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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:51:49 PM EST
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This. Only reason you'd need a really high end trigger is for precision work at distance. You don't particularly notice the grit and grind when you're putting pairs in center mass at fifteen yards, especially not if you're wearing gloves. Those $300 triggers may feel nice, might even shrink your groups by a quarter inch at a hundred yards, but that's over half the price of an Aimpoint. No, thank you.

I prefer the thousand-round trigger job, myself. Nice, smooth and predictable.
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Hell no. Fancy triggers are for sissies.


This. Only reason you'd need a really high end trigger is for precision work at distance. You don't particularly notice the grit and grind when you're putting pairs in center mass at fifteen yards, especially not if you're wearing gloves. Those $300 triggers may feel nice, might even shrink your groups by a quarter inch at a hundred yards, but that's over half the price of an Aimpoint. No, thank you.

I prefer the thousand-round trigger job, myself. Nice, smooth and predictable.



How much does a case of ammo cost these days?  

Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:53:06 PM EST
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No honest man needs a trigger like that.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 7:54:22 PM EST
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I could definitely go for a SD-C/SD-3G selectable trigger.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:01:31 PM EST
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Would buy.

Probably more than one.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:02:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:04:57 PM EST
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Not at $500.  $300 maybe.
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Might go as high as $350 but $500? Really?
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:05:56 PM EST
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Fuck yes, for $300ish.   I'm a sissy for $500
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:06:54 PM EST
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No.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:08:10 PM EST
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Times ten
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:11:15 PM EST
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Tag. In for my free trigger when it hits the market, since it was my idea.


BTW...I just built a new rifle using an SSA-E and love the trigger. The MK4 rail is very nice too! I am digging this rifle, alot.

Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:12:55 PM EST
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I could definitely go for a SD-C/SD-3G selectable trigger.




On second thought I've reconsidered this as it would cost me thousands to replace the SD-Cs that I currently have.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:13:29 PM EST
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Why do these threads pop up AFTER I already bought the current product?




Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:15:19 PM EST
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I'd be in for a couple.
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Hell no. Fancy triggers are for sissies.


This. Only reason you'd need a really high end trigger is for precision work at distance. You don't particularly notice the grit and grind when you're putting pairs in center mass at fifteen yards, especially not if you're wearing gloves. Those $300 triggers may feel nice, might even shrink your groups by a quarter inch at a hundred yards, but that's over half the price of an Aimpoint. No, thank you.

I prefer the thousand-round trigger job, myself. Nice, smooth and predictable.



How much does a case of ammo cost these days?  



My LMT trigger(s) were bad at the beginning, and bad 2+ cases of ammo later. I was once a "why spend the $" guy. Then I realized that life is short, and I'd be happier putting fewer rounds downrange with a nicer trigger instead of waiting for some magical event that never happened. My groups in a carbine class shrank so dramatically after a trigger swap that multiple people asked what happened overnight to make me such a better shot.

Would I buy the trigger described? Probably. It would go nicely with my SSAs, SSF, and S3G.

Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:24:25 PM EST
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after what they did for a member and his family here?  yes.  yes i would.
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Thread?

I already think Geissele is a great company. Curious for details on this.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:24:58 PM EST
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for all the full auto I did with my M16A2 ..  it was a waste of ammo and one dirty weapon afterwards .  
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No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.
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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:28:12 PM EST
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SSA/S3G two-in-one combo unit?

You bet your ass I would buy that!
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Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:41:41 PM EST
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I would want one for my my SR762....   Position 1 should be a standard weight... position 2 should be a light trigger...  I want that for when I go long distance shooting...  Sorta like a set trigger of old days to minimize rifle shake...
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:43:08 PM EST
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This. I would buy one for every AR I own. Does Geiselle finance??
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This. I would buy one for every AR I own. Does Geiselle finance??
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This. I would buy one for every AR I own. Does Geiselle finance??

I need layaway.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 8:57:33 PM EST
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I'd rather he build a 2 stage Rem 700 trigger.
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Yes, that first.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:05:35 PM EST
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol



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You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.

 
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:10:43 PM EST
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No.  I have no use for gimmicks.
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At least 4.



Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:11:51 PM EST
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:13:53 PM EST
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i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10


Yeah, you'd fuck it up.

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i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them

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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol



is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  


i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them

but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable

or maybe chinese company can make it for $10
You make, I buy.. I raff you cwy.

 
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i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10




You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.
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Yeah, you'd fuck it up.

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is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10


Yeah, you'd fuck it up.


so? cost maybe a few bucks in material
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:16:30 PM EST
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i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10



You go ahead and try to run CNC machines and EDM machines for $10. As well as using quality materials.

Good luck.
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Not at $500.  $300 maybe.


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Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated.  No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low.  More like $325ish
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Some people have asked Bill Geissele about the possibility of engineering a trigger similar to the TacCon trigger, i.e. selectable where semi would be a two stage like the SSA and auto would be a very light single stage like the 3 gun trigger.  See the thread discussing it here:  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_444/243034_Question_for_Geissele___This_trigger_design_would_be_awesome.html

Mr Geissele has questioned if there would even be a market for such a trigger.  Please vote "Yes" if you would buy and "No" if you would not.  For the sake of discussion assume the trigger would cost approximately $500.




Fuck yes.  I actually bought 2 Aero lowers with the 3rd selector mark in anticipation of the Tac Con trigger.  Reviews were lousy enough that I figured I'd wait until a real deal pops up on EE to grab one and try it.

If Geissele made one, I'd buy two.  Tell  him I want to know where to pre order.


Would you buy one if its 2 stage/1 stage or like the TacCon?

BTW-the $500 is out unless the trigger was way, way complicated.  No way I can see it being that much unless volumes are really low.  More like $325ish

SDE and sd3g. $325 done tell me when to send the check. I'll take 2 err... Maybe 1 this month and 1 next. Easier to hide from the accountant.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:16:58 PM EST
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so? cost maybe a few bucks in material
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10


Yeah, you'd fuck it up.


so? cost maybe a few bucks in material


So?

It'd be about as close to the actual thing as a Fiero is to a Ferrari.

But hey, if it weren't for ignorance then  GD would be far less amusing, so carry on...


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is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10


Yeah, you'd fuck it up.


so? cost maybe a few bucks in material


A few bucks in materials, a few hundred grand in tools and R&D.
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:19:04 PM EST
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You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol

is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10




You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.

seriously i respect IP, i think the original company that comes up with this idea should patent it, or can charge high price for it, it's their invention, but for any other company that just copy the idea and still charge so much money, no excuse or respect for that
Link Posted: 4/8/2014 9:19:51 PM EST
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We have allowed troll to take thread totally off track. Let him build one for himself, the rest of us can waste our money on a Geiselle trigger.
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seriously i respect IP, i think the original company that comes up with this idea should patent it, or can charge high price for it, it's their invention, but for any other company that just copy the idea and still charge so much money, no excuse or respect for that
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$500 for a trigger? i can buy a laptop, an DSLR with lens with that much money, they have the balls to think a few pieces of metal will cost that much lol



is there a patent for that? if not, folks lets DIY
You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  


i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them

but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable

or maybe chinese company can make it for $10








You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.


seriously i respect IP, i think the original company that comes up with this idea should patent it, or can charge high price for it, it's their invention, but for any other company that just copy the idea and still charge so much money, no excuse or respect for that
You mean like you were proposing a couple of posts back?

 
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You're delusional if you think you can make your own in your little harbor freight workshop. Also if you read, Geissele said $325.  

i know i can't DIY laptop or DSLR, there are just too many chips and too much technology in them
but 3 simple pieces of metal made of steel (not gold, mind you)? surely doable
or maybe chinese company can make it for $10




You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.

seriously i respect IP, i think the original company that comes up with this idea should patent it, or can charge high price for it, it's their invention, but for any other company that just copy the idea and still charge so much money, no excuse or respect for that
You mean like you were proposing a couple of posts back?  

did i say i want to make it and charge $500?

if chinese company makes it, at least they only charge minimum money, so add value to the consumers
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You cannot DIY a Geissele trigger. If you can, you are working in the wrong industry and should be a professional machinist and gunsmith.





seriously i respect IP, i think the original company that comes up with this idea should patent it, or can charge high price for it, it's their invention, but for any other company that just copy the idea and still charge so much money, no excuse or respect for that
You mean like you were proposing a couple of posts back?  





did i say i want to make it and charge $500?
Who said they would make it and charge $500? Carefully answer, which will require you to read a 2 page thread. Which will be a good thing.

 
 

 
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This. And with the quality of his current triggers, I'd have no need for it at all. Waste of time and money.
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I'm with you on the first part,  but I disagree with the second. One does not "waste" money on a Geiselle trigger.
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We have allowed troll to take thread totally off track. Let him build one for himself, the rest of us can waste our money on a Geiselle trigger.




I'm with you on the first part,  but I disagree with the second. One does not "waste" money on a Geiselle trigger.
Of course you know I was being facetious.

 
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This. And with the quality of his current triggers, I'd have no need for it at all. Waste of time and money.
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No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.


This. And with the quality of his current triggers, I'd have no need for it at all. Waste of time and money.
I want suppressive fire for the masses, damnit!

 
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Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?
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...and untold hundreds of hours in development not to include machining cost.
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No. Full auto and anything simulating full auto is more of a novelty than actually something being useful to me. Hell no for $500.

This. And with the quality of his current triggers, I'd have no need for it at all. Waste of time and money.
I want suppressive fire for the masses, damnit!  

Me too. But if Bill is going to work on new triggers, I'd want one cheap enough to go into my production rifles.
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Nope, not for $500. Maybe for $300, maybe...
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The man himself said $325. He posted in the thread. It's on the first page about 20 posts or so in.

 
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And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!
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Yes but not for $500. It's a tiny piece of metal with springs... there's no reason it should cost that much. It's what... MAYBE $20 in materials?


And maybe another $20 in R&D and engineering. Pfft!
Don't forget tight tolerances and the machines capable of holding them

 
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