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Posted: 7/20/2008 4:16:13 PM EDT
I have a guy sends me an im and a bunch of emails wanting to meet me for a ftf trade.

I ask him 3 times where he lives and he finally tells me, KY. I'm in TN.

I tell him we will have to ship to each others ffl, no reply back.

He's a member here, but no posts in the 2 years I looked in the archive server.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:17:03 PM EDT
atf
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:18:00 PM EDT
ITS A TARP!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:18:06 PM EDT
Did he ask you several times if you were a police officer? Did he offer to pay in cash with no paperwork and no questions asked?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:18:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 4:22:12 PM EDT by akethan]
More EE drama

Screen name?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:18:54 PM EDT
Make sure its not monopoly money.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:18:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:19:01 PM EDT
This is the ATF you have nothing to worry about. All your gun are belong to us.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:19:26 PM EDT
Smells like a sting.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:19:53 PM EDT
Don't pass the smell test,huh?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:20:21 PM EDT
Masterfully baited.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:20:52 PM EDT
No amount of $ is worth loosing your rights.
Ignore him if he's not going to play by the rules.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:21:13 PM EDT
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:22:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:23:39 PM EDT
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:23:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


With rifles, I do believe.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:24:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:26:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:27:21 PM EDT
Well I'll just assume ignorance on his side

As for myself, I'll walk the straight and narrow.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:27:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473


If you can buy from an FFL from neighboring states, why can you not buy from a private citizen? I've never seen such a law, only that you can't do it with handguns.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:28:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.


+1 with pics or MS paint!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:29:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.

Best idea I've heard so far.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:32:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:33:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Have gun, will travel. Cash.


Now you, I might trust......nah

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:35:09 PM EDT
So whatever became of the messed up/returned AK deal?

Any connection?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:36:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
So whatever became of the messed up/returned AK deal?

Any connection?


Could be, I got my rifle back.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:39:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
So whatever became of the messed up/returned AK deal?

Any connection?


Could be, I got my rifle back.



Good for you.....I lost track of the thread while I was on the road.

I know youll play it safe Clean'.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:40:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:40:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473


If you can buy from an FFL from neighboring states, why can you not buy from a private citizen? I've never seen such a law, only that you can't do it with handguns.


You better read the law again. FTF across state lines is illegal.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:41:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Riotgun:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473


If you can buy from an FFL from neighboring states, why can you not buy from a private citizen? I've never seen such a law, only that you can't do it with handguns.


You better read the law again. FTF across state lines is illegal.


B. UNLICENSED PERSONS


(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]


A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]



(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]



(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State? [Back]


A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:41:58 PM EDT
After the AK deal, the ATF is trusting you, but verifying
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:42:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473


If you can buy from an FFL from neighboring states, why can you not buy from a private citizen? I've never seen such a law, only that you can't do it with handguns.


Federal law. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. You can buy rifles (or shotguns) from FFL's of neighboring states but handguns must be shipped to an FFL in your state. Rifles can't be bought in neighboring states from non-FFL's.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 4:44:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.


[ATF1] Bert!?!.........[ATF2]Ernie!?!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:31:11 PM EDT
So what if I live in one state 6-months and another for 6 months? which one is my home state?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:33:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


With rifles, I do believe.




That's what I thought, but I was recently told "No" by someone on EE.

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:41:34 PM EDT
You've sure been getting your share of idiots lately.



HH
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:59:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mech2007:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


With rifles, I do believe.




That's what I thought, but I was recently told "No" by someone on EE.



No you can't.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:01:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By LtDirector:

Originally Posted By akethan:

Originally Posted By JedYonkers:
Can't you do a ftf sale with a boardering state or some such?


No


I bought a rifle in Indiana from an FFL when I live in Ohio. Was this illegal?


Not with a 4473


If you can buy from an FFL from neighboring states, why can you not buy from a private citizen? I've never seen such a law, only that you can't do it with handguns.


Federal law. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. You can buy rifles (or shotguns) from FFL's of neighboring states but handguns must be shipped to an FFL in your state. Rifles can't be bought in neighboring states from non-FFL's.


Actually, you can buy a long gun anywhere in the country from an FFL as long as it is legal in your home state.

As to the original subject, I had a guy in TN try to get me to do a FTF with him and when I said no, I never heard from him again.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:32:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.


I like this idear!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:44:41 PM EDT
Correct. You CAN NOT do a FTF with someone from another state PEROID. Doesn't matter what kind of gun it is .

I was selling a weapon on GB. Had a guy want to do a FTF with me. He lived in a Indiana, me in Illinois.

I informed him that it would be a fellony to do so, and a few hunderd more dollars wasn't worth a trip to jail. I said I could ship to a FFL in his state. He never got back to me.her

I've always wondered if these were setups, or just dumb/uninformed people? As far as buying a long gun . You can buy one from a dealer anywhere in the country,if you are in their shop.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:53:53 PM EDT
Hmmm....I just had a guy from CA IM me asking if I would ship my 75 rd. drum I have for sale to him because he "likes converting them to 10 rounders".

Seemed a little fishy.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:55:39 PM EDT
Bait back, have him send you a picture of himself holding a sign that says "I'm not ATF".
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:58:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Masterfully baited.



So hes a Masterbaiter?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:58:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WI57:

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.


+1 with pics or MS paint!!!


As funny as that MIGHT be... never invite the man into your life.
Matt
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:03:29 PM EDT
Just like when your in a traffic incident, if the other party says " hey man lets not call the cops" or " hey i don't like all the mess with insurance companies" then there is something shady going on.


So when a guys says " hey man lets keep the gun stores out of it " They probably can't purchase a gun legally.

I sold a gun via an add in the newspaper, my add clearly stated that the transaction would be done at the police station. I had guys ask me if their wife could buy it etc. I met one guy at the parking lot of the LEA, I said I needed a copy of his ID to turn into the LEA and he got out of there so fast the smoke from his tires could be seen a block away.

All ways do your best to make sure you sell to a responsible person. The person I finally sold it to was a middle aged guy who had no problems with meeting at a LEA and also had a photo copy of his ID.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:04:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.


That is damn funny!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:11:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
What you do is contact your local ATF branch.

Set up a sting with them.

Then when the guy shows up to deal you can have one ATF branch arresting another ATF branch.

Hilarity will ensue.




Just to make sure it goes as plan, I'd call the state police. They will go through with a arrest regardless.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:15:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a guy sends me an im and a bunch of emails wanting to meet me for a ftf trade.

I ask him 3 times where he lives and he finally tells me, KY. I'm in TN.

I tell him we will have to ship to each others ffl, no reply back.

He's a member here, but no posts in the 2 years I looked in the archive server.


I wonder how many accounts around here actually belong to the alphabet boys?? I'm sure there are even a few team accounts just to snoop. Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to my foil lined bunker.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:22:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spectre556:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a guy sends me an im and a bunch of emails wanting to meet me for a ftf trade.

I ask him 3 times where he lives and he finally tells me, KY. I'm in TN.

I tell him we will have to ship to each others ffl, no reply back.

He's a member here, but no posts in the 2 years I looked in the archive server.


I wonder how many accounts around here actually belong to the alphabet boys?? I'm sure there are even a few team accounts just to snoop. Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to my foil lined bunker.


Note to self: Don't trust spectre556. He's one of them.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:40:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 70satvert:

Originally Posted By spectre556:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a guy sends me an im and a bunch of emails wanting to meet me for a ftf trade.

I ask him 3 times where he lives and he finally tells me, KY. I'm in TN.

I tell him we will have to ship to each others ffl, no reply back.

He's a member here, but no posts in the 2 years I looked in the archive server.


I wonder how many accounts around here actually belong to the alphabet boys?? I'm sure there are even a few team accounts just to snoop. Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to my foil lined bunker.


Note to self: Don't trust spectre556. He's one of them.


You cut me Vert, you cut me deep.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:42:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spectre556:

Originally Posted By 70satvert:

Originally Posted By spectre556:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I have a guy sends me an im and a bunch of emails wanting to meet me for a ftf trade.

I ask him 3 times where he lives and he finally tells me, KY. I'm in TN.

I tell him we will have to ship to each others ffl, no reply back.

He's a member here, but no posts in the 2 years I looked in the archive server.


I wonder how many accounts around here actually belong to the alphabet boys?? I'm sure there are even a few team accounts just to snoop. Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to my foil lined bunker.


Note to self: Don't trust spectre556. He's one of them.


You cut me Vert, you cut me deep.


Just keepin the tinfoil tight man.
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