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Posted: 11/19/2011 4:35:45 AM EDT
Doing  a little reading on it. It sounds like a great long range round for critters.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:41:08 AM EDT

Great varmint round. Most (all?) factory barrels are slow twist, so it won't stabilize heavier bullets.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:48:06 AM EDT
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It eats barrel throats. It makes squirrels explode. It's more expensive to shoot than .223 varmint ammo. It's usually a bolt gun. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:48:22 AM EDT
One of the best.  Be advised, tho, it is reputed to be a NOISY beast.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:49:21 AM EDT
Tag for interest.  I'm trying to figure out my next gun passion.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:52:29 AM EDT
I have two of them. With handloads they will shoot one hole at 100 yards. With factory ammo you can cover a 5 shot group with a dime. If you use good quality bullets like Barnes X they are poison on small deer. My daughter killed her first deer with one.
They are fun but not a very wide spectrum gun. meaning they are really good at one thing and not so much for others.

Jim
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 4:57:18 AM EDT
Very fast, very flat, very loud. Like the .220swift, there isnt much else that does what they do any better. Think of it like a race car. The PERFECT tool for one or two specific purposes.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:03:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.


Most of the negatives of this round are easily mitigated by choosing a heavier bullet, with a higher ballistic coefficient. If you handload, its no challenge at all to assemble ammo that is still supersonic, and accurate at 1200yds. The bullets designed to make the 223 competitive in highpower rifle competition allow large capacity 22s like the 22-250 to perform far beyond what you would ever imagine.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:03:54 AM EDT
It's that varmint round that's almost as good as the 220 Swift round.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:05:29 AM EDT
Nice on prairie dogs at 300
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:13:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 5:26:33 AM EDT by MultipleFractures]
Obsolete.   .204 Ruger will do everything plus longer barrel life and available in an AR platform.

/thread

Edit: Damn autocorrect.


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Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:16:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 5:22:11 AM EDT by AeroE]
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:20:22 AM EDT
I love mine.  It is a laser beam as far as accuracy.  Took a nice 8 point last weekend with it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:34:15 AM EDT
I have one, haven't shot it since I got an accurate AR.  More fun to shoot at moving varmints!  My AR is hitting over 50% of all coyotes and coons lately.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:38:25 AM EDT
Since I alread had .223's I got .243's instead of .22-250's. A .243 will do everything a .22-250 will do plus it will shoot heavier bullets if need be.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 5:43:20 AM EDT
If I could only have 1 rifle it would be a 22-250. With a Sierra 52 grain hollow point at max velocity it will shoot through a manhole lid.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:29:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JC77:
I love mine.  It is a laser beam as far as accuracy.  Took a nice 8 point last weekend with it.


Did the bullet exit?
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:34:40 AM EDT



Originally Posted By abinok:



Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:

It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.



That's all I got.




Most of the negatives of this round are easily mitigated by choosing a heavier bullet, with a higher ballistic coefficient. If you handload, its no challenge at all to assemble ammo that is still supersonic, and accurate at 1200yds. The bullets designed to make the 223 competitive in highpower rifle competition allow large capacity 22s like the 22-250 to perform far beyond what you would ever imagine.


no



 
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:38:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It eats barrel throats. It makes squirrels explode. It's more expensive to shoot than .223 varmint ammo. It's usually a bolt gun. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.


yep, and rabbits.  In fact, we actually wanted rabbit meat so it went back into the gun case.

That same day a coyote was taken with a 25-06.  Overkill day for sure.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:39:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By OlCrow:
It's that varmint round that's almost as good as the 220 Swift round.




Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:40:18 AM EDT
Love mine.
Ruger #1 w/ bull (varmint) barrel.
I no longer deer hunt, but it was the only gun I used for deer over the last 10 years of hunting.
VERY accurate (and, yes, very loud)... in 10 years I only had to track 1 deer. All others dropped where they were hit.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:41:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MultipleFractures:
Obsolete.   .204 Ruger will do everything plus longer barrel life and available in an AR platform.

/thread

Edit: Damn autocorrect.


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Unless you want to shoot a heavier than 40gr bullet.
The .204 and .22-250 have similar trajectories but the .22-250 will do everything the .204 will do and more. I have both, but if I had to choose one it would be the .22-250. It is a good choice for any type of varmint and with the correct ammo is good for whitetails as well.
Obsolete? Not in this lifetime....

My son got his first rifle whitetail kill with mine:



They make big exit holes on small animals....




Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:45:40 AM EDT
I have killed 50+ Deer and Hogs with 22-250 and seen more than that number killed with it.  3800- 4000 fps makes things dead.  If you are going to do high volume shooting it will burn your barrel out.  I know of more than one 22-250 that has 2k rounds down the tube and still shoots sub MOA.  That is a lot of rounds for a hunting gun.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 7:47:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AeroE:
They're great.  I rebarreled mine with a 9 twist barrel so I could shoot 75 grain AMAX bullets.

The rifle I own was manufactured by Remington in the first year of production for .22-250.  The original barrel was a piece of trash when I bought the rifle and I couldn't make it shoot in any usable way.  The very first shot out of the rifle with a handload chronographed just over 3900 fps, and I'll tell you, I thought that was cool because I was nowhere near a maximum charge weight.  I don't recall the bullet weight, but it was probably either a 45 or 50 grain bullet that I already had  on hand.

It's not really a long range cartridge with the usual range of bullet weights.  They still blow in the wind due to their relatively high drag (low BC).



22-250 is a spectacular round to 400 yards which means its awesome for varmints.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:00:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By OlCrow:
It's that varmint round that's almost as good as the 220 Swift round.


This.

The 22-250 wants to be a 220 Swift when it grows up.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:03:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MultipleFractures:
Obsolete.   .204 Ruger will do everything plus longer barrel life and available in an AR platform.

/thread

Edit: Damn autocorrect.


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Only if you don't really care about energy or bullet weight.  Especially when you get into the realm of fast twist barrels and heavier bullets in the 22-250 or 220 Swift.

Besides that, there are only 2 or 3 bullet weights available for the 204.  For the 22 cal there is everything from a 35-90, so depending on your twist rate, you can meet or exceed the 204 on either end of the spectrum.

Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:05:16 AM EDT
Great for giving barely noticable better ballistics, and shorter barrel life than a .223 handload.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:12:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Great for giving barely noticable better ballistics, and shorter barrel life than a .223 handload.


Depending on bullet weight the .22-250 will get 300-500 fps over the .223, I wouldn't call that "barely noticable".
YMMV.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:15:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Vespid_Wasp:
Originally Posted By OlCrow:
It's that varmint round that's almost as good as the 220 Swift round.


This.

The 22-250 wants to be a 220 Swift when it grows up.


Meh.  The Swift is a PITA when it comes to case life, unless you are very careful in loading.

22-250 AI for the win.  

Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:19:00 AM EDT
My Dad has a nice custom 22-250 he bought a few years ago. It was built on a cut down Mauser 98 action with a bull barrel and a target stock that looks like the previous owner used it for bench rest shooting. Very accurate past 500 yards with handloads.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:19:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Lungbuster:
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Great for giving barely noticable better ballistics, and shorter barrel life than a .223 handload.


Depending on bullet weight the .22-250 will get 300-500 fps over the .223, I wouldn't call that "barely noticable".
YMMV.


I get 34XX FPS w/50gr, and 29.Xgr of Benchmark out of a 26" bbl. in my .223.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:22:30 AM EDT
FYI, Oly makes an AR type rifle in 22.250.
If ya just gotta have one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:25:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Originally Posted By Lungbuster:
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Great for giving barely noticable better ballistics, and shorter barrel life than a .223 handload.


Depending on bullet weight the .22-250 will get 300-500 fps over the .223, I wouldn't call that "barely noticable".
YMMV.


I get 34XX FPS w/50gr, and 29.Xgr of Benchmark out of a 26" bbl. in my .223.


and I get 3850 fps with the same load in the same length barrel
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:35:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 8:38:52 AM EDT by Lungbuster]
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Originally Posted By Lungbuster:
Originally Posted By JAMES77257:
Great for giving barely noticable better ballistics, and shorter barrel life than a .223 handload.


Depending on bullet weight the .22-250 will get 300-500 fps over the .223, I wouldn't call that "barely noticable".
YMMV.


I get 34XX FPS w/50gr, and 29.Xgr of Benchmark out of a 26" bbl. in my .223.


That would explode any .223 I've ever seen. Custom barrel?

I shoot Benchmark as well in my .223's and they start getting hot around 24.8 grs... I get 3190 with 24.8gr and shoots in the .5's. A very hot load in this rifle.

EDIT: I get 3750 with 38gr of H380 in my .22-250 but obviously the .22-250 has alot more case capacity and will beat the .223 in velocity every time. I could get more velocity out of my .250 but it really likes this load. I've shot a few groups in the .1's with it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:42:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GaryM:
FYI, Oly makes an AR type rifle in 22.250.
If ya just gotta have one.


In an AR10 platform?  22-250 won't fit in AR15 mags without over seating the bullet.  

BTW I love love love 22-250.  Great for deer and antelope, great for prairie dogs.  Just an awesome all around caliber.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:44:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By abinok:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.


Most of the negatives of this round are easily mitigated by choosing a heavier bullet, with a higher ballistic coefficient. If you handload, its no challenge at all to assemble ammo that is still supersonic, and accurate at 1200yds. The bullets designed to make the 223 competitive in highpower rifle competition allow large capacity 22s like the 22-250 to perform far beyond what you would ever imagine.


Most of the 22-250's already produced will not stabilise the heavy bullets now available.  If you have a barrel with a quicker twist you may have some luck, but most of the firearms already chambered in this caliber are slow twist for 55 grain and under bullets.  Some barrels will do better than others of course, but most will not.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 8:56:57 AM EDT
Damn.
This turned into a Glock vs. XD "ish" thread pretty quick.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:05:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 9:06:16 AM EDT by Paul]
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:16:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:18:25 AM EDT
Nice looking rifles Paul. What are they?
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:20:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 9:30:49 AM EDT by AJK07734]
Originally Posted By Squid1:

Originally Posted By abinok:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.


Most of the negatives of this round are easily mitigated by choosing a heavier bullet, with a higher ballistic coefficient. If you handload, its no challenge at all to assemble ammo that is still supersonic, and accurate at 1200yds. The bullets designed to make the 223 competitive in highpower rifle competition allow large capacity 22s like the 22-250 to perform far beyond what you would ever imagine.

no
 

Actually yes...IF you get a barrel with a better twist than the "Standard"... You can have a lot of fun with the .22-250 if you handload, and you can also get some SCORCHING velocity..at the cost of your throating..dont ask how i know about that part  Now you bastards have me thinking about slapping a .22-250 bbl on the Mauser action i have sitting in the safe.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:23:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Squid1:

Originally Posted By abinok:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
It's small. It's really fast. It's not great in wind. It's a laser to a specific distance then looses velocity and accuracy fast.

That's all I got.


Most of the negatives of this round are easily mitigated by choosing a heavier bullet, with a higher ballistic coefficient. If you handload, its no challenge at all to assemble ammo that is still supersonic, and accurate at 1200yds. The bullets designed to make the 223 competitive in highpower rifle competition allow large capacity 22s like the 22-250 to perform far beyond what you would ever imagine.

no
 


Yep.
Just facts, with no personal conjecture of any kind. If you would care to refute any specifics go ahead. But just posting "no" points to ignorance.

Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:29:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Actually yes...IF you get a barrel with a better twist than the "Standard"... You can have a lot of fun with the .22-250 if you handload, and you can also get some SCORCHING velocity..at the cost of your throating..dont ask how i know about that part


Buy the longest barrel blank you can find....

Then you can set it back a few times before the length starts hurting velocity too much.  
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:33:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Actually yes...IF you get a barrel with a better twist than the "Standard"... You can have a lot of fun with the .22-250 if you handload, and you can also get some SCORCHING velocity..at the cost of your throating..dont ask how i know about that part


Buy the longest barrel blank you can find....

Then you can set it back a few times before the length starts hurting velocity too much.  


At one point I was getting them fast enough that they would grenade on the skin of the critter..making a huge mess, but not a clean kill..i played with it more and got it so fast the jackets were coming off a couple of feet from the muzzle..then i grew up and got it back to reasonable velocities, but there was no accuracy left in it.  Had it re-barrelled to a .308 and gave it to a buddy (Rem 788)
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:38:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Actually yes...IF you get a barrel with a better twist than the "Standard"... You can have a lot of fun with the .22-250 if you handload, and you can also get some SCORCHING velocity..at the cost of your throating..dont ask how i know about that part


Buy the longest barrel blank you can find....

Then you can set it back a few times before the length starts hurting velocity too much.  


At one point I was getting them fast enough that they would grenade on the skin of the critter..making a huge mess, but not a clean kill..i played with it more and got it so fast the jackets were coming off a couple of feet from the muzzle..then i grew up and got it back to reasonable velocities, but there was no accuracy left in it.  Had it re-barrelled to a .308 and gave it to a buddy (Rem 788)


I've read of this happening but never seen it. Would you happen to have any pics?

Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:52:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 9:52:40 AM EDT by JAMES77257]
Originally Posted By Paul:
I bought one rather than the 'swift as the wisdom at the times was the .22-250 was 95% of the .220 Swift with twice the barrel life. Mine shoots sub-moa all day long and I've put in some five and ten shot groups of less than 3" at 500 yards. I can use some of my .223 bullets in the .22-250 cases but not all - the extra +700 feet per second can rip some of the AR-15's rounds up.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/Ruger.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/TwinBoltActions.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/AR-15_Paul/Rifles/BoltGuns.jpg


Ruger VT.

The best out of the box rifle made.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 9:52:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By AJK07734:
Actually yes...IF you get a barrel with a better twist than the "Standard"... You can have a lot of fun with the .22-250 if you handload, and you can also get some SCORCHING velocity..at the cost of your throating..dont ask how i know about that part


Buy the longest barrel blank you can find....

Then you can set it back a few times before the length starts hurting velocity too much.  


At one point I was getting them fast enough that they would grenade on the skin of the critter..making a huge mess, but not a clean kill..i played with it more and got it so fast the jackets were coming off a couple of feet from the muzzle..then i grew up and got it back to reasonable velocities, but there was no accuracy left in it.  Had it re-barrelled to a .308 and gave it to a buddy (Rem 788)


I never had them come apart that close to the muzzle.  Usually between 25-50 yards.  A buddy has me laughing when I let him shoot it.  'Damn, I KNOW I shot five at the target but there are only three holes."  

I shot a few watermelons with that load.  Would do as you described.  Big crater on the surface but only fragments penetrated, and then only a couple of inches.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 10:10:16 AM EDT



Originally Posted By Vespid_Wasp:



Originally Posted By OlCrow:

It's that varmint round that's almost as good as the 220 Swift round.




This.



The 22-250 wants to be a 220 Swift when it grows up.
 yep



Got an exceptional deal on a 40x about 10 years ago in a .220Swift with the optional 2oz trigger.     It loves ballistic tips in both 50g and 55g, it will print one hole groups all day on paper, regardless if I load it down in the 3700fps range or 4100fps range.   The recoil is very mild.      



The 22-250 is capable of shooting just as well, with about 200fps slower velocity..      I wouldn't discount either one for a great round.  



I personally haven't tried it, but I know of another person who has taken numerous whitetail deer with his .220.  









 
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 10:39:41 AM EDT
my young daughter enjoys blowing up watermelons with mine......very little recoil
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 10:45:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bob243:

I personally haven't tried it, but I know of another person who has taken numerous whitetail deer with his .220.  
 



This .220 has killed a handful of deer and probably 100 hogs or more. I'm leaving tonight on another deer hunting trip and it'll have two or three more deer to add to the tally by Tuesday afternoon. 55gr Hornady V-Max is all that I shoot out of it.



Link Posted: 11/19/2011 10:56:19 AM EDT
I have 2 rifles, a Ruger 77 Varmint, and a Ruger No. 1 Varmint both shoot really well.  When my dad was alive we would go out and shoot 300 plus rounds at prairie dogs, it was very effective out to 400 yards.  We would use Sierra 55 gr HPBT #1390 with 38.5 gr of H380 and it was devastating. For the more windier Wyoming days we would use the Sierra 60 gr HP flat base and would do just fine.  The only draw back is recoil, and locating or hit, but we solved that by spotting for each other.  With the .223 you can see your hits, but you lose some of the flat shooting characteristics of the 22-250.
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