressed SBR, a suppressed .22 and a few pistol cans. I don't even have an AR yet.
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Quoted: Quoted: Yep. Just finished the build and shot it for the first time. http://i54.tinypic.com/wml5k0.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/xo30jl.jpg What am I looking at here? Any vids? Looks like a US 37mm M3 anti-tank cannon re-barreled to 30mm. |
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I want a couple suppressors. They're a no-go in MI. Happy switches are cool, but I don't have any. For some reason SBR's/SBS's don't interest me. This. Never understood what was so great about a short barrel. Shooting from a bench, nothing. If you're doing any sort of reactive shooting they're the tits due to manueverability, especially if you strap a can off of it. |
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What am I looking at here?
Any vids? 30mm GAU-8 single shot made to look like a US 37mm AT gun. More info in the DD forum and video at this link: 30mm Thanks for the interest, Matt |
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You only pay for the lower on an AR. It's a one-time thing for that AR as well. cool. thank you for the clarification. guess its time to start a new project.
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I'd like to once I get a more permanent address. I don't know what is required if you move with C3 stuff. If you move in state nothing is required. If you move out of state you fill out a simple 5320.20 - the same form that's used for temporarily transporting NFA items other than silencers and AOWs interstate. You can find a copy here. Thanks! if you change your permanent address, even if in same state, ATF wants to know. not a big deal though, just send them a letter. [/quote] Sure - they want to know but there is no requirement if it's a permanent address change in state to notify the ATF. |
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Quoted: quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR? Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed. |
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Looks like a US 37mm M3 anti-tank cannon re-barreled to 30mm.
My devious ploy to make it look like a 37mm US gun has worked! |
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thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA
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quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR? Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed. |
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thank you ETA so I don't need 2 stamps then just the one for the FA
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quick question. If you live in a state that doesn't alow SBR's but does allow Full Auto can you run a full auto that is also an SBR? Machine gun status trumps all - no SBR registration needed. There's some nuances there that you need to be aware of. If the conversion is permanent - ie if it's something like a registered receiver M16 - then you're fine no matter what. If the conversion is not permanent - ie a RDIAS or an HK registered sear - then the gun is fine as an SBR so long as the conversion device is in the gun thus making it a machinegun. If you swap that conversion device to another host (as is common with these devices) then you will need to revert the previous host to Title I status. |
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