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Posted: 4/28/2014 9:40:18 AM EDT
is there any way to get one in the US?
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Originally Posted By thewildman:
is there any way to get one in the US?
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hmm, consider me IN on 1
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:42:08 AM EDT
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Goddamnit, Cyril. You're drunk.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:43:41 AM EDT
I didn't even know there was such a thing.

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Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:45:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thewildman:
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Guess I'll be the first to ask, why?
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:46:43 AM EDT
fuck no
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:47:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:

Guess I'll be the first to ask, why?
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Originally Posted By thewildman:
is there any way to get one in the US?

Guess I'll be the first to ask, why?
you maybe the 1st but not the last.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 9:48:37 AM EDT

Then you can legally get one of those "SMG" stocks for the glock without SBRing it right?
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This. If a 4.5" barrel has 3/8" vertical travel during the cycle how much will a 16" barrel tilt up?
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:

Then you can legally get one of those "SMG" stocks for the glock without SBRing it right?
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that is the plan, if i can ever get ahold of a barrel. they exist, but i have yet to see one in the US.
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I would think the added weight of the barrel would cause too much friction when it unlocks and will malfunction like crazy
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:04:30 AM EDT
No problem. This one's in 10mm, but they make 9mm and .45 as well. 1911's too.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:06:51 AM EDT
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If this is for an SBR project...I thought of this as well..but then decided that a longer barrel is kinda pointless...yes you get a little more velocity...but accuracy doesn't really improve...it can even be argued that SHORTER barrels (as long as they stabilize the bullet sufficiently) are actually MORE accurate than longer barrels...shorter barrels are stiffer and have less sag to them, and better harmonics.

So if you are going the "SBR" route with the sig brace and a Hera Triarii kit, or a RONI kit...I say just keep the factory 4 or 5 inch barrel.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:09:39 AM EDT
Glock 10mm SBR- I actually got the stamps and suppressor last week-



Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:13:58 AM EDT
i am looking for the barrel so i DON'T have to sbr it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:15:28 AM EDT
OP, my advice is to save up and buy the MPX pistol when it comes out. IT comes with a arm brace that works just like a stock.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:17:33 AM EDT
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OP, my advice is to save up and buy the MPX pistol when it comes out. IT comes with a arm brace that works just like a stock.
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will it take the same magazines as my glock 21?
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:17:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RCC1:
Glock 10mm SBR- I actually got the stamps and suppressor last week-

<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/user/rccox/media/Guns/15B3467E-E876-48E4-AC55-1594A7A53975.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/rccox/Guns/15B3467E-E876-48E4-AC55-1594A7A53975.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s300.photobucket.com/user/rccox/media/Guns/2021E991-2666-476F-98F7-474A03972456.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/rccox/Guns/2021E991-2666-476F-98F7-474A03972456.jpg</a>
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Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:17:57 AM EDT
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will it take the same magazines as my glock 21?
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Originally Posted By thewildman:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
OP, my advice is to save up and buy the MPX pistol when it comes out. IT comes with a arm brace that works just like a stock.


will it take the same magazines as my glock 21?

No, it will take better ones, Lancer made

Why limit yourself to glock mags
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:18:20 AM EDT
Bore or length?

Need mo Big Mo.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:18:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thewildman:
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I say get a Hera Triarii kit, and add the Sig Brace...it still isn't an SBR...and is very handy.

Forget the long glock barrel...I would think it may cause reliability issues.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:29:27 AM EDT
I tried making 16.1" for use with the Roni kit but while I was able to get a design to function well, accuracy was crap. The way the barrel locks up, adding the extra leverage (weight) created very inconsistent grouping. Best I got was in the 4-5" range at 25y.
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Are you married to keeping the Glock upper or is the Mech Tech something that would work? They aren't SBRs.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:33:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:

No, it will take better ones, Lancer made

Why limit yourself to glock mags
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By thewildman:
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
OP, my advice is to save up and buy the MPX pistol when it comes out. IT comes with a arm brace that works just like a stock.


will it take the same magazines as my glock 21?

No, it will take better ones, Lancer made

Why limit yourself to glock mags

i am looking for a light small rifle that uses the same mags, ammo and possibly supressor as my glock 21.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:35:16 AM EDT
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Are you married to keeping the Glock upper or is the Mech Tech something that would work? They aren't SBRs.
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
Originally Posted By thewildman:
i am looking for the barrel so i DON'T have to sbr it.


Are you married to keeping the Glock upper or is the Mech Tech something that would work? They aren't SBRs.


after handeling and shooting a few mech techs, i am not a fan.
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That will cut down on accidental groin and thigh shootings, but knees and feet are still in danger though...
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
No problem. This one's in 10mm, but they make 9mm and .45 as well. 1911's too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/halromberg/temporary_zps73ff0edc.jpg
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What's the story with those mags?
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:39:33 AM EDT
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What's the story with those mags?
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
No problem. This one's in 10mm, but they make 9mm and .45 as well. 1911's too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/halromberg/temporary_zps73ff0edc.jpg


What's the story with those mags?

Those are KRISS mags.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:44:58 AM EDT
Yup. Kriss makes a kit for the .45. You have to squish the spring a bit to get it to work with a standard 10mm magazine body, but it works. Either that or you can mod the feed lips on a .45 stick to grip the smaller rounds (bend em in towards the center) and they'll feed fine too. IDK if it'll feed with the Glock upper, but the Mech Tech is a big gonzo bolt with a heavy spring. It'll grab a round out of a black hole if you put it in front of the thing.

And yeah, the Mech Techs are heavy. Comes from running a 10mm in a straight blowback. It needs a BIG chunk of steel for the bolt.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:46:20 AM EDT
The Kriss mags are pretty easy to convert to 10mm.

Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:55:57 AM EDT
It won't cycle.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 10:57:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:
It won't cycle.
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What won't cycle?
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:


What won't cycle?
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It won't cycle.


What won't cycle?


if made correctly, it will cycle.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 2:15:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
No problem. This one's in 10mm, but they make 9mm and .45 as well. 1911's too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/halromberg/temporary_zps73ff0edc.jpg
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What is that and where can I get one?
ETA: Nevermind, that has been bumped up to next on my list, I've had a beat up old glock 22 sitting in my safe for a while.
Link Posted: 4/28/2014 6:17:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ab_cartman:

What is that and where can I get one?
ETA: Nevermind, that has been bumped up to next on my list, I've had a beat up old glock 22 sitting in my safe for a while.
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
No problem. This one's in 10mm, but they make 9mm and .45 as well. 1911's too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/halromberg/temporary_zps73ff0edc.jpg

What is that and where can I get one?
ETA: Nevermind, that has been bumped up to next on my list, I've had a beat up old glock 22 sitting in my safe for a while.

Heavy, but seriously fun.
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 5:24:09 AM EDT
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What won't cycle?
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:
It won't cycle.


What won't cycle?


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 5:33:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Originally Posted By HRomberg:
Originally Posted By HKPDW:
It won't cycle.


What won't cycle?


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.

LID Booster. Is that like a magna port but on the bottom to push the end of the bbl up?
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 6:09:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.
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Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Originally Posted By HRomberg:
Originally Posted By HKPDW:
It won't cycle.


What won't cycle?


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.


I use a AAC Tirant on my Glock 20 and haven't had to do anything to it to make it cycle. It's shoots flawlessly with the suppressor on the pistol and as a SBR in my Fab Defense chassis.
Link Posted: 4/29/2014 6:41:21 AM EDT
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LID Booster. Is that like a magna port but on the bottom to push the end of the bbl up?
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Originally Posted By HRomberg:
Originally Posted By HKPDW:
Originally Posted By HRomberg:
Originally Posted By HKPDW:
It won't cycle.


What won't cycle?


The pistol. The barrel has to tilt to unlock the breech. With that much barrel, there will be too much weight for it to tilt.

That's why suppressors used on Glocks have to be equipped with an LID / Booster to tilt the barrel. I use a non-boosted AAC striker on my Glock 17 and I have to manually cycle it.

LID Booster. Is that like a magna port but on the bottom to push the end of the bbl up?


It's a spring system that adds energy to the tilting action (to allow the barrel to tilt up and unlock). Kinda like a spring loaded hammer that hits the barrel muzzle after the round is fired.

Some suppressors have the booster and some do not. This really depends on whether you are working with a fixed or tilting barrel.
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