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Posted: 4/8/2014 7:49:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/8/2015 6:27:13 AM EDT by nat103]
Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger. See the thread discussing it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger. Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not. For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.

ETA 4/9/14 @ 1345

Mr. Geissele has answered in this thread and estimated a rough cost if enough units were sold (all hypothetical of course!)

ASSUME A COST OF $325 EACH, NOT $500.

At the time of this edit the poll read:

Yes: 264 71.7%
No: 104 28.3%


ETA 2 4/9/14 @ 1925 Awesome video of SD3G capability.



ETA 3 BIG OL' TITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because.










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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!

IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!



http://geissele.com/


April Fools. Now Bill needs encouragement.


FTBATFE








Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:52:47 PM EDT
SSA/S3G two-in-one combo unit?

You bet your ass I would buy that!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:53:52 PM EDT
No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:54:14 PM EDT
yes
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:55:36 PM EDT
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Not at $500. $300 maybe.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:55:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeatBag:
No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.
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I believe the idea is to use the "auto" position of the selector to select the single stage trigger, not put the gun in full auto.

Seems like a neat idea. $500 seems steep though.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:56:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeatBag:
No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.
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Dear Sissy,

Not simulated full auto, two trigger functions in one gun, depending on the need at the time.

Thanks Sissy

Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:56:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hi-PointHero:
Not at $500. $300 maybe.
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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:57:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VBC:



I believe the idea is to use the "auto" position of the selector to select the single stage trigger, not put the gun in full auto.

Seems like a neat idea. $500 seems steep though.
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Originally Posted By VBC:
Originally Posted By MeatBag:
No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.



I believe the idea is to use the "auto" position of the selector to select the single stage trigger, not put the gun in full auto.

Seems like a neat idea. $500 seems steep though.



Exactly.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:58:08 PM EDT
Hells yes. Id buy a few for sure.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:58:27 PM EDT
Hell no. Fancy triggers are for sissies.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:58:57 PM EDT
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Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:59:42 PM EDT
Only if a bunch of shills show up pushing the trigger.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:01:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?
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And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:03:25 PM EDT
Sounds like an awesome idea. I wouldn't pay $500 though.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:04:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By nat103:

Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger. See the thread discussing it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger. Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not. For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.


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Fuck yes. I actually bought 2 Aero lowers with the 3rd selector mark in anticipation of the Tac Con trigger. Reviews were lousy enough that I figured I'd wait until a real deal pops up on EE to grab one and try it.

If Geissele made one, I'd buy two. Tell him I want to know where to pre order.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:05:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?
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Then you build one. Be sure to make a thread on it too.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:07:37 PM EDT
If geissele made it and it's as good as their other stuff, I'd gladly pay $500. They'd have to make it work with a battle arms safety though.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:08:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:10:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 46and2:

And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!
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Originally Posted By 46and2:
Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?

And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!

And about $20 in equipment...
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:11:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hi-PointHero:
Not at $500. $300 maybe.


Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:11:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sagmill:


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish
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Originally Posted By sagmill:
Originally Posted By dillehayd:
Originally Posted By nat103:

Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger. See the thread discussing it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger. Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not. For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.




Fuck yes. I actually bought 2 Aero lowers with the 3rd selector mark in anticipation of the Tac Con trigger. Reviews were lousy enough that I figured I'd wait until a real deal pops up on EE to grab one and try it.

If Geissele made one, I'd buy two. Tell him I want to know where to pre order.


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish

Do it G. DO IT!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:11:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sagmill:


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish
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Originally Posted By sagmill:
Originally Posted By dillehayd:
Originally Posted By nat103:

Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger. See the thread discussing it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger. Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not. For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.




Fuck yes. I actually bought 2 Aero lowers with the 3rd selector mark in anticipation of the Tac Con trigger. Reviews were lousy enough that I figured I'd wait until a real deal pops up on EE to grab one and try it.

If Geissele made one, I'd buy two. Tell him I want to know where to pre order.


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish


$325 for one of your triggers that has built in bump fire functionality and uses all 3 selector switch positions?? As long as it works like a SSA-E or SD3G in true semi mode and can handle hard primers, that is basically my dream trigger. $325 is a damned bargain.

Sign me up for two. Right now. Take my money.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:14:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:

And about $20 in equipment...
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By 46and2:
Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?

And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!

And about $20 in equipment...


I understand the costs other than materials are the reason why it is so expensive. I just cant justify paying $500 for a piece of metal with springs, that's all. $100 sure. $500 ... absolutely not.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:16:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dillehayd:
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I'll race you to preorder them.

Hell, for <$350 I'd standardize all of my guns on them. Geissele sweetness on semi, shit eating grin fun on pseudo-full. All the joy of a slide fire without the hideous stock.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:16:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sagmill:

Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish
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OK, I'm in.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:16:29 PM EDT
Well if it works LIKE the tac-con . . . . . . . .

Several tests I've seen you can shoot faster & consistently faster with several other triggers, at about half the price.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:17:03 PM EDT
It would be something I'd wish I had a spare $500 for. It's an intriguing idea, and he's the right guy to do it.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:17:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By toothandnail:
Well if it works LIKE the tac-con . . . . . . . .

Several tests I've seen you can shoot faster & consistently faster with several other triggers, at about half the price.
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And I bet those companies had similar equipment, engineering and R&D costs... But they don't cost $500.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:18:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
Hell no. Fancy triggers are for sissies.
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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:19:35 PM EDT
Send me one for evaluation please.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:22:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sagmill:


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish
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Originally Posted By sagmill:
Originally Posted By dillehayd:
Originally Posted By nat103:

Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger. See the thread discussing it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger. Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not. For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.




Fuck yes. I actually bought 2 Aero lowers with the 3rd selector mark in anticipation of the Tac Con trigger. Reviews were lousy enough that I figured I'd wait until a real deal pops up on EE to grab one and try it.

If Geissele made one, I'd buy two. Tell him I want to know where to pre order.


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated. No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low. More like $325ish


I personally would like the semi mode to be a more precision oriented setting so 2 stage SSA-E like, then the third position be a single stage for faster shooting.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:24:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:24:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bruins:


I understand the costs other than materials are the reason why it is so expensive. I just cant justify paying $500 for a piece of metal with springs, that's all. $100 sure. $500 ... absolutely not.
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By 46and2:
Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?

And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!

And about $20 in equipment...


I understand the costs other than materials are the reason why it is so expensive. I just cant justify paying $500 for a piece of metal with springs, that's all. $100 sure. $500 ... absolutely not.

Looks like your out then.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:28:39 PM EDT
In a heart beat.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:29:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mak0:
SSA/S3G two-in-one combo unit?

You bet your ass I would buy that!
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Yes to this! Make them super dynamic and we're golden.
Daniel
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:30:07 PM EDT
SSA and switch to S3G I'm in!

I also have made a similar thread about this in the Geissele industry forum. I seen the tac-con was what seems to be a failure. So I was hoping that maybe Geissele would produce something that functions properly. It would be a basic necessity in all my rifles.

Please, please do it. I think it would become a big seller. Some of those who say not interested would change their minds after seeing demonstrations.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:31:08 PM EDT
With the flat bow please
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:32:00 PM EDT
Yes and make an SD version!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:34:43 PM EDT


$31,000.00 worth of triggers would have sold in the last 40 minutes...imagine if they were cheaper than $500 and over time...




Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:35:09 PM EDT
SSA-E and an S3G with a flick of the safety? Yeah I would do that at 325.00 in a heart beat
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:35:29 PM EDT
We could all skip arm and arm at the shooting range with our new triggers to Mary Hopkin.

Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:39:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bruins:
Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?
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It's not the cost of materials, it's the cost of the genius to design it.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:39:36 PM EDT
I would buy either an SSA/SD3G or an SSA/bump fire simulator. I'd sell an upper if I had to, that would be on its way ASAP. Please make that.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:41:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hi-PointHero:
Not at $500. $300 maybe.



Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:41:43 PM EDT
Do it G! I'd definitely be in for a few.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:45:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mak0:
SSA/S3G two-in-one combo unit?

You bet your ass I would buy that!
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This!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:45:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mak0:
SSA/S3G two-in-one combo unit?

You bet your ass I would buy that!
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This!
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:46:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:

I personally would like the semi mode to be a more precision oriented setting so 2 stage SSA-E like, then the third position be a single stage for faster shooting.
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Make it like this and I'm down for 2.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:47:34 PM EDT
after what they did for a member and his family here? yes. yes i would.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:50:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
Hell no. Fancy triggers are for sissies.
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This. Only reason you'd need a really high end trigger is for precision work at distance. You don't particularly notice the grit and grind when you're putting pairs in center mass at fifteen yards, especially not if you're wearing gloves. Those $300 triggers may feel nice, might even shrink your groups by a quarter inch at a hundred yards, but that's over half the price of an Aimpoint. No, thank you.

I prefer the thousand-round trigger job, myself. Nice, smooth and predictable.
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