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Posted: 10/22/2004 10:14:55 AM EST
...killed with a NON-lethal weapon. (from ABC newscast)

(If'fn it killed her, I guess you could say its lethal)

Its true then - guns don't kill people - bean bags do.

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:17:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:18:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:18:21 AM EST
Dupe, IBTL.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:18:44 AM EST
FC -

Yer missing the point.

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:19:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By ASUsax:
Dupe, IBTL.



You also are missing the point. May I suggest READING!?!?!!?!?!

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:19:57 AM EST
Whew! That's funny alright. I laugh my ass off everytime an innocent girl gets killed. Woohoo! Good one!
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:21:21 AM EST
I think they are called "LESS LETHAL".
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:23:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By markm:
I think they are called "LESS LETHAL".



Yes they had to change the name to Less than Lethal because they can kill and do every so often.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:28:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By markm:
I think they are called "LESS LETHAL".



Yes, THEY do.

But in this case "they" does NOT include ABC News.

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:28:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Whew! That's funny alright. I laugh my ass off everytime an innocent girl gets killed. Woohoo! Good one!



Whatever.

You must be the life of the party.



Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:29:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Whew! That's funny alright. I laugh my ass off everytime an innocent girl gets killed. Woohoo! Good one!



Was not innocent. Was not a girl.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:30:05 AM EST
WAKE UP.

Old news
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 10:31:45 AM EST
+1
IBTL
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:15:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
WAKE UP.

Old news



The NEWS is how ABC charachterized the weapon that killed her- as NON-lethal.

HOW CAN IT BE NON LETHAL WHEN IT KILLS SOMEONE?????

Geez....

Did your momma have to splain to you to pull yer drawers down to take a crap too??? "Momma...momma, I keep crapping my pants...."



Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:24:47 AM EST
Boston Globe page three had a pick of her bloody headed laying on the ground.....sad case...12 gauge beanbag to the eyesocket.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:28:08 AM EST
But if the bottle that was thrown at the officer, causing all of this, had knocked him from his horse and he had died, somebody would have been arrested for murder.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:36:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
But if the bottle that was thrown at the officer, causing all of this, had knocked him from his horse and he had died, somebody would have been arrested for murder.



If a LEO feels his life is endanger, then he's within his rights to use deadly force.

Imagine what a threat that bottle-thrower would have been to a mere civilian.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:40:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
But if the bottle that was thrown at the officer, causing all of this, had knocked him from his horse and he had died, somebody would have been arrested for murder.



But it would have received next to no news coverage.

Link Posted: 10/22/2004 11:41:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
WAKE UP.

Old news



The NEWS is how ABC charachterized the weapon that killed her- as NON-lethal.

HOW CAN IT BE NON LETHAL WHEN IT KILLS SOMEONE?????

Geez....

Did your momma have to splain to you to pull yer drawers down to take a crap too??? "Momma...momma, I keep crapping my pants...."






The original post stated that she was killed with a non-lethal. I call a DUPE when I see a DUPE
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:02:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jeepster:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
But if the bottle that was thrown at the officer, causing all of this, had knocked him from his horse and he had died, somebody would have been arrested for murder.



If a LEO feels his life is endanger, then he's within his rights to use deadly force.

Imagine what a threat that bottle-thrower would have been to a mere civilian.



Problem is, deadly force was used without a deadly threat.

It's fucked up on all sides, but I hope this causes agencies to evaluate their policy on less lethal weapons.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:08:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Jeepster:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
But if the bottle that was thrown at the officer, causing all of this, had knocked him from his horse and he had died, somebody would have been arrested for murder.



If a LEO feels his life is endanger, then he's within his rights to use deadly force.

Imagine what a threat that bottle-thrower would have been to a mere civilian.



Problem is, deadly force was used without a deadly threat.

It's fucked up on all sides, but I hope this causes agencies to evaluate their policy on less lethal weapons.



I was just being sarcastic. They were just drunk college kids.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:20:41 PM EST
Thankfully no dogs were shot with non-lethal weapons.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:27:30 PM EST
IT IS CALLED LESS THAN LETHAL. IF SOMEONE IS THROWING ROCKS AT YOU ARE YOU GOING TO STAND THERE AND TAKE IT............I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY USED A BEANBAG ROUND THAT INADVERTANLY STRUCK THAT PERSON IN THE EYE AFTER THEY THREW SOMETHING AT A COP THEN TOUGH LUCK!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A USE OF FORCE MATRIX IS AND HOW A DEPARTMENT UTIZIZES IT THEN DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBIOUSLY NO ONE IS EDUCATED ABOUT IT.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 12:32:21 PM EST
The world now has one less drunk obnoxious journalism major.

I'm trying to feel empathy, which I know as someone who values all human life I should feel.

Wait... wait....

Nope. Dammit.

Well, I'll let you know when I start feeling sorry for her, as opposed to feeling guilty because I don't feel sorry for her, which is also a bad feeling but not technically the same thing.

Man, I think I just realized how much I really do hate the media.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:25:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By charliehorse794:
IT IS CALLED LESS THAN LETHAL. IF SOMEONE IS THROWING ROCKS AT YOU ARE YOU GOING TO STAND THERE AND TAKE IT............I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY USED A BEANBAG ROUND THAT INADVERTANLY STRUCK THAT PERSON IN THE EYE AFTER THEY THREW SOMETHING AT A COP THEN TOUGH LUCK!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A USE OF FORCE MATRIX IS AND HOW A DEPARTMENT UTIZIZES IT THEN DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBIOUSLY NO ONE IS EDUCATED ABOUT IT.



She was never accused of throwing anything. To my understanding, it was another person in the crowd.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:29:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 1:30:17 PM EST by benbob]

Originally Posted By charliehorse794:
IT IS CALLED LESS THAN LETHAL. IF SOMEONE IS THROWING ROCKS AT YOU ARE YOU GOING TO STAND THERE AND TAKE IT............I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY USED A BEANBAG ROUND THAT INADVERTANLY STRUCK THAT PERSON IN THE EYE AFTER THEY THREW SOMETHING AT A COP THEN TOUGH LUCK!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A USE OF FORCE MATRIX IS AND HOW A DEPARTMENT UTIZIZES IT THEN DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBIOUSLY NO ONE IS EDUCATED ABOUT IT.



I think your caps lock is on.

Say it, don't spray it.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:33:42 PM EST
The whole point of a less lethal weapon is to DETER agression. You don't aim for the head, and you don't shoot if you think you might hit somone in the head.

Seth
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:36:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By charliehorse794:
IT IS CALLED LESS THAN LETHAL. IF SOMEONE IS THROWING ROCKS AT YOU ARE YOU GOING TO STAND THERE AND TAKE IT............I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY USED A BEANBAG ROUND THAT INADVERTANLY STRUCK THAT PERSON IN THE EYE AFTER THEY THREW SOMETHING AT A COP THEN TOUGH LUCK!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A USE OF FORCE MATRIX IS AND HOW A DEPARTMENT UTIZIZES IT THEN DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBIOUSLY NO ONE IS EDUCATED ABOUT IT.



She was never accused of throwing anything. To my understanding, it was another person in the crowd.



Don't they always say that though?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:43:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By DarkKnight:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By charliehorse794:
IT IS CALLED LESS THAN LETHAL. IF SOMEONE IS THROWING ROCKS AT YOU ARE YOU GOING TO STAND THERE AND TAKE IT............I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY USED A BEANBAG ROUND THAT INADVERTANLY STRUCK THAT PERSON IN THE EYE AFTER THEY THREW SOMETHING AT A COP THEN TOUGH LUCK!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A USE OF FORCE MATRIX IS AND HOW A DEPARTMENT UTIZIZES IT THEN DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBIOUSLY NO ONE IS EDUCATED ABOUT IT.



She was never accused of throwing anything. To my understanding, it was another person in the crowd.



Don't they always say that though?



Well, witnesses say that, and the city isn't claiming otherwise.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:51:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:58:32 PM EST
Seems to me Chris Rock put it best.

If the cops gotta come tell you to get your ass straight, they are gonna be bringin an ass whippin with them.

"Oh, but I'm a sassy rich little white girl, and my daddy's a fat-cat lawyer! When the police yell "Cease and dissist!" They are only talking about those icky rowdy boys!"

Moral of the story: Stupid HURTS
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 1:59:55 PM EST
Garandman...I understood the irony you saw in the reporting of the incident by the media. I am sorry the young woman is dead ...I am sorry the copy editor has a job ...I am sorry that the REST of the media can't be more like FOX and Sinclair...I am sorry that hock.gifEVERY FUCKING TIME I WATCH TV OR READ A PAPER I AM SUBJECTED TO THE SAME MEDIA DUMDSHITTEDNESS that you allude to in your post.


There....I feel much better...
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 2:00:39 PM EST
So, most here think that the government murdered 80 Branch Davidians in Waco, who shoudn't have died, but a girl who was standing near a riot deserved to die for not going home earlier?
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 2:04:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
So, most here think that the government murdered 80 Branch Davidians in Waco, who shoudn't have died, but a girl who was standing near a riot deserved to die for not going home earlier?



Ah think that sums it up pretty good.
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 2:23:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
So, most here think that the government murdered 80 Branch Davidians in Waco, who shoudn't have died, but a girl who was standing near a riot deserved to die for not going home earlier?


We're in agreement.

That cop fucked-up...plain and simple. You don't shoot a been-bag out of a 12ga into a crowd, period! Maybe, there's more to this story. I don't know, but if there isn't then this cop should
do time in jail.

Here in Austin, the police riot squad have been known to CAUSE riots downtown. They get into a mob mentality like the people they're trying to control. I'm so sick of the people on this board that excuse ANY and ALL actions IF a police officer is involved. The bad apples need to be rooted-out.

Remember, that was somebody's little girl he killed. If that was my daughter, I would........................with extreme predjudice

Pl­ease excuse my anger
IBTL
Link Posted: 10/22/2004 2:35:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/22/2004 2:49:07 PM EST by Smokescreen]
I'm load'in my rifles up with rocks tonight(less than lethal)!!
TAKE EM OFF TO THE PADDYWAGON
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:07:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pecos:
Garandman...I understood the irony you saw in the reporting of the incident by the media. I am sorry the young woman is dead ...I am sorry the copy editor has a job ...I am sorry that the REST of the media can't be more like FOX and Sinclair...I am sorry that EVERY FUCKING TIME I WATCH TV OR READ A PAPER I AM SUBJECTED TO THE SAME MEDIA DUMDSHITTEDNESS that you allude to in your post.


There....I feel much better...



THANK YOU!!!!!

This was about the media - NOT the cops or the girl.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:13:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Pecos:
DUMDSHITTEDNESS




Webster, we got a new one for next year's edition.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:26:26 AM EST

I'm so sick of the people on this board that excuse ANY and ALL actions IF a police officer is involved.
- Whatever


The bad apples need to be rooted-out.
- I doubt you would see any LEOs here disagree with you on this.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:42:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
WAKE UP.

Old news



The NEWS is how ABC charachterized the weapon that killed her- as NON-lethal.

HOW CAN IT BE NON LETHAL WHEN IT KILLS SOMEONE?????

Geez....

Did your momma have to splain to you to pull yer drawers down to take a crap too??? "Momma...momma, I keep crapping my pants...."






The original post stated that she was killed with a non-lethal. I call a DUPE when I see a DUPE



#1: just because it has been discussed before doesn't mean others can't discuss it.
plus they can do so without their thoughts being lost on page 10.
So what if its a Dupe. For that matter, virtually everything has been brought up before.

#2: If the 'innocent' girl had not been in the middle of a rioting crowd, she would be alive today
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:57:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:05:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By tatjana:

You sort of need to look at the video of the area when the incident happened. Other than a few kids climbing up on signs and such there just wasn't much going on.

.



EXACTLY WHEN did "climbing on signs and such" become acceptable behaviour in our society???

I don't know what the girl was doing, but if i were a property owner, and someone were climbing on my sign, they'd be lucky to walk away from the area.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:07:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By PBIR:
Whew! That's funny alright. I laugh my ass off everytime an innocent girl gets killed. Woohoo! Good one!



No shit. Wtf is wrong with you G man?


SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 6:27:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:14:09 AM EST
dupe. IBTL.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:21:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:34:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:36:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I love how everyone assumes it was his intent to kill her....






I agree. From what I have read this was just a trajic accident.

Shit happens. Sorry she died, but shit still happens!


Sgatr15
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:44:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 8:46:06 AM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 8:49:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By redfisher:
#2: If the 'innocent' girl had not been in the middle of a rioting crowd, she would be alive today



This is a foolish statement to make. If John Kennedy hadn't gone to Dallas he would not have been assassinated. Does this mean its his fault he was assassinated?
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