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Posted: 1/17/2015 3:33:46 AM EST
I was waiting for a light to turn green to make a left turn onto a two lane road. I was the third car in line. light turns green and the first car sit there for what must have been 10 seconds. So i bump my horn a couple of times. The guy in the second car gives me the single finger salute and I salute back. the first car decide its time to move. car 2 turns into the left lane while i turn into the right and we are both stopped by traffic. he ends up a couple of cars behind and then i see him turn into my lane and box me in.. Then the notice him putting his hands up in the WTF mode. Then i see him start opening his car door. By instinct i start reaching for my Glock on my hip in a IWB while looking in the mirror for a weapon in his hand. my car is one of those that you can see the driver movement and i think he saw me reaching for my hip and as as soon as he saw that he jumped back into his car.

I had nowhere to go as my car was blocked in by traffic or i would have fled to deescalate the situation. I would have and did stay in my car. If he came up unarmed, i would have tried to desaulate the situation by either ignoring him or speaking through the window. No way would i go outside or open the door. If he tried to break my glass or get into my car, I would have used deadly force if needed. Cars then started moving and we went our own ways.


this all happened in less than a couple of minutes. what could i have done better in this situation?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:37:36 AM EST
Not returned the one finger salute
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:37:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 3:38:05 AM EST by ricomock]
Double tap
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:38:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 3:38:28 AM EST by 3O8junkie]
Don't fucking flip people off when you are carrying.

You become a pussy and back down from every potential situation.

Shoot if you must.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:38:34 AM EST


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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:39:40 AM EST
You didn't piss on his leg to assert dominance?
Must have pissed down your own then.
Tsk tsk.












Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:39:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ricomock:
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Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're carrying. No matter how deserving.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:40:31 AM EST
SHB



Should have bladed.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:44:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
The guy in the second car gives me the single finger salute and I salute back.
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Stop carrying a gun until you learn to de-escalate
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:44:42 AM EST
If you have to get it on:


Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:47:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
If you have to get it on:

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I drive around with hearing protection in just in case...
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:47:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SixSquared:

Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're NOT carrying. No matter how deserving.
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Originally Posted By SixSquared:
Originally Posted By ricomock:
Not returned the one finger salute

Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're NOT carrying. No matter how deserving.

FIFY.

I avoid it all together though. You never know what kind of day the other guy is having and you don't want to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:53:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

FIFY.

I avoid it all together though. You never know what kind of day the other guy is having and you don't want to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Originally Posted By SixSquared:
Originally Posted By ricomock:
Not returned the one finger salute

Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're NOT carrying. No matter how deserving.

FIFY.

I avoid it all together though. You never know what kind of day the other guy is having and you don't want to be the straw that broke the camel's back.


Good point.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 3:55:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
If you have to get it on:

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/d8/HeatUSP-1.jpg/600px-HeatUSP-1.jpg
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Fuck windshields!!!
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 4:06:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 4:37:36 AM EST by Burnsy]
Edit: You reacted poorly. Middle finger's should have been de-escolated instead of instigated. Family etc.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:13:25 AM EST
make the peace sign.
put that over your mouth.
Stick your tongue out and wave it up and down.
calms them down.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:36:29 AM EST
No middle finger
Tint windows
Try not to unholster until you see a weapon if possible- all situations are different
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:38:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:38:50 AM EST
If someone flips me off, I just wave and smile with a great big grin!
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:46:24 AM EST
Maybe just don't play the silly finger game next time.
You could always do the hands in the air WTF thing.
Guy did sound like a dick, always two sides to a story.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 5:53:27 AM EST
I have had similar situations happen (honk horn a moron not moving and some dill hole who is not the problem gets upset) they start ranting I ask "were you the one holding up traffic?" when they answer "no" I state "well then I wasn't honking at you"..takes a second to register on some mental midgets but they usually figure it out and move on mumbling something
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:11:50 AM EST
If you get that worked up over 10 seconds you may want to reconsider carrying.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:16:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MadMonkey:
Stop carrying a gun until you learn to de-escalate
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Originally Posted By MadMonkey:
Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
The guy in the second car gives me the single finger salute and I salute back.
Stop carrying a gun until you learn to de-escalate


This. Also how short are you OP?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:31:45 AM EST
George?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:33:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 7:20:55 AM EST by FrankDrebin]
Work on your wolf stare. I perfected it. People don't mess with me ever.


Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:35:29 AM EST
Skin it . Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens .
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:36:20 AM EST





Link Posted: 1/17/2015 6:55:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
this all happened in less than a couple of minutes. what could i have done better in this situation?
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As he approached, open your door slightly, contort your body and dangle your penis outside the car. He'll get the idea.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:01:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 7:02:01 AM EST by Banditman]
You were also wrong for honking. it pisses me off when some jackass is behind me honking when someone else is hold up traffic.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:12:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Banditman:
You were also wrong for honking. it pisses me off when some jackass is behind me honking when someone else is hold up traffic.
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It's a pass through honk because you fell down on your duty to honk. You shouldn't take it personally. You should feel like a dick for not taking your honking responsibilities seriously.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:16:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
If someone flips me off, I just wave and smile with a great big grin!
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This
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:22:38 AM EST
That obnoxious arrogant fool was smart enough to save you at least $5,000.00, so be grateful!
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:30:24 AM EST
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Get outta my head!
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:34:27 AM EST
You're not FL, are you?

Gunfights erupt down here from flipping people off, especially from a static situation. I've been down here for 13 years and in that time I've seen some very squirrely shit....situations that could have gone lethal quickly, over very small shit.

If I get filliped off or incur any of the other multitude of daily driving personal insults that flow here I simply keep a straight face and ramp from yellow to orange. From there it's just a matter of tactical OODA. And don't forget, while it doesn't have a holster, your auto is a fine, fine weapon and can have great effect if used correctly. Sort of like the opening ceremonies of a well executed ambush.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:35:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 7:41:24 AM EST by jhl72]
I agree with PDM. You screwed up by flipping the guy off. You should have just ignored him. I took a trip to Dayton Ohio once. Apparently up there the large corn fed white boys like to get drunk and then start fighting around bar closing time. Not saying fights don't happen here but you are much more likely to get shot here IMO than anywhere else and so to me a fight here is more a matter of life and death. Remember the Zimmerman trial? I guess most people know this so our crime rate has plummeted to levels not seen since the early 1960's. An armed society is a polite society.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:40:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SixSquared:


Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're carrying. No matter how deserving.
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Originally Posted By SixSquared:
Originally Posted By ricomock:
Not returned the one finger salute


Yup, don't go flipping people off if you're carrying. No matter how deserving.


Better to live with a little butthurt than to possibly cause a confrontation when carrying. I used to think everyone knew this.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:23:48 AM EST
Can't be escalating like that. You want to take a ride thru the legal system over a 10 second delay?
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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:27:58 AM EST
De-escalate? Fuck that.

For a little changeup, try escalating next time.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:29:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mech2007:


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Ha...You made me look.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:30:40 AM EST
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I'm not trying to stalk you or anything, but that is brilliant.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:31:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 9:35:12 AM EST by Gun_Crank]
Now I'm off to google to look up desaulate.

Google desaulate
see, deescalate



Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:34:12 AM EST
Here, I got you this to help with your rage.

Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:34:32 AM EST
OP - you are a child. Grow up before carrying again.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:35:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 3O8junkie:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
If you have to get it on:

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/d8/HeatUSP-1.jpg/600px-HeatUSP-1.jpg
I drive around with hearing protection in just in case...


Just turn the radio up real loud so you can't hear the gunshots. Rookie.

Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:35:23 AM EST
Relax .... Count to ten ..... And be happy you dont live in brooklyn
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:38:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SeanC:
If you get that worked up over 10 seconds you may want to reconsider carrying.
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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:42:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Gun_Crank:

I'm not trying to stalk you or anything, but that is brilliant.
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Originally Posted By Gun_Crank:

I'm not trying to stalk you or anything, but that is brilliant.



That's what all the stalkers say.



Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:42:51 AM EST
This usually works very well.....

http://youtu.be/IMjnQ1dvlJM


Link Posted: 1/17/2015 9:42:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:


It's a pass through honk because you fell down on your duty to honk. You shouldn't take it personally. You should feel like a dick for not taking your honking responsibilities seriously.
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Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
Originally Posted By Banditman:
You were also wrong for honking. it pisses me off when some jackass is behind me honking when someone else is hold up traffic.


It's a pass through honk because you fell down on your duty to honk. You shouldn't take it personally. You should feel like a dick for not taking your honking responsibilities seriously.


This.
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