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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:22:13 AM EDT
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I believe there is a screen shot with his user name towards the top of page 86? |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:22:26 AM EDT
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It was IFRconditions that was quoted in the article. I posted the screencapture from the article above. He hasn't come back as he was called out to the Gateway Arch to singlehandedly take it back from Al-Qaeda jihadists in the St. Louis battlezone.
Posted again for those that are a bit slow.  URL of the screencapture from the article www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/ifrpost.jpg |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:24:26 AM EDT
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Agreed. I don't mind somebody having the opinion that someone would be better off dead, but to actually make a death threat? Way too fucking far. Arrest his ass. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:25:27 AM EDT
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Hey, you better get with the program, man. You should know by now how this works. Videotaping citizens going about their personal business anytime and anywhere, and keeping those videos in a private, LEO-only database for cross-referencing forever and ever is just fine (unless of course they show something damaging to the Government, in which case they will be conveniently "lost"), and you shouldn't be worried about it unless you have something to hide. But any videotape of LEOs or other Government officials doing anything by private citizens is terrorism, fascism, communism, and any other -ism we can think of, and anyone known to do such things will be shot on sight. Kidding....  Sorta  |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:27:07 AM EDT
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I find it ironic he chose the name IFRconditions. I guess he needs lots of little dials and instruments to see whats going on around him as he obviously can't see whats right in front of him, which would be VFRconditions
 Wonder if he flys an Apache around the war torn streets of St. Louisstan
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:29:01 AM EDT
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Worse yet, imagine what would happen if the officer shot a pit bull and then went home and made chili with beans in it.
.........and then posted a dinner pic |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:46:26 AM EDT
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I don't know if you realize this, but you totally PWNED PAGE 87.  That only happens every so often in arfcom history dude! |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:47:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:49:39 AM EDT
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The way he's going, St. Louis area security guard companies are soon going to be enjoying a large applicant pool.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:54:59 AM EDT
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I wonder if anyone will try to subpoena IFRcondition's IP address from here?
Might want to keep it handy just in case.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:55:18 AM EDT
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Bigtime. Oh wait.... they're just as fucked up... just on a wider scale and with a bigger budget... |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:57:19 AM EDT
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Wouldn't the MO State Police be the next step? What would make it Federal? |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:59:29 AM EDT
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His name is BRENT.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 10:59:40 AM EDT
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Holy hell. That's ALL we need.... 
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:00:26 AM EDT
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I'm pretty sure they use federal civil rights laws to get involved in cases of bad cops. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:01:57 AM EDT
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IOP87
eta...I'm hoping Brent already had plans to move away from St. Louis... |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:02:38 AM EDT
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Whoever posted that is too f*cking stupid to be in LE. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:03:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, that's what I am thinking. I am sure MO Atty General would still get involved at the department level because of state certification. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:04:14 AM EDT
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But this is getting impossible to ignore. I hope the whole St.Louis PD is investigated. Essentially issueing a fatwa against a civilian who's broken no laws among the myriad of other related issues certainly justifies such an effort IMO. I've been to countries where the police are entirely corrupt and untrusted. It isn't pretty. Any steps needed to keep corrupt cops out of work are steps well worth taking. An honest man can not be baited, bribed or bought. Nothing to worry about if you're a cop in good standing. For those that aren't good cops, fuck'em.....give them the horns. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:05:31 AM EDT
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Goatboy should change that link to link to the home page. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:07:36 AM EDT
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Maybe one of the LEOs can give us an answer? |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:08:47 AM EDT
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Jesus, this thread keeps on giving. That said, I hope some agency, be it State or Federal, gets involved after all this. This kid has all kind of threats coming his way, on this board and others, via the pack revenge mentality these LEO's are displaying, and it is scary.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:26:57 AM EDT
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Just wanted to make sure I got in on page 87.
ETA DAMMIT 
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:28:43 AM EDT
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I don't recall anyone making threats against this kid in this thread. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:29:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:34:56 AM EDT
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Should have been here at the beginning...you think you were posting on page 4, and there you were on page 10 
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:35:28 AM EDT
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:37:57 AM EDT
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Tagged for out come....
damn I hope this dosn't end up in the trash...... |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:40:54 AM EDT
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I just couldn't resist tagging a JBT thread on page 88.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:40:55 AM EDT
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Nope, wasn't me. You and I worked out our little disagreement. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:41:56 AM EDT
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IFRconditions saying that he would exersice his discreation to tow his car and pay fees EVRY time he ran into him isnt a threat.. ? this isnt a LEO from acroos the country typing from his laptop in the crapper.. its from a LEO that works the area the kid lives in and is very upset at him.. comeone now.. that is not a threat ? |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:42:41 AM EDT
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In regards to the blue- that cop needs to be found.... he's one who needs to be off the streets too. He should not be able to get away with such illegal threats. And in regards to the green, that is NOT condoning harrassment. RIF. It says when you're out and about, as an officer of the law, if you see the kid breaking the law, you just don't let him off. And in fact it says to NOT do what the officer in the video did- no yelling, no arguing, just do your job. Every time an officer pulls someone over who is speeding, and lets them off with a warning, it's the officer exercising his or her judgement and discretion. This kid has gotten enough 'warnings.' If he breaks the law from here on out, he gets the full punishment. End of story. I don't see anywhere in that post where is says to hunt the kid down, follow him around day and night, and try to catch him, OR where it says to make something up about him. The article is spinning that post to fit its needs, and it is wrong. 
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:44:30 AM EDT
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Nope, he struck out. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:47:08 AM EDT
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Not for the most part. I think there are some exceptions, but as a general rule, I would agree. What I was pointing out that if the police don't like the fact the unions help keep bad cops they CAN change things. Just using what you taught me Bama.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:47:09 AM EDT
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two issues at work here.. first its been proven that the cops will pull him over and MAKE UP charges.. then punish him on the fake charges.. im 100% sure thath what that cop meant .. I don't see anywhere in that post where is says to hunt the kid down, follow him around day and night, and try to catch him, OR where it says to make something up about him. thats what happens here and the reason we are here right now.. The article is spinning that post to fit its needs, and it is wrong. Still, participants did not disavow the posting. Instead, another added, "I'm going to his house to check for parking violations." We informed Darrow of the existence of the messages, but withheld publication not wishing to interfere with an expected investigation into officers' behavior at the well-publicized traffic stops. To our knowledge, no such investigation was ever made. and no one said when stoped he gets a "warning" ... he gets a full fledged pocket empting ticket. but the offier IFRconditions wants to go and ALSO tow his car so he can pay impond fees... NOT for the public good but so the kid can stop exposing them and teaching him a lesson .. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:47:51 AM EDT
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In that case, I apologize. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:49:57 AM EDT
[#37]
well
Coming from a LEO in that same area sure seems like one to me, to target this individual as a revenge tactic for exposing a bad cop. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:50:42 AM EDT
[#38]
No problem. No harm no foul. I took offense originally at something that you really didn't direct at me. I am sorry I got a little nasty then. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:53:25 AM EDT
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Right. It means jail someone and impound his car because of failure to use turn signal. If the law in Missouri allows that, the law in Missouri sucks. When you use your badge to work out your personal vendettas, you don't deserve a badge, you deserve to be looking out at the world through bars. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:55:01 AM EDT
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Two things
1) We don't have any real unions in Missouri for LE. LE and Fire departments have no collective bargaining rights. There are Police Associations and the national FOP. In short, they don't have much power to influence the department leadership or their members. 2) I don't know if I would truly want real unions due to my experience with the Teamsters years ago. They did their best to keep some of the most useless people employed. I know it is their job, but they made it very hard for management to get rid of the dead weight that we had to pick up the slack for. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:57:36 AM EDT
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I think its been established that in MO you can arrest and by default tow the car < and inventory it> this cop wants to use that power to fuck with this kid but not the guy he stoped before or the guy he stops after the guy.. he made it clear why he wants to do that . i called that retaliation a few pages back... somecops defended that action.. saying it was well within the officers rights.. even if he only towed the kids car and no one elses..
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:00:19 PM EDT
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I wonder how long it will be before the police union starts lobbying the state legislature to change the law regarding the recording of conversations to require the consent of both individuals.
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:02:03 PM EDT
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When I worked the civilian side, we only towed cars of people we arrested if it was going to be processed for evidence(think CSI for you TV watchers), would be hazard if left at the scene, contained valuable electronics(stereo system) or other property(had to make sure it was noted on tow slip so it wouldn't walk off at the tow yard) that could be stolen at the scene(I worked the hood) or if the vehicle itself was used during the commission of a crime(non-traffic crime). |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:03:48 PM EDT
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How can anyone say that the kid did ANYTHING wrong? First of all, he's not a vigilante. He merely allowed a cop to act like an asshole and taped it. It's ALL on the cop. I'm glad that the cop is in trouble, and it's all due to the kid and his camera.
Now, if the kid had made threatening gestures or something, trying to get the cop to act up, that would be wrong. But the kid never did that, and furthermore, there is NO excuse for a cop to threaten to make up charges and send someone to jail for no reason. The kid did good, and I hope he continues to expose bad cops. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:03:57 PM EDT
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Wow, I missed a lot but this page
www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1967.asp with the following quote from UFRconditions: www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/ifrpost.jpg Sure started out right but it would seem that someone in law enforcement would be bright enough to shut the hell up before you go so far as to indicate how you can stalk and harrass a civilian that you don't like. Sure, you can do it but stupid could really hurt if somone identifies this fool and he loses his job for posting something like this... Then again, if this is SOP, perhaps that is not such a bad thing in an officer is out of a job? Stupid hurts sometimes! |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:11:38 PM EDT
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So where did it come out that IFRconditions is one of/ if not the offficer involved??
Did I miss something? I don't recall that part or did this come from the news link
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:13:17 PM EDT
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Show me in that post where it says to jail and impound his car because of failure to use the turn signal. Look, I haven't read every page in this thread- nor have I read all of this particular poster's posts (IFRsomethingorother), but as an average person, reading THAT POST, it does NOT condone harrassment like the newspaper article is spinning it. And yes, I'm sure there are A LOT of personal hard feelings between everyone in that little town, but that's human nature. That post did not condone or suggest anything illegal. The laws are the laws. There are various ranges for punishments, and it sounds like this kid has been pulled over so many times that he's used up any chances he's had for getting the lower punishments. *** There's a simple solution for the kid-- DON'T EVER BREAK THE LAW. THAT is the issue behind this post. Don't read into his post- he did NOT say to make something up-- obviously it's something that officer video does/has done, but this guy (the poster here on Arfcom) did NOT suggest or condone it. It's very disingenous for anyone here to suggest that he did (at least in that post- like I said, I have not read all of his postings). *** Just so you know..... I read a quick post from Bama that insinuated that this town is a 'speed trap' town, and I can't stand that either. That's a whole different discussion though. on a side note..... is IFR... even around anymore? I wonder if he's a troll acct for someone else here..... 
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:13:19 PM EDT
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So, if LE targets one specific person or sub set of persons, those who decide to exercise their rights by recording their conversations with police, would there not be an equal protection argument?
That is, unless they start arresting everyone for traffic tickets, I think they've got problems. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:13:31 PM EDT
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no IFR made it to the news all by himslef by what he said here,, there is no connection <yet .. other then they work the same area... between officer dumbass and officer friendly.. yet > |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:13:38 PM EDT
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I think he's just a local cop. |
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